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Posted by: @firebowles2026

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Posted by: @white-tiger

Our offense will have to score more points. 

Which is utterly ridiculous. 

 

 

What's so strange for me is Bowles has been relatively good lately and Dolphins exposed the Bills.

I didn't think Bowles was gonna hold them under 20 but this game was all the wrong levers at all the wrong times.

F- as a DC

F-- as a head coach 

 

 

But, but, but the offense needs to be better.

 


 
Posted : Nov. 16, 2025 9:27 pm
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Posted by: @white-tiger

I do think talent is part of it. We don’t have the receivers on the field

With the GOAT at QB we had Evans, Godwin and AB. And Gronk at TE

Right now Mayfield is throwing to two rookies,and Shep and Otten

One of the rookies is a legit threat, but man we are a long way from Evans Godwin and AB ... and Gronk

the good news (after the Rams) is that we have some very winnable games


 
Posted : Nov. 16, 2025 9:30 pm
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Posted by: @donkey_hunter

Posted by: @firebowles2026

Posted by: @donkey_hunter

Posted by: @white-tiger

Our offense will have to score more points. 

Which is utterly ridiculous. 

 

 

What's so strange for me is Bowles has been relatively good lately and Dolphins exposed the Bills.

I didn't think Bowles was gonna hold them under 20 but this game was all the wrong levers at all the wrong times.

F- as a DC

F-- as a head coach 

 

 

But, but, but the offense needs to be better.

 

Did you honestly have the Bucs winning this game? Seems like a week or so ago that you also felt we would struggle until we got our offensive horses back? 

 


 
Posted : Nov. 16, 2025 9:39 pm
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Posted by: @white-tiger

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Posted by: @firebowles2026

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Posted by: @white-tiger

Our offense will have to score more points. 

Which is utterly ridiculous. 

 

 

What's so strange for me is Bowles has been relatively good lately and Dolphins exposed the Bills.

I didn't think Bowles was gonna hold them under 20 but this game was all the wrong levers at all the wrong times.

F- as a DC

F-- as a head coach 

 

 

But, but, but the offense needs to be better.

 

Did you honestly have the Bucs winning this game? Seems like a week or so ago that you also felt we would struggle until we got our offensive horses back? 

 

There's literally multiple posts where I said I was taking the Bills to cover and had 2.0u on it. 

Offense played way better than I had expected. 

Again, THEY WERE NOT THE PROBLEM!

And, no, having Bucky/Jmac/CG today would've changed the outcome. 

This loss is on Todd Bowles and his defense. 

Period. 

 


 
Posted : Nov. 16, 2025 9:49 pm
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Both things can be true - offense played well (32 should win) defense did not (44 should lose) but it doesn't follow that having another weapon on offense died t change the outcome because having another weapon or two probably changes the early scoring and that impacts the way the game plays out  

I think we only came away with three points off the turnovers. We score more there the game plays out differently.  We still might still lose but not a given. It's not Irving or JMac or Godwin does not equal 12 more points because the game  plays out differently 

 

either way though defense was manhandled, outsmarted etc 


 
Posted : Nov. 16, 2025 10:02 pm
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Posted by: @donkey_hunter

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Posted by: @firebowles2026

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Posted by: @white-tiger

Our offense will have to score more points. 

Which is utterly ridiculous. 

 

 

What's so strange for me is Bowles has been relatively good lately and Dolphins exposed the Bills.

I didn't think Bowles was gonna hold them under 20 but this game was all the wrong levers at all the wrong times.

F- as a DC

F-- as a head coach 

 

 

But, but, but the offense needs to be better.

 

Did you honestly have the Bucs winning this game? Seems like a week or so ago that you also felt we would struggle until we got our offensive horses back? 

 

There's literally multiple posts where I said I was taking the Bills to cover and had 2.0u on it. 

Offense played way better than I had expected. 

Again, THEY WERE NOT THE PROBLEM!

And, no, having Bucky/Jmac/CG today would've changed the outcome. 

This loss is on Todd Bowles and his defense. 

Period. 

 

Absolutely disagree about the offense. After scoring 20 points in the 1st half, we scored 12 in the 2nd half. Plays stalled, we turned the ball over more.

I agree that the defense collapsed in 2nd half, but we had no offensive answers in the second half.

The lead went back and forth 7 times, and then we started playing from behind. 

Maybe our DC can scheme something differently against the Rams, but there isn’t talent coming to the rescue. That means we’re going to have to score more. In order to do that we need the weapons back on the field, I believe you were making that point, to me, a week or so ago.

We need our offensive weapons back.

 


 
Posted : Nov. 16, 2025 10:11 pm
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Absolutely disagree about the offense.

 Then we'll respectfully agree to disagree. 

To think that the offense was a problem after rushing for over 200+ yards and 32 points...is, well, it's a take alright. 

Nothing more than excuse making for the HC/DC.

Regardless, it doesn't matter. We're never winning a Lombardi with Todd Bowles.

Just glad guys like Evans and LVD got their ring when we had an actual winning culture and killer mentality in the locker room. 

 


 
Posted : Nov. 16, 2025 10:22 pm
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We need our offensive weapons back.

Of course

 


 
Posted : Nov. 16, 2025 10:26 pm
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@bucballa85 - come on. Our defense gave up 44 points. Our defense has given up way too many big play touchdowns the last 2 games. And there is no help coming for that group.

Exactly why they should have gone for it on that 4th and 2. We needed to win a shootout. Score there and your back ahead by 2. I knew it was over after bowles showed he had no balls. 

 


 
Posted : Nov. 17, 2025 1:52 am
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There's a ceiling on Bowles coached teams. Until we improve the pass rush, we aren't beating the top teams. I don't know how much longer Reddick is going to be out but we definitely need his ass out there. Braswell is a non factor, Nelson is just a rotational guy and Yaya isn't quite the guy to lead the pack. 

He got outcoached against a team that had nobodies at WR. 


 
Posted : Nov. 17, 2025 9:39 am
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There's a ceiling on Bowles coached teams. Until we improve the pass rush, we aren't beating the top teams. I don't know how much longer Reddick is going to be out but we definitely need his ass out there. Braswell is a non factor, Nelson is just a rotational guy and Yaya isn't quite the guy to lead the pack. 

He got outcoached against a team that had nobodies at WR. 

 

This. Exactly.

 


 
Posted : Nov. 17, 2025 10:04 am
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Offense was a problem in this game because we should have run for 300 yards. There were situations that called for runs and Grizzard called negative pass plays. 


 
Posted : Nov. 17, 2025 10:17 am
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this game could be about who runs the ball best

judging by our rush defense last Sunday that doesn’t bode well for us 

 

 

We ran the ball best and didnt win, but that is a promising sign going forward.

We also held Cook to 3 ypc.  Josh Allen running is what killed us

 


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Posted : Nov. 17, 2025 11:40 am
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Offense was a problem in this game because we should have run for 300 yards. There were situations that called for runs and Grizzard called negative pass plays. 

🤡

 


 
Posted : Nov. 17, 2025 12:04 pm
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Posted by: @bucsbits

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this game could be about who runs the ball best

judging by our rush defense last Sunday that doesn’t bode well for us 

 

 

We ran the ball best and didnt win, but that is a promising sign going forward.

We also held Cook to 3 ypc.  Josh Allen running is what killed us

 

My hope is we can build off of some of what we did yesterday, integrating some more unexpected pass plays now that the run game has shown that it can be used to leverage teams.

I do not think we have any resources to fix the defense, so the only way we can compete is to score more points. It ain’t fair, but neither is losing all your offensive line, all your starting WR’s, and your feature back for multiple games.

The Rams will be a tough out - not expecting a win now that they have seen the brilliance of our defense that was on display in Buffalo.

 


 
Posted : Nov. 17, 2025 12:21 pm
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