The third down guru is dialing up some trash...
When this was pointed out after his hiring, I said that designing plays is different than calling them. We are seeing that on Sundays.
One of them was a double move for Egbuka that Baker just started down.
Is it the playcaller's fault the QB stared down the WR?
Both. A double move implies first read and it takes time to develop. You don't wait for half the double move to work then before he's done look away. It's a one read play unless you're willing to stare for 2 seconds, hold the ball and not get sacked, then go to your flat progression on the other side of the field
@bucsbits - I would love that to work. Bowles will have a good scheme for Josh Allen, but they’ll figure it out by the second half. Hopefully by then we will have a nice comfortable lead.
that would be great. fingers crossed.
Thanks for posting these takes. Enjoy reading them.
outcoached by Vrabel and his guys in year-one.
much credit to Vrabel and to McDaniel. very disciplined team
You guys are so confused though. You have no idea if you're coming or going. lmao lf you treated McDaniel like you do Grizz you'd be calling the Pats victory a "lucky" nightmare of BAD play calling. Through much of the game McDaniel not only runs on first down, he ran on first downs consecutively even while gaining zero, 2 yards and one yard. YOU GUJYS ARE CRUSHING GRIZZ for running on first down that included gains of 11, 12 and 16
The Bucs scored a TD first drive and then had a lull. GRIZZ!
The Patriots were PUNT, PUNT, TD (in 2 plays), PUNT . . before they finally put together a drive. (crickets)
McDaniel called a good game and even took advantage of a Bowles blitz, but if he was Grizz you'd say he was incompetent and BORING . . talk about VANILLA. It was CANALES football to a "T" I mean that as compliment, you guys would say the opposite
Pick a freaking lane and stay in it lmao
@bucsbits - I’ve got a post coming out about how McDaniels outsmarted Bowles in many situations. He setup their first play action TD pass beautifully. In the prior drive he came out in 22 and 21 personnel on 3 first downs and ran the ball for nothing. But the very first play of the following drive they came out in 21 personnel again on first down, knowing we’d be in single high man defense, like we ran the prior 3 times. On this play, they ran play action and got their speedy receiver to beat Morrison on a crossing route and up the field for a 72 yard TD pass.
McDaniels also routinely came out in shotgun 11 personnel on first down, knowing Bowles wouldn’t match personnel with personnel on first down, because he never does. And he threw into the zone Nelson dropped or hit the weak spot because we brought all 5 on the pass rush. His running game was more to set up other things.
outcoached by Vrabel and his guys in year-one.
much credit to Vrabel and to McDaniel. very disciplined team
You guys are so confused though. You have no idea if you're coming or going. lmao lf you treated McDaniel like you do Grizz you'd be calling the Pats victory a "lucky" nightmare of BAD play calling. Through much of the game McDaniel not only runs on first down, he ran on first downs consecutively even while gaining zero, 2 yards and one yard. YOU GUJYS ARE CRUSHING GRIZZ for running on first down that included gains of 11, 12 and 16
The Bucs scored a TD first drive and then had a lull. GRIZZ!
The Patriots were PUNT, PUNT, TD (in 2 plays), PUNT . . before they finally put together a drive. (crickets)
McDaniel called a good game and even took advantage of a Bowles blitz, but if he was Grizz you'd say he was incompetent and BORING . . talk about VANILLA. It was CANALES football to a "T" I mean that as compliment, you guys would say the opposite
Pick a freaking lane and stay in it lmao
It's fairly simple... It's like a boxing match where Bowles won the count but Patriots landed the heymakers and won with a KO.
Bowles called a pretty damn good game imo outside of 4 or 5 head scratcher players...
Smith just straight fucked us all game by falling for heymakers
The third down guru is dialing up some trash...
When this was pointed out after his hiring, I said that designing plays is different than calling them. We are seeing that on Sundays.
One of them was a double move for Egbuka that Baker just started down.
Is it the playcaller's fault the QB stared down the WR?
Both. A double move implies first read and it takes time to develop. You don't wait for half the double move to work then before he's done look away. It's a one read play unless you're willing to stare for 2 seconds, hold the ball and not get sacked, then go to your flat progression on the other side of the field
First, let me say I don't know what play you're referring to.
Second, I don't know how staring down the WR could be on anybody but the QB. I've never heard any offensive coach tell their QB to stare down a WR on purpose, unless...
Third, if it was a double move (remember, I don't know which specific play you're referring to) then it would make sense for the QB to be looking at the WR and give a pump fake on the initial move to get the CB to bite. Then the WR is wide open on the double move. Did Baker pump or just look at him the whole way?
outcoached by Vrabel and his guys in year-one.
much credit to Vrabel and to McDaniel. very disciplined team
You guys are so confused though. You have no idea if you're coming or going. lmao lf you treated McDaniel like you do Grizz you'd be calling the Pats victory a "lucky" nightmare of BAD play calling. Through much of the game McDaniel not only runs on first down, he ran on first downs consecutively even while gaining zero, 2 yards and one yard. YOU GUJYS ARE CRUSHING GRIZZ for running on first down that included gains of 11, 12 and 16
The Bucs scored a TD first drive and then had a lull. GRIZZ!
The Patriots were PUNT, PUNT, TD (in 2 plays), PUNT . . before they finally put together a drive. (crickets)
McDaniel called a good game and even took advantage of a Bowles blitz, but if he was Grizz you'd say he was incompetent and BORING . . talk about VANILLA. It was CANALES football to a "T" I mean that as compliment, you guys would say the opposite
Pick a freaking lane and stay in it lmao
It's fairly simple... It's like a boxing match where Bowles won the count but Patriots landed the heymakers and won with a KO.
Bowles called a pretty damn good game imo outside of 4 or 5 head scratcher players...
Smith just straight fucked us all game by falling for heymakers
yes, I agree
definitely not taking away from McDaniels because his play calling suggest he was ahead of Bowles, albeit to low percentage plays that just worked (Josh Q's point). My point though was McDaniel's play calling was the fundamental, basic play calling that many here would hate, at least while we were doing the run, run to set up the PA pass. Hell, if they dont connect on those and the low pecentage runs to win, McDaniels is probably skewred by the NE press lol.
But yes, IF Smith just plays an average game the 72 yard TD is maybe a FG or another punt and even more importantly he makes the tackle on Henderson to stop that TD right after the half. That was a back breaker.
If you want to watch a head scratcher of a play re-watch the Henderson run right after the half. Smith is in the hole. he does have a WR to contend with and its a big WR BUT he is in the hole before the WR, so its like he was waiting for a call to bail him out or something.
Every game this season that same scenario plays out over and and over, it is a FEATURE of the defense. Every play Smith makes that tackle, a relatively easy tackle . . but not against the Pats
Bowles' defense was not ready. Not paying attention to the DETAILS:
"Against New England on Sunday, Tampa Bay’s defense allowed four plays of 50-plus yards. No team has allowed more in 6,226 total team games since 2000, per TruMedia. Only the 2023 Broncos and 2015 Texans gave up that many in a game since then, both against the Dolphins."
Trap game trapped, 0-3 after the bye . . were are also "that team" . . .lost against a more fundamentally sound and disciplined team
Winfield didn't play well either... (Eye ball test)
I saw Diaby getting zero push or pressure fairly consistently, again eye ball test.
Our LBs are slow as fuck. Dennis is not a starter. David is done after this year.
It's just tough to watch Dennis have he lateral movement of a retired war general
he is having some problem, I'm pretty sure
