Signing evans is for QB development.
you don’t think mahomes having Kelce and hill helped his development?
yeah great idea let’s have rookie QB, mayfield go at it without evans and Godwin to throw too, then wonder why they don’t work out.
evans made Winston look like a QB with potential, now the guy can barely be a #2
Brady looked roast in 2019, then looked what happened in 2020,2021 - helped extend his career
we don’t know what evans is asking for but 3 years 75 million would be a no brainer.
Well we know the Cardinals are probably tanking and then drafting a QB with their primary 1st round pick. And with Houston's first round pick if it is high enough the Cardinals are taking Marvin Harrison Jr. to help out their young QB. And they already addressed OL this year and will continue to do that in the following draft.
So if the Bucs want to be serious moving forward they would have a plan in place to have Evans play out his career as his Buc.
Randy Moss was pretty productive 30-33 but with prime Brady throwing to him
they will get something done. Football contracts are forward looking but statistically speaking Evans best days should be behind him. Should, not “are.”
Evans will be plenty productive the next 2 years then slightly regress just like Vincent Jackson did.
Speaking of which, Jackson was huge in Evans' development.
You don't throw players like Evans away for 3rd round picks. It's moronic.
And anyone advocating for signing White over him an effing tard.
White sucks... and if Godwin becomes the WR1 then he will regress too. People forget that Evans always gets the CB1.
Make the deal happen.
Bucs fans should be happy that you aren't the team GM.
Coming from the LPN that said we’d be a joke if we signed Brady.
Bucs fans should be happy that you aren't the team GM.
Make the deal happen.
90% of Buc fans will want evans back at all cost.
You are of the minority
Greenberg has shown that the salary cap is very forgiving.
I mean shit, we are a Shaq Barrett release of not feeling this extension agains your cap one bit in 2024. Don’t tell me you rather have Shaq over evans
Bucs fans should be happy that you aren't the team GM.
Make the deal happen.
90% of Buc fans will want evans back at all cost.
You are of the minority
Greenberg has shown that the salary cap is very forgiving.
I mean shit, we are a Shaq Barrett release of not feeling this extension agains your cap one bit in 2024. Don’t tell me you rather have Shaq over evans
That's because you're a "fan" and not involved with the finances of building a team.
From Today's TB Times (Romano):
TAMPA — Forget his age. Forget the odds.
Forget the game’s history.
If Mike Evans believes he can still be an
elite receiver in the NFL beyond his 31st
birthday, I suggest you do not doubt him.
He has been that talented, dedicated and
trustworthy on the field.
If he wants another big contract with lots
of guaranteed money that takes him into
his mid-30s, I wish only the best for him.
He has been that dignified, generous and loyal in the community.
And if he wants the team to make him an offer before his agent’s selfimposed deadline this weekend, I hope the Bucs pass.
You see, this is not just about Mike Evans. It’s about where the Bucs are as a
franchise. It’s about the salary cap. It’s about Devin White, Antoine Winfield
Jr., Tristan Wirfs and the next generation of Tampa Bay stars who are ready
to get paid.
What happens if Tampa Bay guarantees Evans another $70 million and he
gets hurt before the extension even kicks in for 2024? Or his production
drops off? Or the Bucs go 5-12 and decide a more comprehensive rebuild is
necessary?
Additional information is never a bad thing, and 10 weeks from now we’ll
know more about where this Bucs roster stands. We’ll know if the Baker
Mayfield reclamation project worked and whether he’s worth signing to a
long-term deal. We’ll know if Chris Godwin is all the way back from his knee
injury. We’ll know if the Bucs have a shot at the playoffs or whether the
focus has already turned toward the draft.
Putting off contract talks until Evans is on the cusp of free agency is risky. It
could end up costing the Bucs a lot more money to re-sign him if he has
another big season or, even worse, it could cost them the greatest receiver in
franchise history if he signs elsewhere.
But that’s a risk worth taking when a player is 30 and the roster is not Super
Bowl-ready.
Because of the salary cap, NFL owners and general managers cannot afford to
be as sentimental as fans. Sure, it would be great to see Evans play his entire
career in a Bucs jersey, but not if a new contract becomes an albatross on a
rebuilding team.
Do I think Evans is heading for a fall? Absolutely not. Nine years into his
career, there has been no discernible dropoff in his game. Through his first
67 games in Tampa Bay, Evans had 349 receptions for 5,170 yards and 35
touchdowns. In the next 68, he had 334 receptions for 5,255 yards and 46
touchdowns.
And it’s not unheard of for a wideout to perform at a high level beyond age
31, which is when a new extension would kick in. Jerry Rice, Tim Brown,
Terrell Owens, Cris Carter, Marvin Harrison all had multiple 1,000-yard
seasons in their 30s. Of course, you might have noticed that they all played a
generation ago.
In recent years, only Larry Fitzgerald and tight end Travis Kelce were putting
those type of seasons together in back-to-back fashion.
Having said that, I’d be surprised if Evans did not have another 1,000-yard
season in 2023. But he’s supposedly looking for a Cooper Kupp-type threeyear deal, and that means a potential salary cap hit in the $26-27 million
range beginning in 2024. The odds of that kind of deal aging well are dicey, at
best. And, even if Evans meets or exceeds expectations, the Bucs might not
be in the right situation salary cap-wise to make it worthwhile.
Once upon a time, the Bucs did right by Evans. When they signed him to his
current contract in 2018, he got more guaranteed money than any receiver in
NFL history. That guarantee was surpassed by Odell Beckham Jr. a few
months later and has since been topped by eight other receivers, but the
commitment was there. Across nine seasons in Tampa Bay, Evans has made
more than $100 million in salary.
So, no, this isn’t about loyalty, and it’s not necessarily about being cheap.
The Bucs have a responsibility to run the franchise in the best interests of
the future and their fans. And guaranteeing a boatload of money to an older
player a year before necessary is probably not a sound business decision.
It would undoubtedly be depressing to see Evans move on from Tampa Bay,
but that’s the nature of the business. Players want to get paid, and owners
want to get the best value for their dollar. That’s how Rice ended up in
Oakland and Seattle. That’s why Carter finished with a forgettable season in
Miami, and Randy Moss played for four different teams in his final two
seasons.
If the Bucs do not offer Evans an extension by the end of the week, it’s not
because they do not appreciate him or want him or respect him. It’s because
they’re looking out for the future. Same as Mike Evans.
Contact John Romano at jromano@tampabay.com. Follow
Sure, it would be great to see Evans play his entire
career in a Bucs jersey, but not if a new contract becomes an albatross on a
rebuilding team.
I would have to agree with this sentiment.
This is correct, but as one poster says it's possible that Evans could play another four years at a productive level and earn that money like Jerry Rice or Terrell Owens. Possible, but not probable. If he did he would be worth the money, but what is the probability of that? Licht has to determine what the odds are, and not what Evans thinks he can do. For the good of the team, Licht has to make the hard choice when he's probably friends with Evans. But Evans isn't being sent to the Gulag. If he's not in Tampa Bay he'll be well paid and going to a Super Bowl contender. We don't need to feel sorry for him.Sure, it would be great to see Evans play his entire
career in a Bucs jersey, but not if a new contract becomes an albatross on a
rebuilding team.I would have to agree with this sentiment.
And signing Jensen to a bad contract and drafting Hainsey anyway, and skipping on Creed to draft a backup qb.
Licht is so hit or miss. A genius at moments and a moron at others
Hainsey was drafted a year before Jensen's contract was up. They had it set up perfectly. Have Hainsey be the starting center in his second year and let Jensen walk at the end of the career. Then Licht couldn't help himself and created a disaster of a contract.
Bucs fans should be happy that you aren't the team GM.
Make the deal happen.
90% of Buc fans will want evans back at all cost.
You are of the minority
Greenberg has shown that the salary cap is very forgiving.
I mean shit, we are a Shaq Barrett release of not feeling this extension agains your cap one bit in 2024. Don’t tell me you rather have Shaq over evans
That's because you're a "fan" and not involved with the finances of building a team.
From Today's TB Times (Romano):
TAMPA — Forget his age. Forget the odds.
Forget the game’s history.
If Mike Evans believes he can still be an
elite receiver in the NFL beyond his 31st
birthday, I suggest you do not doubt him.
He has been that talented, dedicated and
trustworthy on the field.
If he wants another big contract with lots
of guaranteed money that takes him into
his mid-30s, I wish only the best for him.
He has been that dignified, generous and loyal in the community.
And if he wants the team to make him an offer before his agent’s selfimposed deadline this weekend, I hope the Bucs pass.
You see, this is not just about Mike Evans. It’s about where the Bucs are as a
franchise. It’s about the salary cap. It’s about Devin White, Antoine Winfield
Jr., Tristan Wirfs and the next generation of Tampa Bay stars who are ready
to get paid.
What happens if Tampa Bay guarantees Evans another $70 million and he
gets hurt before the extension even kicks in for 2024? Or his production
drops off? Or the Bucs go 5-12 and decide a more comprehensive rebuild is
necessary?
Additional information is never a bad thing, and 10 weeks from now we’ll
know more about where this Bucs roster stands. We’ll know if the Baker
Mayfield reclamation project worked and whether he’s worth signing to a
long-term deal. We’ll know if Chris Godwin is all the way back from his knee
injury. We’ll know if the Bucs have a shot at the playoffs or whether the
focus has already turned toward the draft.
Putting off contract talks until Evans is on the cusp of free agency is risky. It
could end up costing the Bucs a lot more money to re-sign him if he has
another big season or, even worse, it could cost them the greatest receiver in
franchise history if he signs elsewhere.
But that’s a risk worth taking when a player is 30 and the roster is not Super
Bowl-ready.
Because of the salary cap, NFL owners and general managers cannot afford to
be as sentimental as fans. Sure, it would be great to see Evans play his entire
career in a Bucs jersey, but not if a new contract becomes an albatross on a
rebuilding team.
Do I think Evans is heading for a fall? Absolutely not. Nine years into his
career, there has been no discernible dropoff in his game. Through his first
67 games in Tampa Bay, Evans had 349 receptions for 5,170 yards and 35
touchdowns. In the next 68, he had 334 receptions for 5,255 yards and 46
touchdowns.
And it’s not unheard of for a wideout to perform at a high level beyond age
31, which is when a new extension would kick in. Jerry Rice, Tim Brown,
Terrell Owens, Cris Carter, Marvin Harrison all had multiple 1,000-yard
seasons in their 30s. Of course, you might have noticed that they all played a
generation ago.
In recent years, only Larry Fitzgerald and tight end Travis Kelce were putting
those type of seasons together in back-to-back fashion.
Having said that, I’d be surprised if Evans did not have another 1,000-yard
season in 2023. But he’s supposedly looking for a Cooper Kupp-type threeyear deal, and that means a potential salary cap hit in the $26-27 million
range beginning in 2024. The odds of that kind of deal aging well are dicey, at
best. And, even if Evans meets or exceeds expectations, the Bucs might not
be in the right situation salary cap-wise to make it worthwhile.
Once upon a time, the Bucs did right by Evans. When they signed him to his
current contract in 2018, he got more guaranteed money than any receiver in
NFL history. That guarantee was surpassed by Odell Beckham Jr. a few
months later and has since been topped by eight other receivers, but the
commitment was there. Across nine seasons in Tampa Bay, Evans has made
more than $100 million in salary.
So, no, this isn’t about loyalty, and it’s not necessarily about being cheap.
The Bucs have a responsibility to run the franchise in the best interests of
the future and their fans. And guaranteeing a boatload of money to an older
player a year before necessary is probably not a sound business decision.
It would undoubtedly be depressing to see Evans move on from Tampa Bay,
but that’s the nature of the business. Players want to get paid, and owners
want to get the best value for their dollar. That’s how Rice ended up in
Oakland and Seattle. That’s why Carter finished with a forgettable season in
Miami, and Randy Moss played for four different teams in his final two
seasons.
If the Bucs do not offer Evans an extension by the end of the week, it’s not
because they do not appreciate him or want him or respect him. It’s because
they’re looking out for the future. Same as Mike Evans.
Contact John Romano at jromano@tampabay.com. Follow
im a finance executive so I certainly understand money and all that good stuff. What’s not good for business would be to get rid of a productive fan favorite who wants to be treated at market value.
let’s face it. The glazers were willing to get Brady for one reason - put fans in the stands. They traded for his buddy and signed fournette and AB on the cheap but other than that, largely keep the team from 2019.
Now as they battle cap issues, they have more rookies/undrafted rookies than ever before and their starting QB is at likely a league low of 4million.
if the Bucs of the last few years have shown anything, we can easily get evans in under the cap. And given his productivity and 6’5 reach, you’d be foolish not to equip your QB of the future with this guy.
He’s older but from both a football and business perspective, the risk is a no brainer slam dunk. Would be shocked if they didn’t get a deal done. Maybe not this week but prior to free agency.
feel as confident about that as how sure and slam dunk it was that mayfield would start week 1
Stopped reading that clown article the minute they mentioned Devin White needing to get paid.
Stopped reading that clown article the minute they mentioned Devin White needing to get paid.
yeah honestly outside of Wirfs, Vea (already paid), Davis/Dean (already paid), and maybe Injuryfield.....sorry Winfield....who would even be argued to be more important than Evans
and those not understanding the salary cap are severely overstating the 2024 situation
literally would have about $22Million in space with following free agents - Evans, White, Winfield, David, Mayfield; and that's before restructures, cap cuts and extensions.
the cap space in 2025 - is like over $150 million. Now obviously that gets eaten up quickly with getting your stars under contract but don't go full retard by not signing Evans. #tropicthunder
Bucs can resign all their own players if they want the next two off seasons. And frankly there are not any UFAs out there the next two off seasons worth pursuing so the Bucs are better off resigning their own and focusing on the draft. If the Bucs think they are far from a super bowl team the Glazers will NOT open the wallet for UFAs and will instead be okay with resigning the homegrown players if it makes sense for team building.
