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Posted by: @ehinote

@bucsbits have you heard every coach talk about the guys they’ve just drafted? They all say they got the guy they wanted. They have to be all in. We will see how it works out. I mocked him to the Bucs in the 4th in one of my drafts. And obviously I did it because I hoped he’d turn into something for us.

 

Yes, I get your point.  I am not saying anything other than he was 100% Bowles pick and ylu have Devin White in the Bowles tenure as an obvious parallel.

 


 
Posted : May. 20, 2026 7:07 am
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If we think we have the developers and scheme to achieve his full potential then we picked the right guy.

Todd did a bang up job of developing Devin White. 

I feel extremely confident. 

 

White was not developable, so there is that.

 

Name the players that Todd has developed.

 

 

Well, I guess that means you agree that White was not developable for his own INTERNAL reason? 

 


 
Posted : May. 20, 2026 7:08 am
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If we think we have the developers and scheme to achieve his full potential then we picked the right guy.

Todd did a bang up job of developing Devin White. 

I feel extremely confident. 

 

White was not developable, so there is that.

 

Name the players that Todd has developed.

 

 

Well, I guess that means you agree that White was not developable for his own INTERNAL reason? 

 

Sure. I agree. 

Now, the list?

 


 
Posted : May. 20, 2026 7:33 am
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Posted by: @firebowles2026

If we think we have the developers and scheme to achieve his full potential then we picked the right guy.

Todd did a bang up job of developing Devin White. 

I feel extremely confident. 

 

White was not developable, so there is that.

 

Name the players that Todd has developed.

 

 

Well, I guess that means you agree that White was not developable for his own INTERNAL reason? 

 

Sure. I agree. 

Now, the list?

 

Depends on what you mean by develop but you could start with White.  Bowles is the ONLY coach to get him to play at an All-Pro level

If the metric for "develop" is sustained success (ie White was obviously a failure long term) then AWJ, Davis, Dean, Diaby, Kancey (if healthy 7.5 sacks), Vea, all young guys drafted and going on to solid careers so far. McCollum was awful last year but hes trying to be a #1 shut down corner as a 5th round pick? Too early to say but Parrish seems to be doing well.

He got a lot out of Mike Edwards and SMB. Hell, even Whitehead I. He even got a lot out of guys like Gholston and Hall. LVD credits him with expanding his knowledge of the game, the key to his late success. Shaq Barrett thrived under him.

Again, sort of depends on what one means by the word "develop" because where is the line between talent and development? The middle group here ("guys drafted and going on to solid careers so far") is maybe the best metric, but even there some is Bowles (or position coaches) and some is just the players. 

 

 


 
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