Get him here and you have your next HC on staff.
Period!
I’m sure Bucs want him; it’s a matter of if he wants us
He has a second interview with the Browns
@pewter-pirate if he does it just goes to show that he’s full of it when it was said that he’d rather a good OC situation than a poor HC situation. Hope he ends up here
He's not coming here...smdh...loser franchise...Brady's stink is long gone...back to the yucs...smdh...you people are dreamers.
The front office is garbage. A true GM would have told the Glazers to keep Coen and fire Todd. But we have Jason 45% loser after 12 freaking years...12 years of losing.
This site is worst than JBF...dreamers and losers. Brady is gone. No one here at OBP is responsible for winning that SB. The sooner you get that the sooner we can move on from these losers.
He's not coming here...smdh...loser franchise...Brady's stink is long gone...back to the yucs...smdh...you people are dreamers.
The front office is garbage. A true GM would have told the Glazers to keep Coen and fire Todd. But we have Jason 45% loser after 12 freaking years...12 years of losing.
This site is worst than JBF...dreamers and losers. Brady is gone. No one here at OBP is responsible for winning that SB. The sooner you get that the sooner we can move on from these losers.
love how you think it's Licht keeping Bowles around and not the Glazers.
they probably both like him but ultimately the Glazers are being loyal to Todd
and also, those suggesting to fire Bowles at the time for Coen; you dont see many teams do that. Otherwise, why do you see all these "top coordinators" jump ship to get new jobs. The Bucs were in a difficult spot as Todd Bowles said, "he won 3 division titles."
I ultimately don't fault Licht or the Glazers for that Coen situation as that wasn't living in the real world. What i do fault them for is that premature extension last summer which ultimately caused this cheap ownership to keep Bowles another year, most likely a sunk year and the end of Baker's Tampa career if we dont get a top notch OC.
I ultimately don't fault Licht or the Glazers for that Coen situation as that wasn't living in the real world.
Disagree.
Absolutely blame the Glazers for not doing the obvious. They opted to play chicken and lost.
Some of us said we’d regret it for years, and it’s already playing out that way.
I ultimately don't fault Licht or the Glazers for that Coen situation as that wasn't living in the real world.
Disagree.
Absolutely blame the Glazers for not doing the obvious. They opted to play chicken and lost.
Some of us said we’d regret it for years, and it’s already playing out that way.
it's always tough -
Falcons let Kyle Shanahan walk and kept Dan Quinn (made it to Super Bowl but why'd they get there?)
Redskins let Sean McVay walk and kept Jay Gruden
Lions just let Ben Johnson walk and kept too many hits to the head Dan Campbell
Redskins let Kevin O'Connol walk and kept Jay Gruden
Now grant it, Todd Bowles not a great coach and clearly replacing Coen with Grizzard was malpractice; but i would be interested to see if we actually had a qualified OC what the offense does?
and i always point to the point of future state outlook and why would top candidates want to head coach the Bucs.
the Bucs likely don't have a great reputation as it's a "what have you done for me lately" type approach
Firing Dungy after 20 years of disgrace, he made the franchise reputable
Firing Gruden late in the coaching period, the only coach at the time to bring you a Super bowl
Firing Lovie for his OC. Now grant it, Lovie's win percentage was anemic but still the thought of doing that twice in about a decade's time; firing the black head coach for the white boy OC; yikes, perception doesn't look graet
So now the story of Todd Bowles, recommended to you by SB winning head coach Bruce Arians, wins 3 division titles, 2 of which were after Tom Brady, and even wins a playoff game; the most success of a non Brady led team since the 2002 Tampa Bay Buccaneers! We have the worst franchise, winning % wise, in the league, and this guy ends up coaching the team to back to back playoff births post Tom Brady where we were suppose to go back to the YUCKS. Firing him and promoted Coen was the right choice, it just wasn't one i see many, if any teams, being able to make that decision.
Who would want to come here with that type of loyalty?
Now...they went overboard in which - holy hell, you can lose the locker room and fumble away a 6-2 start and still keep your job? Maybe they are thinking long picture and realize 2026 is a lost season and that they can get who they want in 2027, better reputation and all.
Firing him and promoted Coen was the right choice, it just wasn't one i see many, if any teams, being able to make that decision.
Correct. This is good fodder for message boards but there is next to no precedent for this to happen to a coach who had accomplished what Bowles had. Tampa (the Glazers) weren’t ever going to fire Bowles. So please stop with this narrative. It speaks to being naive and uninformed.
It's hard to understate how "message board" hindsight reality it is to say the Glazers should have fired Licht for Coen.
no one would say that about Coen if the Jags struggled (hindsight)
and just compare it to Lovie/Koetter, the actual Glazer experience. Lovie couldn't win, Bowles 3 time division champ when expectations were a rebuild etc
But, a message board is not often in the real world. The same posts saying the Glazers are to blame now were also so football team smart they thought Bowles would get fired in 2022, 2023, 2024
Will be interesting to see how rings change in Buffalo post-McDermott. Allen obviously a special talent but McDermott doesn't make him fumble a ball on a run where he should just be going down etc.
either way more good openings = bad news for Bucs