Not a fan of Vick, wouldnt hate him on a cheap deal.Funny reading all the comments from those of you who refuse to move on from the dog fighting stuff. Was it horrible, absolutely. Guy spent 2 years in jail for it. Yet I dont hear any of you say word one about the guys in the league who drink, drive, kill a person and spend 30 days in jail. I hope we do sign Vick if for no other reason than thinning the PR heard.
I never wanted Leonard Little on this team...
Yet guys like him or Stallworth don't receive anywhere near the amount of HATE that Vick does. The level of importance people place on a dog is amazing to me.
Leonard Little's "incident" happened when there was no social media and there was very limited message board activity. Talk to a MADD rep and they will tell you they can't stand Little. I also believe that it was the sheer number of dogs that were tortured and killed by Vick and his boys.
Because human beings care more about animals than their own people.
Because human beings care more about animals than their own people.
Just because we are born of the human race does not give us more rights, it gives us more responsibility.
People who are still on this dog fighting thing needs to get over it.The man paid his debt to society and has been out of trouble since. I'm not going to sit here and play "holier than thou"...That said I'm open to giving Vick a shot, but not for starters money and that contract better have a 16 game clause and a walk away clause.
As for him being here, i want no parts of it....but strictly because what takes place between the white lines. I simply don't think he's that good. I'd like us to set our sights higher.
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Leonard Little's "incident" happened when there was no social media and there was very limited message board activity. Talk to a MADD rep and they will tell you they can't stand Little. I also believe that it was the sheer number of dogs that were tortured and killed by Vick and his boys.
Yet talk to a Humane Society representative and they will tell you something entirely different about Vick :"Is Michael Vick a spokesperson for The HSUS?Michael Vick is a messenger for the cause in general, helping to reach new audiences. He’s supportive of our Pets for Life program to end dogfighting and helps to spread the message through his public appearances. His new videos will extend that reach to many more people.Did Michael Vick approach you or did you ask him to help you?When Vick was close to finishing his prison sentence, his representatives approached HSUS President and CEO Wayne Pacelle, who dismissed their first appeals. Later he agreed to meet with Vick, after considering the potential that Vick had to reach the estimated 100,000 participants in urban street dogfighting. If there was a chance that Vick could save one dog from suffering the same abuse he inflicted, the proposal was worth our consideration.After meeting with Vick and hearing him express his remorse, Pacelle consulted with The HSUS' board of directors and staff. Despite our utter disgust with what Vick did and our leading role in making sure he was convicted and punished for his crimes, we decided that shunning Vick forever would do no good for any animal. Vick paid $1 million for the care and rehabilitation of the dogs at Bad Newz Kennels. Now he contributes his time and his voice to attacking the problem by reaching out to inner-city youth.Has Michael Vick acknowledged that what he did to dogs was wrong?Yes. Over the course of several face-to-face meetings and during public appearances, Vick has apologized and acknowledged the suffering he caused to animals. He has expressed his remorse and his desire to help more animals than he harmed by being an advocate for the humane treatment of animals. We only agreed to give him an opportunity to speak with kids if he was committed to the goal of ending dogfighting and to publicly acknowledging that his past actions were cruel and unacceptable. " http://www.humanesociety.org/issues/dogfighting/qa/vick_faq.html
33 year old Mike Vick and 33 year old Tillman. I'll lose a lot of faith in Lovie if this turns out to be anything more than a rumor.
Why? Vick has another 3-7 years left in him. Tillman maybe 1-2 more years tops.
I've posted my thoughts on Vick, the scumbag, in a different thread so I'll limit this to football talk.Glennon is already better than Vick. He protects the ball and is a more accurate passer. I don't believe any team will promise Vick a starting role, but if the Bucs do, they will be worse off. I don't think he can beat out Glennon in an open competition.
I agree. Glennon will continue to grow and Vick is on his way out.
Glennon is a career backup. He's not the answer and everyone knows it.
Vick responded with two thumbs up because he thought he was asked what he thought about killing dogs. Man, I will have a stroke if we sign this dude.
Vick responded with two thumbs up because he thought he was asked what he thought about killing dogs. Man, I will have a stroke if we sign this dude.
I'm having a stroke now because of ignorant fans like you! I bet you couldn't even name one of the human killers in the last 10 years in the league. I'm an avid dog person but I know when someone has paid their time and everyone deserves a second chance. No one can claim they've never made a mistake."Hypocrite! First get rid of the log in your own eye; then you will see well enough to deal with the speck in your friend's eye." - Matthew 7:5
People who are still on this dog fighting thing needs to get over it.The man paid his debt to society and has been out of trouble since. I'm not going to sit here and play "holier than thou"...That said I'm open to giving Vick a shot, but not for starters money and that contract better have a 16 game clause and a walk away clause.
Im not a Vick fan by any means, but the guy spent more time in jail for klling dogs than other NFL players have for KILLING ACTUAL PEOPLESee: Brent. Josh; and the dude from the Rams some years back.
I thought Vick went to jail for tax evasion...He still sucks as a QB, tho'...
The actual charge was illegal commerce across state lines I believe.... but it was related to his Bad Newz Kennel .
Vick responded with two thumbs up because he thought he was asked what he thought about killing dogs. Man, I will have a stroke if we sign this dude.
I'm having a stroke now because of ignorant fans like you! I bet you couldn't even name one of the human killers in the last 10 years in the league. I'm an avid dog person but I know when someone has paid their time and everyone deserves a second chance. No one can claim they've never made a mistake."Hypocrite! First get rid of the log in your own eye; then you will see well enough to deal with the speck in your friend's eye." - Matthew 7:5
Leonard little, Dante stallworth, Rae carruth and Ray Lewis allegedly. Pay up homie. And I don't want them killers on my team anymore than I want Vick the dog killer on my team man. Vick paid his time? He slaughtered innocent dogs man and got a few years in prison and still has his career and millions. If you asking me to feel bad for him I ain't. Vick didn't just make a mistake. Maybe you can forgive him, but I can't.
The actual charge was illegal commerce across state lines I believe.... but it was related to his Bad Newz Kennel .
Edit. I was wrong. It was the gambling that got him.
Vick responded with two thumbs up because he thought he was asked what he thought about killing dogs. Man, I will have a stroke if we sign this dude.
I'm having a stroke now because of ignorant fans like you! I bet you couldn't even name one of the human killers in the last 10 years in the league. I'm an avid dog person but I know when someone has paid their time and everyone deserves a second chance. No one can claim they've never made a mistake."Hypocrite! First get rid of the log in your own eye; then you will see well enough to deal with the speck in your friend's eye." - Matthew 7:5
Calm down, dumbass. Just because you're cool with killing and abusing animals doesnt mean everyone needs to share your opinion. No doubt he is only sorry because he was caught.Pretty naive to think everyone deserves a second chance as well. For one, pedophiles do not. Animal abuse is abolsute sociopathic behavior and leads to further and more severe actions if unchecked. Since you went full retard and included a bible verse, heres one for youFor what happens to the children of man and what happens to the beasts is the same; as one dies, so dies the other. They all have the same breath, and man has no advantage over the beasts, for all is vanity. - Ecclesiastes 3:19
