Another way to look at it is 'can you see an NFL starter' when you watch Glennon play.
Sometimes yes, sometimes no.
That's the thing, too many people act like there was never anything in his performance that said "starter". I think there were those flashes, but for a lot of people I think the negative emotion and expectations of failure obscured that. It's hard to get stoked when he made good plays, because you knew the team was going to find a way to screw it up later. That's the way the season wen from the very first game. So when he made a great play, people said "yeah, whatever" rather than "Wow!".
His stats aren't awful. The "favorites" of the he sucks and will never ever be a starter and I know it and am sure that he can never get better crowd are:1. Low YPA. Problem is diving into this you find he didn't throw short an inordinate amount of the time, he threw short less than Luck for example. He wasn't less efficient or effective downfield than guys like Rodgers or Brady or Luck. His YPA problem was because when he threw short he got short gains. His YPA throwing short was about 2 yards less than Brady or Rodgers or Luck. In other words, his problem was that we were not converting short to long on his throws. That isn't the story some folks want to tell.2. Awful in the second half. While he was awful in the second half he was better when tied or trailing than ahead for example. He was better behind by less than a TD than ahead more than a touchdown. He was better on the road than at home. In other words, it isn't that he chokes when the heat is on or he isn't money. It is that he was bad in the second half. The problem is there has to be another explanation for that disparity in ratings. I am not sold he has a ton of upside but he showed a lot more intriguing skills than I expected last year.
dalbuc, mabye I'm misreading what you said, but your 2nd point topic, about "2nd half qb", if he was better when trailing or tied, couldn't that be read as the coaches were playing the "don't lose the game" ? If he was behind, he played better because the calls coming in allowed him to make plays, but if the Bucs led, maybe the calls coming in were more designed to milk the clock instead of lighting up the scoreboard.--I'm not trying to defend Glennon, I just don't think he's as bad as some make him out to be. I truly think there is enough there that hopefully a true OC and coach can transform into a top 15 type qb.
Another way to look at it is 'can you see an NFL starter' when you watch Glennon play.
Sometimes yes, sometimes no.
That's the thing, too many people act like there was never anything in his performance that said "starter". I think there were those flashes, but for a lot of people I think the negative emotion and expectations of failure obscured that. It's hard to get stoked when he made good plays, because you knew the team was going to find a way to screw it up later. That's the way the season wen from the very first game. So when he made a great play, people said "yeah, whatever" rather than "Wow!".
His stats aren't awful. The "favorites" of the he sucks and will never ever be a starter and I know it and am sure that he can never get better crowd are:1. Low YPA. Problem is diving into this you find he didn't throw short an inordinate amount of the time, he threw short less than Luck for example. He wasn't less efficient or effective downfield than guys like Rodgers or Brady or Luck. His YPA problem was because when he threw short he got short gains. His YPA throwing short was about 2 yards less than Brady or Rodgers or Luck. In other words, his problem was that we were not converting short to long on his throws. That isn't the story some folks want to tell.2. Awful in the second half. While he was awful in the second half he was better when tied or trailing than ahead for example. He was better behind by less than a TD than ahead more than a touchdown. He was better on the road than at home. In other words, it isn't that he chokes when the heat is on or he isn't money. It is that he was bad in the second half. The problem is there has to be another explanation for that disparity in ratings. I am not sold he has a ton of upside but he showed a lot more intriguing skills than I expected last year.
He is a rookie QB learning how to play in the NFL. I believe with better coaching, a more productive offensive line, and better play calling that some of these areas will improve. Glennon is a smart QB who loves to study the game. I had a conversation with my dad the other night and he said before Dungy got here the fans and media were wanting to run John Lynch out of town as he was learning the game as a young player.
