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Posted by: @detrimental

Just hoping for a split. I like how poised our team looked on the road in Detroit, we will be getting similar type environment setting tonight and next Sunday. Hopefully they stay focused

Yeah, I'm still a little unsure as to what this team is. I don't think they are as good as they looked vs. Detroit. But I also don't think they are as bad as they were vs. Denver. The Philly game is hard to get an accurate assessment, as Philly was missing a lot of fire power on offense. Jayden Daniels has looked very good since that opening week, but he was still a rookie making his first start in the NFL - which was advantage TB.

I think we will find out who and what this team is over the next six games: ATL, NO, BAL, ATL, KC, & SF. That's the toughest stretch of the season. 3-3 is acceptable against that run, but 4-2 would be great.

 

 
Posted : Oct. 3, 2024 12:32 pm
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I think we will find out who and what this team is over the next six games: ATL, NO, BAL, ATL, KC, & SF. That's the toughest stretch of the season. 3-3 is acceptable against that run, but 4-2 would be great.

Yes

and after that string of games they close the second half of the season with a few teams that are currently .500 or below.

No game is easy in the NFL

 
Posted : Oct. 3, 2024 12:56 pm
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Posted by: @biggs3535

think we will find out who and what this team is over the next six games: ATL, NO, BAL, ATL, KC, & SF. That's the toughest stretch of the season. 3-3 is acceptable against that run, but 4-2 would be great.

Agreed on all these.

That would put us at either 6-4 or 7-3 going into the bye and a 4-week stretch of games that are currently very winnable. 

 
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Posted by: @biggs3535

think we will find out who and what this team is over the next six games: ATL, NO, BAL, ATL, KC, & SF. That's the toughest stretch of the season. 3-3 is acceptable against that run, but 4-2 would be great.

Agreed on all these.

That would put us at either 6-4 or 7-3 going into the bye and a 4-week stretch of games that are currently very winnable. 

The one caveat being they can't lose all three division games. That wouldn't be acceptable.

 

 
Posted : Oct. 3, 2024 2:52 pm
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I think Goedeke might be out again. 

We could be watching his career get cut short

 

Yup he has been ruled out for tomorrow. Something is definitely up with that concussion.

 

let's hope it's just the short week but something would def be up if he doesnt play the saints next week. 

 

Judon is going to have a hay day against Skule. Baker better get rid of the ball in a hurry or he will be running for his life the whole game. 

 

 
Posted : Oct. 3, 2024 3:00 pm
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Posted by: @detrimental

Just hoping for a split. I like how poised our team looked on the road in Detroit, we will be getting similar type environment setting tonight and next Sunday. Hopefully they stay focused

Yeah, I'm still a little unsure as to what this team is. I don't think they are as good as they looked vs. Detroit. But I also don't think they are as bad as they were vs. Denver. The Philly game is hard to get an accurate assessment, as Philly was missing a lot of fire power on offense. Jayden Daniels has looked very good since that opening week, but he was still a rookie making his first start in the NFL - which was advantage TB.

I think we will find out who and what this team is over the next six games: ATL, NO, BAL, ATL, KC, & SF. That's the toughest stretch of the season. 3-3 is acceptable against that run, but 4-2 would be great.

 

I agree. I thought we would win considering they had lost their best WR's. The real test is the next 6 games, if we are contenders we at least go .500, and if not we are another mediocre team.

 

 
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Just hoping for a split. I like how poised our team looked on the road in Detroit, we will be getting similar type environment setting tonight and next Sunday. Hopefully they stay focused

Yeah, I'm still a little unsure as to what this team is. I don't think they are as good as they looked vs. Detroit. But I also don't think they are as bad as they were vs. Denver. The Philly game is hard to get an accurate assessment, as Philly was missing a lot of fire power on offense. Jayden Daniels has looked very good since that opening week, but he was still a rookie making his first start in the NFL - which was advantage TB.

I think we will find out who and what this team is over the next six games: ATL, NO, BAL, ATL, KC, & SF. That's the toughest stretch of the season. 3-3 is acceptable against that run, but 4-2 would be great.

 

I agree. I thought we would win considering they had lost their best WR's. The real test is the next 6 games, if we are contenders we at least go .500, and if not we are another mediocre team.

 

i'd say, if we are mediocre, we go 1-5 these next 6 games.  We are playing Super Bowl Champs, Super Bowl runner ups, and perennial AFC Champ contenders. We then have 3 division games with 2 on the road.  I say mediocre because we then have 7 games to end the season in which i expect at a minimum 5 wins with a chance to win all 7.

We win all 7, we are 11-6.  We win 5, we are 9-8.  See where i am going?  a Mediocre playoff team similar to last year. 

if we go 3-3, then we are certainly for real but just not on the same tier as the top echelon of teams.

If we do better than 3-3, we may just be Super Bowl contenders. 

 

 

 
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I think we will find out who and what this team is over the next six games: ATL, NO, BAL, ATL, KC, & SF. That's the toughest stretch of the season. 3-3 is acceptable against that run, but 4-2 would be great.

1-5 is how these six games turned out, and the team they beat has fired it's Head Coach.

Awesome.

 
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I think we will find out who and what this team is over the next six games: ATL, NO, BAL, ATL, KC, & SF. That's the toughest stretch of the season. 3-3 is acceptable against that run, but 4-2 would be great.

1-5 is how these six games turned out, and the team they beat has fired it's Head Coach.

Awesome.

The team they beat was also playing their third string QB. Rookie 5th round draft choice Spenser Rattler.

 

 
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Interesting article on Mayfield.  Not trusting receivers? pre-snap decision on where he's going?

 
Posted : Nov. 12, 2024 10:41 am
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https://www.pewterreport.com/bucs-baker-mayfield-hidden-yardage-mistakes/

Yeah, there were too many examples of this. Posters were/are blaming the lack of the passing game on the WR's, but there were guys open for multiple explosives that Mayfield simply didn't throw.

This stuff never shows up in the box score, but it's there to see on film.

 

 
Posted : Nov. 12, 2024 10:50 am
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LOL, this is the conclusion of the article

 

"Add in the drops I mentioned earlier along with some bad balls by Baker Mayfield, including throwing behind Cade Otton on a simple bench route, too far in front of Sterling Shepard on a speed cut, and just overthrowing Shepard fully on a corner route, and the offense is giving away plays they cannot afford to give up with a defense that is as leaky as pipe in an 80-year-old condemned building.

Mayfield finished the day 18-of-29 for just 116 yards and a touchdown. But if he had capitalized on some of this hidden yardage those numbers would have looked a lot better. And the result of the game may have gone in the Bucs’ favor."

 

KEY PHRASE IN CONCLUSION

 

"the offense is giving away plays they cannot afford to give up with a defense that is as leaky as pipe in an 80-year-old condemned building."

 

the offense

drops

bad balls by Mayfield

hidden yardage missed by Mayfield (the body of the article)

 

Eliminate "some" of those things and the "results may have gone in he Bucs favor."

 

Its a team sport

 
Posted : Nov. 12, 2024 11:04 am
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Interesting article on Mayfield.  Not trusting receivers? pre-snap decision on where he's going?

 

i mean do you blame him....especially once Wirfs went down lol

Baker only reason we were even in the last 2 games.  The running backs have been great supporters but very hard to move the ball without any receivers 

 

 
Posted : Nov. 12, 2024 11:57 am
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Interesting article on Mayfield.  Not trusting receivers? pre-snap decision on where he's going?

 i mean do you blame him....especially once Wirfs went down lol

Baker only reason we were even in the last 2 games.  The running backs have been great supporters but very hard to move the ball without any receivers 

 

There's plenty of blame to go around BUT its one thing to go from the article - his choices on some plays that were SUCCESSFUL could've been more successful and he had some bad throws (anyone can see that) -- to suggesting that the receivers were NPT problematic and it was Mayfield not throwing MULTIPLE explosives. The primary example in the article is choosing to NOT throw to Miller and instead going to Otton, successfully. Miller was open and may have even added yards, but does any reasonable person actually question why Mayfield would go to Otton over Miller?

The article is identifying a problem when teams get heavily injured and start losing, all players start over compensating and changing their play. Mayfield going to Otton over Miller is like LVD being caught out of position because he's covering for Britt.

 

The article is interesting because it captures that reality, not because it shows that "posters" are wrong for calling out the WR play lol

 

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