Posters were/are blaming the lack of the passing game on the WR's,
Cam Brate:
“Really the past few weeks, you know, there’s not a ton of guys to throw to on the outside,” Brate said. “The defense knows we’re going to run the ball a lot.”
Chris Simms said the same
Posters were/are blaming the lack of the passing game on the WR's,
Cam Brate:
“Really the past few weeks, you know, there’s not a ton of guys to throw to on the outside,” Brate said. “The defense knows we’re going to run the ball a lot.”
Chris Simms said the same
This is the type of stuff that fools the coach speak simpletons, which is to say you. You’re really the only nimrod that continues to be fooled by it.
Receivers were open to throw the ball to - multiple times. This cannot be argued. Gargle the balls of pundits all you want. The film is crystal clear.
Posters were/are blaming the lack of the passing game on the WR's,
Cam Brate:
“Really the past few weeks, you know, there’s not a ton of guys to throw to on the outside,” Brate said. “The defense knows we’re going to run the ball a lot.”
Chris Simms said the same
This is the type of stuff that fools the coach speak simpletons, which is to say you. You’re really the only nimrod that continues to be fooled by it.
Receivers were open to throw the ball to - multiple times. This cannot be argued. Gargle the balls of pundits all you want. The film is crystal clear.
Did you watch that film on your adding machine?
Biggs, there is nothing you post here that means anything. Blather on all you want troll boy. It is all you got.
So last night I finally watched the A-22 of the game, and the reason Baker didn't throw down field more became pretty obvious rather quickly. I expected to see that Baker's protection broke down too quickly for him to even get to the deeper shots, and that did occur, the most obvious example was the spin-o-rama play, where if 68 blocks better Baker would've been able to throw that ball on time. But the spin to avoid pressure makes the throw late. Also, the receiver actually slows down after stacking the DB, which may have ruined the play as well, but that's harder to judge. However, protection issues weren't as pervasive as I thought they'd be over the course of the game.
Another issue that popped up multiple times was receivers not running the right routes. There are at least 4 times that two receivers run the same route or run routes that cancel each other out.
From the A-22 it appears that Baker missed at least 3 decent opportunities to throw the ball deep when he did have time. I'd say he just didn't see them for the most part, though one was clearly a screen pass and he never got his head turned to the left.
He missed 4 other passes due to poor timing or just inaccuracy.
However, consistently the most common two problems were that none of the WRs seem to know when/where to sit down in zone with any consistency and none seem to know how to make a sight adjustment. The WRs I'm referencing are 10, 18 and 81 in particular, though 17 wasn't much better. I'd have to say the difference was incremental at best.
You can actually see that Baker wanted to throw deep to all of these WRs at various times during the game, but they either ran themselves into coverage when the defense was playing zone or vs. man they didn't make the sight adjustment and break off the paper route and run the go or the skinny post or whatever. Meanwhile, Baker is double clutching in the pocket, obviously wanting to throw them the ball, but the WR isn't running to open space or doesn't sit down in the soft spot.
Now, I don't know any of these WRs very well, not even Shepard, because the last time I really watched him was in college at OU. But the most experienced aside from Shepard appears to be #10, Palmer, who is in just his 2nd year, correct? The other two (81/18) appear to be rooks? So I'd have to say that the biggest problem with the downfield passing attack is inexperience. Palmer had at least one if not two chances to score a TD if he'd just made the correct sight adjustment, one early in the game and one late in the 2nd half.
The first one (2nd or 3rd drive, iirc) because it was so easy. It looks like the paper route was a deep corner or deep post-corner route. The Db played outside leverage, giving Trey the middle of the field, and the deep safety is on the other side of the field because of the trips formation on that side. This gave Trey a textbook opportunity to cancel the corner route as soon as he saw it was man coverage and run either just a go just outside the hash or a skinny post, which would've stacked the DB simultaneously preventing the S from ever getting into the play. And you can tell Baker sees it early and wants to throw it. He double hitches waiting to see if Trey runs the go or the skinny post, but Trey runs the paper route to the corner putting the DB back into a position to defend the pass (as well as massively shrinking the window), so Baker checks it down to whoever was the outlet short left.
In total, I counted at least 5-6 times that Coen's design should've created a deep shot opportunity in which Baker saw the chance and clearly wanted to throw those deep shots but his receivers didn't make the proper sight adjustment or didn't sit down when/where they should have.
Anyway, while watching the A-22, I wondered at one point if Baker should've just thrown to where the WR should've been (when it was safe to do so), just so the WR could see on the tablet where they were supposed to go/sit. I know Brady did things like that at times in NE. Problem with that, of course, is that Baker couldn't really waste snaps; he had to complete passes and gain yards as often as possible.
Sidenote: I think the best zone receiver on the team besides Otton might actually be RB R. White. He seems to find the soft spots in zones with more consistency than just about every other receiver on the team not named Cade. He also is probably the best receiver during the scramble drill, imo. He just seems to find ways to make himself available more efficiently than any of the WRs, plus he's a big body and seems willing to catch the ball in tight windows and contested situations. I wonder if Coen should consider putting White in the slot more for that reason. It would take away snaps from one of the WRs, but I honestly don't think Miller is that valuable on the field anyway.
Anyway, that's my amateur analysis of the passing game vs. SF.
Great post. Thanks for the breakdown.
agree especially about White
Don't know if you guys watch this guy, but he breaks down Baker semi-regularly, and he's not a Baker fan, so I check him out whenever possible.
This is JoeA's breakdown of baker's performance vs. SF. I agree with almost all of it, and where I don't agree either I'm being nit-picky or he is, imo.
Note: this guy isn't a Bowles, White, Jarrett or McMillan fan. He does seem to like Palmer a lot. Anyway, he criticizes the aforementioned people several times during the analysis, and again at the end of the analysis. If that bothers anyone, maybe stop watching after about 27:50.
I agreed with a lot of that criticism. Although, it seems a bit counterintuitive to say that Baker should trust his receivers NOT named Evans & Godwin - because they did get open - then crap all over said receivers for not getting open, or not catching balls.
Its what I’ve thought after watching his videos: he’s not bad, he’s just not consistent.
overall, he did a balanced review.
