I'm not a big fan of the late first edge rusher. I know we're 15th so maybe some talent drops to us but I'd rather go FA.
If styles is there it's a no brainer... I'm good with guard as well.
Sadiq will be damn good and he is a willing blocker... But TE is a luxury we cannot afford
I have always tended to lean this direction. The draft is such a crap shoot and unless I have a generational player available either through trade of draft picks or in the draft, I would almost always go BPA.drafting guys who may not fit into the plans of the next coach who comes along.
all the more reason to lean into BPA
Sadiq will be damn good and he is a willing blocker... But TE is a luxury we cannot afford
Meh.
Would rather trade back a bit and take Ioane (or Pregnon) if we go offense early.
Sadiq will be damn good and he is a willing blocker... But TE is a luxury we cannot afford
Meh.
Would rather trade back a bit and take Ioane (or Pregnon) if we go offense early.
Pregnon is overrated dude. He'll go too early but I'd put him in the 45-60 range of picks. He's gonna go in the first. I love his frame but he just didn't have that dawg in him. Maybe with better coaching I guess.
Loane I know less about...
It all comes down to what Licht does in FA. Sadiq would fit well but if you go TE holy shit that means we are fucked on defense.
I thought we'd have a shot at Bailey but I'm seeing him mocked as high as 4
It all comes down to what Licht does in FA. Sadiq would fit well but if you go TE holy shit that means we are fucked on defense.
I thought we'd have a shot at Bailey but I'm seeing him mocked as high as 4
I'm just not as enamored with Sadiq as others (would love to be wrong).
Agreed on the take though. That being said, with Bowles at HC/DC, we'll always need to have a high-octane offense to carry us.
And yeah, almost every recent mock I've seen had Bailey well within the Top-10.
I agree iOL is a need
first round? Eh. Same with TE. If you get an all pro(obviously any position) sure worth it great pick.
generally speaking I’ll wait for iOL. Round 4-6. Early? Maybe I still have graham barton ptsd but pass. TE I will have OJ Howard ptsd for the rest of my life. Scarred.
It all comes down to what Licht does in FA. Sadiq would fit well but if you go TE holy shit that means we are fucked on defense.
I thought we'd have a shot at Bailey but I'm seeing him mocked as high as 4
I'm just not as enamored with Sadiq as others (would love to be wrong).
Agreed on the take though. That being said, with Bowles at HC/DC, we'll always need to have a high-octane offense to carry us.
And yeah, almost every recent mock I've seen had Bailey well within the Top-10.
Sadiq is as close to a sure fire star as it comes... His limitations are his arm length and his occasional yips. Dante Moore overthrew him constantly and Sadiq pulled them down.
I don't want to draft Sadiq tho but he's a true two-way TE... He's not a wr lite like Kyle Pitts.
Give me front 7 players or iOL. And just stack from the inside out. Pregnon would be awesome to trade up in the second if he is still there.
I agree iOL is a need
first round? Eh. Same with TE. If you get an all pro(obviously any position) sure worth it great pick.
generally speaking I’ll wait for iOL. Round 4-6. Early? Maybe I still have graham barton ptsd but pass. TE I will have OJ Howard ptsd for the rest of my life. Scarred.
Tbf Howard would have been a solid TE if he didn't rupture his achilles. He was never the same after that. He was playing well with Brady.
That said he didn't ever seem to be a great football player..incredible athlete but didn't have that dawg in him.
And tbf the same traits do sometimes come out in Sadiq having watched him.
I don't like drafting first round te's lb's safeties just due to the fact they arent worth as much as a top 5 corner or Dlineman. When building a superbowl roster for longevity the premier paid positions on a rookie contract are what gives you the superbowl window. When you have a guy that should be paid like a 30mil guy on a 4-8m a year contract it gives you extra room to sign a Suh, or AB.
If I'm drafting a TE there needs to be a plan to how you're gonna use him other than stockpiling talent, because when we drafted OJ he never really became a focal point of the offense we still ran the same 4 vert concept with deep curl digs outside the hash with our wr's. We didnt scheme much up for him, nothing like a heavy look to shift or motion out wide too get a matchup on a LB/S. Otton is like Higbee and he got paid 10 mil a year i think, but idk if we keep otton, Durham can do what is ask from him if we run a similar mcvay scheme running arrow flats with sprinkle in of crossers though i did some outside 1on1's like that fade ball to parkinson last game. Just use Godwin in the Nacua/Kupp role hes just as good as those guys
Styles I do like but same concept applies I rather go Rodriguez in the second.
Quick thoughts
Looked at some backs for day 3, 2 guys who come to mind as good compliments for a 3rd down back as they good amount of film catching out of the backfield and were involved in pass protecting so the concept wont be too new for them.
2 6'2 230+ backs, I prefer big backs as 3rd down backs just because circumference in size is harder to wrap, ability to float balls over lineman when throwing screens, bigger wingspan to catch over the middle, and wingspan to stiff arm, though i did really like monangai last year the 5'8 back from rutgers.
Mike washington from arkansas. 1.1k yards on 167 carries in the sec. Like his story came to Buffalo then NMST but got better every year with the rise in competition my favorite day3 back so far
and Adam Randall from Clemson 4 years got his chacne to start his sr year 800 yards and 36 receptions. Prefer Washington
I would not mind any of these 2 on day 3. Keep them on as #3 back and have a vet be the 3rd down back while they get acclimated
Favorite Dend in this Draft might be Gabe Jacas, he will fit in very well, can tell he is a smart player, already plays in a 3-4 so understand lb responsibilities former wrestler 6'3 275 he does what Bowles needs those edge guys to do and its to hold up in the run. I do like Cassius Howell very much as well the more quick twitchy edge rusher that the board likes. Im happy with either one of those guys. Jacas is "reach" atm but i think if he can really show out sr bowl he'll be worth it reminds me of Rashan gary without the hype and has the brain to contribute immediately
The mizzou guys dont entice me because they tend to come out raw and dont adjust to nfl very well from my history of looking at their lineman, very prototypical freaks but don't produce as much. I once had good thoughts about charles harris in 2017, but he had hard time struggling in miami, and I think Darius robinson is underperforming as well the 2024 6'5 285 d-end/tackle. In reference they have zion young 6'5 250 looks to raw for me as I kinda want a guy who can immediately contribute similar to Ez. Damon wilson the opposite end is transferring to miami
Of course I would love David Bailey and Bain but they likely arent gonna be there.
For whatever reason, I get the feeling Styles will be gone by the time we draft. He has top 10 type tape. I do hope I am wrong.
History would suggest it's tough to get a top Edge at 15. Of the top twenty, only two-Burns and Gary- were drafted in the late teens early 20s. THen you get to Sweat, Watt and Oweh at the end of the round. Of course it's different every year, but it would suggest that if you don't have a top 5 pick and you are waiting until the middle of the round you are really taking a flyer on somebody at that point. You have Parsons going 12th and Reddick (who was good once) at 13.While it's not popular, I think ILB and IOL are the biggest (most pressing) needs with this roster.
This. All. Day. This.
Most pressing needs are edge 1 and edge 2.
How does it apply to this year? I guess it's just don't go chasing based on need. That's an obvious lesson for any draft. Are there going to be any premium edge rushers dropping to 15? If not then you have to pick a different position. The other lesson as with every year- find enough free agents so you don't get caught on draft day in desperation mode. Easier said than done as we can see with Reddick and many other free agent signees of the past.
1. Myles Garrett Cleveland Browns 1 1st
2 T.J. Watt Pittsburgh Steelers 1 30th
3 Micah Parsons Green Bay Packers 1 12th
4 Nick Bosa San Francisco 49ers 1 2nd
5 Will Anderson Jr. Houston Texans 1 3rd
6 Aidan Hutchinson Detroit Lions 1 2nd
7 Maxx Crosby Las Vegas Raiders 4 106th
8 Danielle Hunter Houston Texans 3 88th
9 Trey Hendrickson Cincinnati Bengals 3 103rd
10 Brian Burns New York Giants 1 16th
11 Josh Allen Jacksonville Jaguars 1 7th
12 Haason Reddick New York Jets 1 13th
13 Montez Sweat Chicago Bears 1 26th
14 Rashan Gary Green Bay Packers 1 18th
15 Matthew Judon New England Patriots 5 159th
16 Demarcus Lawrence Seattle Seahawks 2 34th
17 Bryce Huff San Francisco 49ers Undrafted Undrafted
18 Matt Milano Buffalo Bills 5 163rd
19 Odafe Oweh Baltimore Ravens 1 31st
20 Josh Sweat Arizona Cardinals 4 130th
if you don't have a top 5 pick
part of the challenge of success
The Bucs haven't had a top 5 pick since Devin White and he was a bust after the SB
If you go back from there you Jameis Winston (another bust, but they were taking him no matter) and then right before that a HOFer in Evans.
So, except for the very fortunate pick of Wirfs (3rd or 4th Tackle?) at 13, the Bucs have not had a franchise-level impact guy drafted with a top 10 pick since 2014.
And still won a Super Bowl and numerous division championships.
So many way to win though. I think the Rams (could be wrong) haven't had a first round pick at all for 5 or 6 years, until Verse last season.
I might be in the minority, but I really feel that the draft is where you almost always take BPA or trade if there isn't a player that you could use. That said, TE is not a position of need but I would not pass on Sadiq at all if he's there at 15. I feel that would be a big mistake but I also know the mocks right now are going to drastically change between now and draft. I also agree with those who would rage if we ignored the holes on defense that are present especially if a top caliber player was available when the Bucs draft. For the record, I would love to see Bain as a Buccaneer. I love that guy's motor and he's a mean ass.....something this D-Line has been missing since Suh and before him, Sapp.
I might be in the minority, but I really feel that the draft is where you almost always take BPA
I think that is the prevailing view but not all were pleased with the Egbuka pick as one example and that was because of the need for players on D. So, I guess its a little in between. BPA definitely the aspiration
I might be in the minority, but I really feel that the draft is where you almost always take BPA or trade if there isn't a player that you could use. That said, TE is not a position of need but I would not pass on Sadiq at all if he's there at 15. I feel that would be a big mistake but I also know the mocks right now are going to drastically change between now and draft. I also agree with those who would rage if we ignored the holes on defense that are present especially if a top caliber player was available when the Bucs draft. For the record, I would love to see Bain as a Buccaneer. I love that guy's motor and he's a mean ass.....something this D-Line has been missing since Suh and before him, Sapp.
Bain would be amazing to have but he won't last past 7