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The 2019 season being over in October is a giant hole in the theory that Bowles is holding Licht’s roster back. 

We have the same roster as we did in October of 2019?

2019 was probably better. 

QB- 24

RB- 24

WR1- 19

WR2- 19

WR3- 24

TE1- 19

TE2- 19

LT- 24

LG- 19

C- 19

RG- 19

RT- Even

Edge 1- 19

Edge 2- 19

DE- 19

DE- 19

NT- 19

ILB- 19

ILB- 19

CB- 24

CB- 19

CB- 24

FS- 24

SS- 19

 

Now, do the 2020 roster.

 


 
Posted : Dec. 23, 2025 10:43 am
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@jc5100 of course players matter. But coaching trumps in football. Once players start losing faith in schemes, that’s when coaches start losing locker rooms. All players are better in well-coached schemes.


 
Posted : Dec. 23, 2025 10:51 am
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Posted by: @jc5100

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Posted by: @jc5100

The 2019 season being over in October is a giant hole in the theory that Bowles is holding Licht’s roster back. 

We have the same roster as we did in October of 2019?

2019 was probably better. 

QB- 24

RB- 24

WR1- 19

WR2- 19

WR3- 24

TE1- 19

TE2- 19

LT- 24

LG- 19

C- 19

RG- 19

RT- Even

Edge 1- 19

Edge 2- 19

DE- 19

DE- 19

NT- 19

ILB- 19

ILB- 19

CB- 24

CB- 19

CB- 24

FS- 24

SS- 19

 

Now, do the 2020 roster.

 

So you concede the 2019 roster was better and Arians couldn’t win with it. 

2020 was a unicorn with Brady and Gronk. It happened, it was fun, but we’re back to Licht’s reality. 

 


 
Posted : Dec. 23, 2025 10:51 am
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The 2019 season being over in October is a giant hole in the theory that Bowles is holding Licht’s roster back. 

We have the same roster as we did in October of 2019?

2019 was probably better. 

QB- 24

RB- 24

WR1- 19

WR2- 19

WR3- 24

TE1- 19

TE2- 19

LT- 24

LG- 19

C- 19

RG- 19

RT- Even

Edge 1- 19

Edge 2- 19

DE- 19

DE- 19

NT- 19

ILB- 19

ILB- 19

CB- 24

CB- 19

CB- 24

FS- 24

SS- 19

 

Now, do the 2020 roster.

 

So you concede the 2019 roster was better and Arians couldn’t win with it. 

2020 was a unicorn with Brady and Gronk. It happened, it was fun, but we’re back to Licht’s reality. 

 

 

The 2019 roster was super talented. Its not a shock that Jamies held that team back with the ridiculous amount of turnovers. 

 


 
Posted : Dec. 23, 2025 11:16 am
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JC5100 - the last 3 weeks has nothing to do with injuries or talent

this team seems to forgot how to win a football game.  

we all banked on us winning 5 of the last 6 weeks because of easier opponents but the suck (against good teams) carried over to suck against inferior teams.

you can look at the roster all you want, but this roster is not a losing record roster. 

What is you angle?  Are you suggesting Bowles should remain coach?


 
Posted : Dec. 23, 2025 11:28 am
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JC5100 - the last 3 weeks has nothing to do with injuries or talent

this team seems to forgot how to win a football game.  

we all banked on us winning 5 of the last 6 weeks because of easier opponents but the suck (against good teams) carried over to suck against inferior teams.

you can look at the roster all you want, but this roster is not a losing record roster. 

What is you angle?  Are you suggesting Bowles should remain coach?

Yes Bowles should remain coach. I would fire Grizzard and the ST coach. I think we have an OC and personnel issue, not a HC issue. 

This is certainly not a winning roster. The iOL is pathetic. The edges are pathetic. TEs are ass. David is done and Dennis is a backup. 

The people screaming to fire Bowles are just ignoring that 3 different coaches couldn’t win with Licht’s roster before Brady. It’s a pretty important point. 

 


 
Posted : Dec. 23, 2025 12:11 pm
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JC5100 - the last 3 weeks has nothing to do with injuries or talent

this team seems to forgot how to win a football game.  

we all banked on us winning 5 of the last 6 weeks because of easier opponents but the suck (against good teams) carried over to suck against inferior teams.

you can look at the roster all you want, but this roster is not a losing record roster. 

What is you angle?  Are you suggesting Bowles should remain coach?

Yes Bowles should remain coach. I would fire Grizzard and the ST coach. I think we have an OC and personnel issue, not a HC issue. 

This is certainly not a winning roster. The iOL is pathetic. The edges are pathetic. TEs are ass. David is done and Dennis is a backup. 

The people screaming to fire Bowles are just ignoring that 3 different coaches couldn’t win with Licht’s roster before Brady. It’s a pretty important point. 

 

who calls the defense next year in this scenario? Do we get an actual DC?

 


 
Posted : Dec. 23, 2025 12:13 pm
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JC5100 - the last 3 weeks has nothing to do with injuries or talent

this team seems to forgot how to win a football game.  

we all banked on us winning 5 of the last 6 weeks because of easier opponents but the suck (against good teams) carried over to suck against inferior teams.

you can look at the roster all you want, but this roster is not a losing record roster. 

What is you angle?  Are you suggesting Bowles should remain coach?

Yes Bowles should remain coach. I would fire Grizzard and the ST coach. I think we have an OC and personnel issue, not a HC issue. 

This is certainly not a winning roster. The iOL is pathetic. The edges are pathetic. TEs are ass. David is done and Dennis is a backup. 

The people screaming to fire Bowles are just ignoring that 3 different coaches couldn’t win with Licht’s roster before Brady. It’s a pretty important point. 

 

who calls the defense next year in this scenario? Do we get an actual DC?

 

We get actual edge rushers. I would do whatever it takes within reason to get Maxx Crosby. 

 


 
Posted : Dec. 23, 2025 12:29 pm
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The Coaching Evaluations of the Red Board GM are equally as bad as his personnel evaluations:

 

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Ben Johnson named Chicago Bears new HC. 

Does Chicago know that dumbass Ben Johnson called a play that the Red Board GM didn’t like? That franchise is going to get fried.

 

Ben Johnson will flop in Chicago. You can save that. 

The Bears went from 5-12 to 11-4, so far. Flop city.

 

 

Posted by: @jc5100

Jets are interviewing Greenberg for GM. Hopefully he takes pass happy Liam Coma with him. 

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Good riddance . He (Coen) wasn’t what you all thought he was.

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Most of you never heard of him 12 months ago. Now all of the sudden he's the most important piece to be a Super Bowl, while you all shit on the coach who held the Chiefs to 9 points in the Super Bowl. 

Coen was a fraud and I was the only one who had the balls to say it. His situational play calling was terrible and cost the Bucs games and the playoffs. 

Now get an OC who will be run heavy and lets lead the league in rushing. 

Jags have gone from 4-13 to 11-4, so far. Duuuuuuuval keeps winning, while the Red Board GM can't stop shamelessly taking L's.


 
Posted : Dec. 23, 2025 12:49 pm
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The Coaching Evaluations of the Red Board GM are equally as bad as his personnel evaluations:

 

Posted by: @jc5100

Posted by: @biggs3535

Posted by: @donkey_hunter

Ben Johnson named Chicago Bears new HC. 

Does Chicago know that dumbass Ben Johnson called a play that the Red Board GM didn’t like? That franchise is going to get fried.

 

Ben Johnson will flop in Chicago. You can save that. 

The Bears went from 5-12 to 11-4, so far. Flop city.

 

 

Posted by: @jc5100

Jets are interviewing Greenberg for GM. Hopefully he takes pass happy Liam Coma with him. 

Posted by: @jc5100

Good riddance . He (Coen) wasn’t what you all thought he was.

Posted by: @jc5100

Most of you never heard of him 12 months ago. Now all of the sudden he's the most important piece to be a Super Bowl, while you all shit on the coach who held the Chiefs to 9 points in the Super Bowl. 

Coen was a fraud and I was the only one who had the balls to say it. His situational play calling was terrible and cost the Bucs games and the playoffs. 

Now get an OC who will be run heavy and lets lead the league in rushing. 

Jags have gone from 4-13 to 11-4, so far. Duuuuuuuval keeps winning, while the Red Board GM can't stop shamelessly taking L's.

LOL thanks for keeping the receipts. JC is a clown who throws shit at the wall and hopes it sticks. Not a serious person.

 


 
Posted : Dec. 23, 2025 1:01 pm
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Bowles job goes beyond this year. His defense doesn’t disrupt routes, is horrible at passing off receivers in zone, and doesn’t play enough man2man to play it good. He has been a huge reason for the defensive personnel we have. And he always gets involved with the offense and pushes the run game. Even last year under Coen I noticed as the season moved along they were running more and more on first down, opposed to early in the season and taking what the opposing defense gave us. Bowles is done. And his defense no longer has any confidence in his scheme.


 
Posted : Dec. 23, 2025 1:38 pm
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Bowles job goes beyond this year. His defense doesn’t disrupt routes, is horrible at passing off receivers in zone, and doesn’t play enough man2man to play it good. He has been a huge reason for the defensive personnel we have. And he always gets involved with the offense and pushes the run game. Even last year under Coen I noticed as the season moved along they were running more and more on first down, opposed to early in the season and taking what the opposing defense gave us. Bowles is done. And his defense no longer has any confidence in his scheme.


 
Posted : Dec. 23, 2025 1:38 pm
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Now post my W’s


 
Posted : Dec. 23, 2025 1:49 pm
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Posted by: @jc5100

Now post my W’s

You hate Licht but you agreed with his move to let Coen walk and keep Bowles.

So...

 


 
Posted : Dec. 23, 2025 2:48 pm
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Now post my W’s

You hate Licht but you agreed with his move to let Coen walk and keep Bowles.

So...

 

The mistake was Grizzard over Kubiak. For some reason Biggs didn’t post me advocating for Kubiak. 

 


 
Posted : Dec. 23, 2025 3:24 pm
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