Is the Glazer Family the Biggest Problem With the Tampa Bay Buccaneers’ Franchise?By Leo Howell - Dec 27th, 2013 at 5:44 pmJanuary 27, 2012; Tampa, FL, USA; Tampa Bay Buccaneers owner Joel Glazer speaks to the media about the hiring of head coach Greg Schiano during a press conference at One Buc Place. Kim Klement-USA TODAY Sports When the Tampa Bay Buccaneers were 0-8, it seemed like Greg Schiano’s fate was already sealed. Considering that his team had only won one of its previous 14 games, and was the subject of multiple scandals and negative stories in the national media, there was seemingly no hope that the former Rutgers head coach would lead the Bucs for another season. Fast forward just a month later, and a quartet of wins over similar struggling teams (the bullied Dolphins, awful Falcons, imploding Lions and young and learning Bills) have Schiano seemingly safe, with the national media convinced that the head coach will return with his newfound quarterback, Mike Glennon. But where does Schiano truly stand? Peter King of MMQB has chimed in on Twitter and elsewhere saying that he thinks Schiano will be safe, but no other media members seem to have a grasp on what the Glazer family plans to do. On Friday, former Buc Booger McFarland (who is a radio host in the area) tweeted a bit of information he gathered from Pewter Report’s Scott Reynolds during his afternoon show, and it may reveal the problem with the Buccaneers’ franchise. Booger @lsubooger wow Scott Reynolds just said that if Schiano gets blowed out sunday hes probably gone What the hell does sunday have to do with anything?1:35 PM - 27 Dec 2013 Let’s address the three biggest problems with the idea of only firing Schiano if the Buccaneers are blown out: •Why is any loss something worth being rewarded for? That only breeds a culture of acceptable losing. •Why have two whole years boiled down to one game’s final result? 5-11 with this roster is still not acceptable. •What dictates a blowout? How much does he have to lose by? What is the topping point? But it’s really the first bullet point that causes the most concern. Are these the same Glazers who fired Tony Dungy and Jon Gruden? Are these the same Glazers who fired Raheem Morris? Have they caved in to an authoritarian coach and believe in his baseless press conference quotes so much to believe that being competitive against the New Orleans Saints to end a double-digit loss season is enough to say “I can win a Super Bowl with this team?”
Dec 22, 2013; St. Louis, MO, USA; Tampa Bay Buccaneers head coach Greg Schiano watches as his team warms up prior to a game against the St. Louis Rams at the Edward Jones Dome. Scott Kane-USA TODAY SportsThe Buccaneers came within minutes of defeating the Saints earlier this season, shutting down the New Orleans offense and surrendering a late game-winning drive to lose in heartbreaking fashion. What makes a non-blowout loss to them later in the season a job-saving accomplishment? The Glazer Family must fire Greg Schiano if they believe he hasn’t done a good job over his first two seasons. Schiano has received improved talent during his time in Tampa Bay, and has turned it into a less impressive record during his second season in charge. The thought of losing 30-17 to the Saints being good enough to save his job goes against the standards the Glazers set by firing Tony Dungy and Jon Gruden. The objective of a head coach in the NFL is to win games, and eventually bring a Super Bowl trophy to the fans of the team. Greg Schiano has shown no signs of doing that in Tampa Bay. Keeping a game close against the Saints won’t change that. He should be fired, or he should be kept. But not based on the point differential in a final game of the season. His future must be evaluated based on the likelihood of bringing a Super Bowl to Tampa Bay. He has the talent to win plenty of games in the NFL, and he has failed to do so. The results speak for themselves. But if reports are true, the Glazers don’t care about results. They care about “competitiveness” and “not losing the locker room.” Which will lead the Buccaneers to years of participation ribbons and disappointments rather than competitive games in January and tense championship runs. Firing Greg Schiano would send a strong statement: “Losing is unacceptable.” Keeping Greg Schiano because he lost a “close game” to the Saints does the opposite: “Losing is okay, as long as it’s close, and against a good team. We have a rookie QB, ya know?” And based on the previous decisions the Glazers have made, that would be an incredible disappointment, and would likely set the franchise back another year in its pursuit of a second NFL championship. http://thepewterplank.com/2013/12/27/glazer-family-biggest-problem-tampa-bay-buccaneers-franchise/
no, they are not our biggest problem!
Our biggest problem is a gm who doesnt understand how to piece a complete and cohesive team together.
The 'on the bubble' concept is too difficult for my brain to understand!
Ask someone to explain it to you.
Yo does booger or pr talk to the glazers? I think there guess is as good as mine or yoursj at this point. And he'll yeah the glazer boys be a problem here.
Said this months ago.......when you start with Chip Kelly and end up with Greg Schiano, it's apparent you don't have any criteria that you're targetting...unless you're just looking for a college coach to take the job.I hear traffic is bad in LA....
Yo does booger or pr talk to the glazers? I think there guess is as good as mine or yoursj at this point. And he'll yeah the glazer boys be a problem here.
I always thought mushmouth was a fictional character. Shouldn't you be a Philly fan?
The title doesn't seem to match the article. Was expecting more of a dissection of the Glazers recent choices and ended up with a "must fire Schiano" and "the last game shouldn't matter" rant.
Well it does say Leo Howell at the top, so you had fair warning. "Lovey, was that Gilligan I saw sneaking out the back of our hut?" - Thurston Howell III, nine months before the miraculous birth of Leo
The Glazers are absolutely the cause.Let's say in 7 years you spend least in league, while hiring inexperienced hc and gm, while fielding one of the worst rosters in the league, and then firing the first inexperienced hc to only hire another one?! HahaThe stench starts at the head. There is nothing confusing about it folks. Open your damn eyes
Yea, I think the Glazer sons are the main problem in Tampa.Like I said in another thread, if Schiano comes back, I won't be purchasing any merchandise or attending any Bucs home games until the Glazer sons sell the team.
Take 30 or so minutes to be informed: Here is a discussion with Chris Landry, who certainly is qualified to speak on NFL matters. Listen to that and tell me what the problem is.. http://www.620wdae.com/media/podcast-steve-duemig-podcast-steveduemig_01/chris-landry-with-tkras-122713-24127623/
I posted this in September.....Total fan here. Honest post. Around last in league, we are about where we should be. Losing, what if's and what could have been, and I'm tired of it. Have we developed a culture of losing? Defending the losing, rather than insisting on quality..Being winners?!This org got what it deserved, unfortunately at the cost of people's careers and lots of aggravating Sundays. If to you it is a big mystery that we haven't produced consistent success over the last 10 years, maybe you take a different look at the situation. As an organization, there has been around the leagues lowest level of financial support from the Glazers. Go ahead and look it up. I really hope you do. Raheem Morris and Dominik were both infants to their newly acquired positions. Home run hires?Their assistants were not. The drafts don't look so hot now either. Quick! Except for Michael Bennett( sigh), Someone name a coach or player that has been here, and gone on to do decent. Did we draft bad players, not develop them properly? Both, I'd guess. Welcome to Tampa where the standard is Superbowls!! huh? After firing Morris, we took months to find a coach, with the general impression around the league being that this was not the most desirable destination as a coach. -The proven coaches, at least. When we went to hire Chip, he backed out(not crying over Chip at all). Wonder why? We eventually found Schiano, and then it took ages to sign the assistants. -One small detail, the Bucs once again did not compete and were unwilling to offer assistants guaranteed contracts. Say what you will, but this is not league standard. Does little to attract quality coaches that might provide stability. These are limiting factors. Even today, when it seems like the Glazers have awoken from a long and negligent/PROFITABLE nap with several large fa signings, we have a LONG way to go. Unfortunately the new cba had no requirements for spending on coaches. The only positive response by Glazers in last 8 years has been when they are required to. What's sad for us and the players that have recently been drafted here, is that they could provide the team with competitive coaching and administration and still profit, but CHOOSE not to. They continue the charade as if they care about winning, care about the fans, talk about excellence, while they let coaches and players fall on the sword for them. When is enough, enough?If you want to truly feel like you have some perspective on things, if you want to understand nfl football and why we continue to suck at it, take a moment look at the entire operation. Example: If you own a shop and are competing with 31 other shops, and hire inexperienced and inexpensive staff, should you really expect to be competitive?Fan support is on and off life support. Selling tickets have been an issue in a market that once boasted a "100,000 person waiting list, no playoff wins since '02, a revolving door of undesirable coordinators (won't guarantee contracts), no fa activity to help team and then bulky contracts overpaying fa's to come here, etc etc etc etc. These are facts. We could make a much longer list.This organization is right around 30-32 in terms of quality within the NFL. In this light, it's hard not to feel for the coaches and whoever else who tried so hard, just to realize that their is a glass ceiling, and an almost certainty that the other franchises around the league are clearly out gunning our effort. Do you think it is a mystery to Buc exec's? I do not. In the very-competitive NFl, losing is the likely outcome to the low probability (uncompetitive financial commitment) course our org has taken. The Glazers own two of the most valuable sports franchises in the world, making tons of money. I'll go out on a limb and guess that their cpa's and attorneys are the best that money can buy. It's pretty ridiculous to think with the success that their family has, that they would not realize hiring inexperienced supporting staff doesn't typically lead to good results. -I bet the accountants for the Bucs are top notch!Some fans might not know better, but I assure you that They do!I'd guess that local journalists are well aware of the constraints set upon this organization by ownership, but have a lot to lose by honestly criticizing such influential people. Somewhere in between integrity, politics, and covering their asses, the truth gets blurred. The Players and coaches are in a tough spot here. Their reputations on the line, and the ownership has other priorities. Same old same old.Sundays in Tampa are rough. There are more tears in my mug than beer. We have invested our time and emotions. We have voluntarily or involuntarily invested over one hundred million tax payer dollars into the stadium. A profiteering place that we all built for them. I feel bad for the players, the coaches, and the fans. One last note.., On Schiano staying /going:I think Schiano and most coaches are over their skis, maybe not ready to coach with a barebones approach. What is a serious concern: Recent history suggests if we fire Schiano and whoever else, we will hire another set of inexperienced coaches and put it all on them again. https://www.pewterreport.com/Boards/index.php/topic,1309201.0.html?PHPSESSID=7mf39v87h2sbuuhsbn5bnn24q4 I have been posting about it for years. Lol. Maybe one day people will wake up!
Glazers are the problem.
The only way we can send a message is by not supporting the team. People need to stop going to home games and stop buying merchandise. If fans don't show and support the team and the Glazers don't make money, they'll sell because they're only in this for the money. We've just go to hope they sell to someone who gives a damn about the team.Screw you Glazers.