But they both have a hand in the collapse last year
One was a QB who’s play clearly regressed due to multiple injuries.
The other was a career losing HC, who gets out-schemed by junior college OC’s and lost a locker room.
While there’s definitely blame to lay, it isn’t equal.
You know I'll blame him more for sure but let's not pretend that baker was great. He was hurt and probably should not have played but he did and the results on the field were not good.
Never said Baker was blameless.
But, I’m also acknowledging that we probably win 3-4 games total last season without him.
Yes he willed his way to wins early on and he does have that do whatever it takes to win in him but he does get hurt too. It could be a challenge to keep him healthy with the formula we currently have.
My main point about baker is the investment side of it within the plan the bucs currently have. It's not sustainable because bowles will continuously put this team in a position where baker has to pull the team out of the funk it's in. The interceptions are also probably a part of that. That formula was just not sustainable.
They need to prove that a restart isn't the best idea. And who knows what that is.
My main point about baker is the investment side of it within the plan the bucs currently have. It's not sustainable because bowles will continuously put this team in a position where baker has to pull the team out of the funk it's in.
Agreed.
It was the teams that the Bucs lost to is the greatest reason the Bucs lost most of the last 9 games. The last half of the 2025 was suppose to be the easiest part of the season. So if you are looking for someone to blame, blame the panthers, the saints, the falcons and especially the dolphins who tricked the bucs into complacency by starting a rookie QB. That was downright diabolical of the dolphins.But they both have a hand in the collapse last year
One was a QB who’s play clearly regressed due to multiple injuries.
The other was a career losing HC, who gets out-schemed by junior college OC’s and lost a locker room.
While there’s definitely blame to lay, it isn’t equal.
You know I'll blame him more for sure but let's not pretend that baker was great. He was hurt and probably should not have played but he did and the results on the field were not good.
Never said Baker was blameless.
But, I’m also acknowledging that we probably win 3-4 games total last season without him.
But they both have a hand in the collapse last year
One was a QB who’s play clearly regressed due to multiple injuries.
The other was a career losing HC, who gets out-schemed by junior college OC’s and lost a locker room.
While there’s definitely blame to lay, it isn’t equal.
You know I'll blame him more for sure but let's not pretend that baker was great. He was hurt and probably should not have played but he did and the results on the field were not good.
Never said Baker was blameless.
But, I’m also acknowledging that we probably win 3-4 games total last season without him.
Obviously true (in bold) and that truth is what makes the Badabing/Biggs position border on a TROLL. Culling out an "MVP" start to get the infamous "11 games."
makes no business sense to sign him now, especially when you can easily just franchise tag him
If they think he’s “their guy” then yes, it does.
Needs to be within reason though.
I wouldn’t go beyond 4yrs - $160M with $96M to $100M guaranteed.
He’d be set financially and it could be an easily structured “team friendly” deal. They can draft the replacement.
Win/win for both sides.
Otherwise, he can enjoy his time in LA for a few years.
you probably hit it on the head with the amount of years Baker would accept but way light on the $40M AAV.
The AAV doesn’t matter.
The guarantee does.
And, I was pretty spot on in that department.
oh so amount per year doesn't matter or apparently length…
I’ve been more than consistent in my stance on guarantees.
On MULTIPLE occasions, you’ve proven you prioritize AAV over the full guaranteed amount.
I have no idea why, other than you being a complete fucking idiot.
