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Per ESPN, Jon Gruden is helping Derek Carr and the Saints install their offense.

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Interesting move for both Gruden and the Saints.

 
Posted : May. 26, 2023 7:20 pm
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Well he's known for being offensive.  

 
Posted : May. 26, 2023 8:57 pm
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He is in a consultant role with the team.

 
Posted : May. 26, 2023 9:45 pm
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Solid friendship between Derek carr and He

 

let’s face it, he doesn’t owe the Bucs anything since they kicked him out of the ring of honor 

 
Posted : May. 27, 2023 11:31 am
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Gruden is washed and he comes with baggage.

 

 
Posted : May. 27, 2023 11:38 am
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Posted by: @firebowles2023

Gruden is washed and he comes with baggage.

 

 

he was terrible at evaluating talent. Feel like Bruce Allen was his puppet but they couldn’t draft talent 

but as I said before, they were playing meaningful games in December with him. Aside from 2004 and 2006, every season was in the running. It was exciting time to be a fan. 

the 10 years after him? Maybe we had 2 seasons in the playoff hunt falling short but in most cases meaningful football was over by Halloween

let’s see how the non Brady years go

 

 
Posted : May. 27, 2023 5:39 pm
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Lovie was also a competitive coach at one point.

Times change 

 
Posted : May. 27, 2023 6:02 pm
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Posted by: @firebowles2023

Lovie was also a competitive coach at one point.

Times change 

 

not for us he wasn’t 

 

and I’m not arguing to bring gruden back lol 

just saying times haven’t been that great “or bright” other than the Brady years 

 

 
Posted : May. 27, 2023 6:12 pm
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but as I said before, they were playing meaningful games in December with him.

You meant Monte Kiffin.

 
Posted : May. 28, 2023 9:40 am
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I like Gruden, but many this is a Gruden fans description of his tenure

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they were playing meaningful games in December with him. Aside from 2004 and 2006, every season was in the running. It was exciting time to be a fan. 

2003  - - MISSED PLAYOFFS - team in total disarray, largely because of Gruden forcing out McKay etc.  

2004  -- MISSED PLAYOFFS again . . .  with a TON of talent

2005 - this is a playoff year BUT its also the year that totally ENDED GRUDEN because he made a late pivot and took Caddy over . . .  Aaron Rodgers. He did that IN PART because "Bruce Allen was his puppet"

2006 -- MISSED PLAYOFFS

2007, - made playoffs BUT barely in a division with every other team sub .500 and knocked out 1st round

2008 - MISSED PLAYOFFS

 
Posted : May. 28, 2023 12:33 pm
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Posted by: @badabingbucs

but as I said before, they were playing meaningful games in December with him.

You meant Monte Kiffin.

 

this ^^

 

Gruden's ego did him in. He won a SB but with a LEGENDARY defense

 

 
Posted : May. 28, 2023 12:36 pm
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I like Gruden, but many this is a Gruden fans description of his tenure

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they were playing meaningful games in December with him. Aside from 2004 and 2006, every season was in the running. It was exciting time to be a fan. 

2003  - - MISSED PLAYOFFS - team in total disarray, largely because of Gruden forcing out McKay etc.  

2004  -- MISSED PLAYOFFS again . . .  with a TON of talent

2005 - this is a playoff year BUT its also the year that totally ENDED GRUDEN because he made a late pivot and took Caddy over . . .  Aaron Rodgers. He did that IN PART because "Bruce Allen was his puppet"

2006 -- MISSED PLAYOFFS

2007, - made playoffs BUT barely in a division with every other team sub .500 and knocked out 1st round

2008 - MISSED PLAYOFFS

and the point I’m making that in even in 2003 and 2008, albeit terrible endings, we were playing meaningful football in December 

give whoever you want credit (as I’m sure we can give Bowles credit for the 2020 Super Bowl run) but under Gruden as head coach is something we would only dream of from 2009 to 2019

 

 
Posted : May. 28, 2023 12:47 pm
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Posted by: @firebowles2023

Gruden is washed and he comes with baggage.

 

 

he was terrible at evaluating talent. Feel like Bruce Allen was his puppet but they couldn’t draft talent 

but as I said before, they were playing meaningful games in December with him. Aside from 2004 and 2006, every season was in the running. It was exciting time to be a fan. 

the 10 years after him? Maybe we had 2 seasons in the playoff hunt falling short but in most cases meaningful football was over by Halloween

let’s see how the non Brady years go

 

Wasn't it Gruden who said Lameis Jameis wINsTon was the most NFL-ready QB he'd ever seen?

 

 
Posted : May. 28, 2023 3:43 pm
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Posted by: @badabingbucs

and the point I’m making that in even in 2003 and 2008, albeit terrible endings, we were playing meaningful football in December 

Again…because of Monte  

This isn’t hard…even for you.


 

 
Posted : May. 28, 2023 8:30 pm
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Posted by: @badabingbucs

and the point I’m making that in even in 2003 and 2008, albeit terrible endings, we were playing meaningful football in December 

Again…because of Monte  

This isn’t hard…even for you.


 

Understood. But talking strictly head coach regimes cuz. I’m sure you can comprehend 

 

 
Posted : May. 29, 2023 9:34 am
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