Not a fan of Gainwell if his just a third down specialist for pass pro. But if he is used on KR that helps somewhat justify his cost with new ST coach. But it still doesn't make sense given he isn't going to catch 70+ targets with this Bucs WR group and Irving healthy. He will be lucky to catch 25-30.
Is Gainwell that much better than White or Tucker?
Tucker isnt comparable. White is the comparison, the receiving/pass pro RB
Their run stats are about the same but Gainwell has a better average.
Last season White had 40 reception for about 220 yds so 5.5 average. His long reception was 18 yards and he had 0 receiving TDs.
Gainwell had 73 receptions for almost 500 yards (6.7 average) and a long reception of 45 yards and 3 receiving TDs
So maybe the best argument against Gainwell is the contract amount given the Bucs need cap space BUT I think Allgeiers signed for $6 per?
I guess we will all see.
Gainwell is a return specialist too but Tucker is a return specialist and bigger for the fraction of the cost. Gainwell is too similar to Bucky IMO which is why the Bucs needed a compliment to Bucky. Gainwell is here to protect Mayfield from being blasted with his shoulders being an issue IMO but it is an overpay.
Irving had something more than just an injury last season so maybe the are also concerned about him
Gainwell is a return specialist too but Tucker is a return specialist and bigger for the fraction of the cost. Gainwell is too similar to Bucky IMO which is why the Bucs needed a compliment to Bucky. Gainwell is here to protect Mayfield from being blasted with his shoulders being an issue IMO but it is an overpay.
Just because Tucker returned kicks last year doesn't make him a specialist. he was nothing special as both a RB and KR. Gainwell is the better player and its not that close.
Still doesn't justify paying him $7 mil per year.
Otton is a #2 TE. He's getting a contract worthy of a #2 TE. If we had Gronk on the team nobody would be complaining about Otton. It's not his fault the Bucs have not invested in the TE position. My opinion is open to change based on the numbers, but I'm guessing he's getting $12 mil or so per year.Dallas Goedert or David Njoku would have been upgrades.
and probably cheaper too
with Otton, it depends what he got, but if it was like 3 years, 30M or more...ehhh...i dont see what they see in the guy
I don't thik Otton is as bad as most here, but I hope to God Licht didn't pay him more than Goedert or Njoku. That would be foolish.
I don't like the Gainwell signing. That's a lot for a backup RB - a position that is easily replaceable.
Anzalone is a solid signing. He's on the wrong side of Father Time, but he's still at least a respectable MLB - something this team hasn't had for a long fuggin' time.
Gainwell is a versatile veteran. He's still got some gas in the tank.
Love the Anzalone pickup because he's been mentioned in multiple battle plans. We can't expect draft picks to solve the ILB problem. Hopefully we're not done signing free agents at LB or OLB.
Otton is a #2 TE. He's getting a contract worthy of a #2 TE. If we had Gronk on the team nobody would be complaining about Otton. It's not his fault the Bucs have not invested in the TE position. My opinion is open to change based on the numbers, but I'm guessing he's getting $12 mil or so per year.Dallas Goedert or David Njoku would have been upgrades.
and probably cheaper too
with Otton, it depends what he got, but if it was like 3 years, 30M or more...ehhh...i dont see what they see in the guy
I don't thik Otton is as bad as most here, but I hope to God Licht didn't pay him more than Goedert or Njoku. That would be foolish.
I don't like the Gainwell signing. That's a lot for a backup RB - a position that is easily replaceable.
Anzalone is a solid signing. He's on the wrong side of Father Time, but he's still at least a respectable MLB - something this team hasn't had for a long fuggin' time.
Well if the details are true he is being paid as a mid pack #1 TE for $10 mil per year. Still think Otton is overpaid too with KG because Otton is a borderline 1 and a clear #2 TE. But overpaying for a #2 TE when you have holes on defense and no true X WR or a chance to upgrade LG doesn't make sense.