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2014 NFL Mock Draft Review: Tampa Bay Buccaneers Add the Next Von Miller?By Leo Howell - Dec 17th, 2013 Von_Zpse95499F4.Jpg Apart from some local talk radio hosts, most Tampa Bay sports fans realize the incredible talent of Gerald McCoy. He’s disruptive and explosive, finding a way to get through the interior of an offensive line on nearly every play and chasing down opposing quarterbacks. But his impact is dulled by the lack of pass rush from the outside, as Adrian Clayborn, Daniel Te’o-Nesheim and Da’Quan Bowers have all struggled to generate pressure on opposing QBs this season. So McCoy has done his job, but there have been no defenders to stop quarterbacks (especially mobile quarterbacks) from escaping the pocket once McCoy breaks through to pursue the passer. So in the latest mock draft from our friend Peter Smith of With The First Pick, the Buccaneers take a player who has the potential to solve the Buccaneers’ pass rush problem for years to come, and give them a matchup nightmare to line up against a tackle or tight end and get after Drew Brees and Matt Ryan every season. Here’s the pick and analysis from Peter: •7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Anthony Barr, OLB UCLA •The Bucs’ season has been an out and out disaster up until they finally got their feet under them with Mike Glennon at quarterback.  The Bucs could still take a quarterback, but they find themselves out of position, so they opt to add more speed and versatility to their defense.  Barr is a phenomenal athlete and has terrific feet and quickness.  He is still developing and needs to work on playing much lower and getting more efficient with his instincts, but as a player that can play either end or outside linebacker and move around, he is a huge weapon for an already extremely talented defense. And here is Barr’s player comparison from Peter’s draft profile of the UCLA star: •Although Barr is rawer and has a lot to pick up before he gets to the NFL, his game is eerily reminiscent of Von Miller of the Denver Broncos.  Miller was an extremely polished player when he came out of Texas A&M but in terms of his ability to make plays in any phase of the game and especially when it comes to getting after the quarterback from a standup position is the way Barr works.  If Barr can round out his game, he may not quite go #2 in the draft like Miller did but he will not be waiting long. Obviously player comparisons are only a guess at what a player could become, but if the Buccaneers could add an impact pass rusher on the outside who has even 80 or 90 percent of the impact Miller does, it would cause so many problems for opposing defenses. How does a team stop Barr and McCoy on every single play? The selection would make both players better, and would see the Tampa Bay pass rush ascend to new heights. http://thepewterplank.com/2013/12/17/2014-nfl-mock-draft-review-tampa-bay-buccaneers-add-next-von-miller/

 
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To me he can have a Von Miller type impact on the field without the bullshit off the field because apparently he's a great kid.

 
Posted : Dec. 19, 2013 3:17 am
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No way!!!!!!For this team, I would not draft this guy anywhere in the first round.

 
Posted : Dec. 19, 2013 5:54 am
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Wow, no. He's not going to be even close to Von Miller.  Kalil Mack is closer than Barr is.

 
Posted : Dec. 19, 2013 9:01 am
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If we are picking past 5 and he is there...he sure as hell better be our selection.

 
Posted : Dec. 19, 2013 9:26 am
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or Sammy Watkins

 
Posted : Dec. 19, 2013 9:27 am
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I've said it on here before and seen other people say it on Twitter, but Barr has no physicality to his game. He gets his sacks by either running around offensive tackles or blitzing through the interior untouched. He rarely if ever tries to get his hands on a blocker and put a move on him. He's all finesse. We already have pass rushers in David and Watson who can fly the a hole if the coaches scheme something right. We need a player who down-in down-out can put his hands on an offensive tackle and make him wish he didn't.

 
Posted : Dec. 19, 2013 9:42 am
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I've said it on here before and seen other people say it on Twitter, but Barr has no physicality to his game. He gets his sacks by either running around offensive tackles or blitzing through the interior untouched. He rarely if ever tries to get his hands on a blocker and put a move on him. He's all finesse. We already have pass rushers in David and Watson who can fly the a hole if the coaches scheme something right. We need a player who down-in down-out can put his hands on an offensive tackle and make him wish he didn't.

FRG, would that put you in the "Draft Mack" camp?  Personally, I would be happy with either.  I just want some pass rush from the outside, could care less how.  He may not need much of a physical game in the Pac12 and be able to put up big numbers by speed alone.

 
Posted : Dec. 19, 2013 9:51 am
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I've said it on here before and seen other people say it on Twitter, but Barr has no physicality to his game. He gets his sacks by either running around offensive tackles or blitzing through the interior untouched. He rarely if ever tries to get his hands on a blocker and put a move on him. He's all finesse. We already have pass rushers in David and Watson who can fly the a hole if the coaches scheme something right. We need a player who down-in down-out can put his hands on an offensive tackle and make him wish he didn't.

FRG, would that put you in the "Draft Mack" camp?  Personally, I would be happy with either.  I just want some pass rush from the outside, could care less how.  He may not need much of a physical game in the Pac12 and be able to put up big numbers by speed alone.

I see a lot more physicality in Mack's game.

 
Posted : Dec. 19, 2013 10:36 am
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If Schiano is still here I don't see either being his type of DE. 

 
Posted : Dec. 19, 2013 10:49 am
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If Schiano is still here I don't see either being his type of DE.

They wouldn't be full time DEs here just like Von Miller is not a full time DE in Denver's 4-3.

 
Posted : Dec. 19, 2013 12:20 pm
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Barr is very versatile, but he's not the best with his hand on the ground/point of attack. That said, he can run with TE's and RB's and hold his own. He's still raw, with pad level work and added strength, he can very well be very good - he's by far one of the most disciplined DE/LB's out there. He's a RB convert, so his mean streak might play a role in his success in the NFL, that said, he did knock out Barkley at the end of last year.

 
Posted : Dec. 19, 2013 12:26 pm
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As a Bucs fan I want to find out.  ;D  Let's lose the last 2 games to insure a Top 5 selection and go get this kid. Barr, Foster and David would be an insane LB group for years to come. NFL offenses wouldn't like the Bucs defense if that happens.

 
Posted : Dec. 19, 2013 12:30 pm
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I like barr, but to say getting rid if schiano and the obsessive stunt disorder wouldn't help the passrush is silly.He has the de's running around erratically and not directly attacking the qb. He's that worried about being run on, that he forgets that the qb can kill too.

 
Posted : Dec. 19, 2013 12:31 pm
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I don't know what the answer is

 
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