No way in hell this team is in a worse situation before Schiano than it is after him. Back then it was a young roster of quitters
huh? ;)
How many hundreds of times did we hear the phrase "this team has too much talent to have this record"?Somehow, it's all evaporated now.
Schiano has time travelling abilities that only idiots like Awitron can see.Schiano sucked ass as a coach, but he definitely left this team in better shape than he inherited it.
Someone did. And therein lies the reason he got fired. There's more talent than 4-12.
How many hundreds of times did we hear the phrase "this team has too much talent to have this record"?Somehow, it's all evaporated now.
When you lose multiple games in a season when you had a 95% or higher chance of winning those games at some point during them.. that phrase definitely applies.The Jets, first game with the Saints, Cardinals, and Seahawks were all inexcusable losses and I dont give a shit who the opponents were.
How many hundreds of times did we hear the phrase "this team has too much talent to have this record"?Somehow, it's all evaporated now.
When you lose multiple games in a season when you had a 95% or higher chance of winning those games at some point during them..
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How many hundreds of times did we hear the phrase "this team has too much talent to have this record"?Somehow, it's all evaporated now.
When you lose multiple games in a season when you had a 95% or higher chance of winning those games at some point during them..
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http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/the_bucs_have_lost_3_games_with_95_win_probability_in_the_last_5_minutes/14663909?story_article_yb_original_head_14663909 This was prior to the Seahawks game, you know, the one where they got up 21-0 in the 2nd quarter and then the Seahawks went on to set a record for biggest comeback win in their team's history.
Yup. That was some bad coaching that day.
You gotta be pretty fucking delusional to say Schiano ruined Freeman. First of all, Freeman was never a franchise QB. One good year doesn't make you a franchise QB. The thing that done Schiano in the end, was the offensive and defensive coordinators. I highly doubt he didn't have a hand in selecting them.
No way in hell this team is in a worse situation before Schiano than it is after him. Back then it was a young roster who was the victim of a lockout and no depth.This team is a punch line now, you guys are living in your own world if you think otherwise.
Yeah, that young roster was stocked: Kregg Lumpkin, Arrelious Benn, Preston Parker, Dezmon Briscoe, Sammie Stroughter, Tanard Jackson, Roy Miller, Elbert Mack, Myron Lewis, Ahmad Black . . . Am I forgetting anyone?Schiano sucked at the coaching part, but this is a much better, more talented team than when he arrived. Some good coaches and some good schemes and this team is ready to go. That wasn't true when Schiano got here.
hypothetical: Lovie Smith during his first Bucs press conference: "We need to get youngry"
Yea, Freeman screwed the team over pretty badly.
QFT.
Schiano ruined Freeman, the regression from the time he took over until the time Freeman was released was staggering. He alienated him and ruined his confidence.
How soon we forget 2009 and 2011. Just because Mike Williams and Kellen Winslow caught everything in their general area in 2010 doesn't make Josh worth a damn. Christ, get over it.
Yea, Freeman screwed the team over pretty badly.
QFT.
Schiano ruined Freeman, the regression from the time he took over until the time Freeman was released was staggering. He alienated him and ruined his confidence.
Uh, no.
Also, we've pretty much improved across the board since Raheem leftFreeman v Glennon: Edge GlennonBlount v Martin: PushLorig v Lorig: PushWilliams v Jackson: Edge JacksonWhoever v Williams: Edge WilliamsWinslow v Wright: Edge WinslowPenn v Penn: PushLarsen v Nicks: Edge NicksFaine v Zutah: Edge ZutahJoseph v Joseph: PushTrueblood v Dotson: Edge DotsonDefensively you saw McCoy improve from bust to superstar. Unfortunately we misplaced our trust in defensive ends. But Quincy Black and now the Watson/Casillas experience have shown great improvements under the Cox/Schiano teachins. Revis is an improvement from Talib. Banks is better than Biggers. Barron and Gholdson are better than Lynch and Grimm and whatever other crap we put back there.Seriously not sure how anyone could say we aren't a better team now than we were back then.
No way in hell this team is in a worse situation before Schiano than it is after him. Back then it was a young roster who was the victim of a lockout and no depth.This team is a punch line now, you guys are living in your own world if you think otherwise.
Do you remember how bad this defense was before Schiano? Do you remember last season being the best offense the Bucs have ever had?Lavonte David is the best player on our defense since Derrick Brooks in his prime, and McCoy credits him with turning him into a monsterHate him, dislike him, want him dead or whatever, its an unarguable FACT he left this team in better shape than after our horrible 10 game meltdown when we had no WR's, no CB's, no LB's, no pass rush at ALL, an inability to stop a pee wee team from running for 100 yards on us and huge overpaid under performing D bags like Kellen Winslow on the teamSchiano is gonna be to Lovie what Wyche was to Dungy.
No way in hell this team is in a worse situation before Schiano than it is after him. Back then it was a young roster who was the victim of a lockout and no depth.This team is a punch line now, you guys are living in your own world if you think otherwise.
Hate him, dislike him, want him dead or whatever, its an unarguable FACT he left this team in better shape than after our horrible 10 game meltdown when we had no WR's, no CB's, no LB's, no pass rush at ALL, an inability to stop a pee wee team from running for 100 yards on us and huge overpaid under performing D bags like Kellen Winslow on the team
10 game melt down without all that, yet this clown goes on losing streaks of 8 and 3 with what you all admit is a lot more.
