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Alldaway 2.0
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I agree don't pay big money for Jones.

Better plan is to sign a cheap vet, draft a QB and let those two compete with Trask. 

 
Posted : Feb. 16, 2023 4:09 am
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They are saying guys like geno smith and Dan jones will go for 35,40 million a year 

I could see Derek carr, Rodgers at those values. No one else

If jimmy G will cost $15,$20 million you go that route

 

if baker cost $10 million, you consider him although he didn’t do much in 2022

 
Posted : Feb. 16, 2023 12:19 pm
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I think it's clear, by the OC candidates they interviewed, that they wanted someone that could develop a QB. Pretty clear to me that the plan is to develop Trask and give him a chance to play. They'll likely sign a tier 2 type veteran FA QB to back him up and take over if he's struggles too much. Though, I think the organization plans to do like the Eagles did with Hurts and let Trask develop and see if they need to readdress the spot in next year's draft or not. Would be the smart thing to do, as this team has to cut players and is unlikely to compete for a SB this year. They obviously will want to win games though. They could also take a flyer on a late round QB this year in the draft, but I think the smarter play is to fill the other holes in this roster and wait until next year to see if another draft pick is warranted.

 

I believe Bowles and Arians both think highly of Trask based on comments (including recent ones by Bruce) and expected the staff to give him a better shot at winning the backup QB role than I think the prior offensive staff gave. I don't buy into the stuff that Claude told Scott. We'll see.

 
Posted : Feb. 16, 2023 5:56 pm
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Posted by: @bucharbour

I believe Bowles and Arians both think highly of Trask based on comments (including recent ones by Bruce) and expected the staff to give him a better shot at winning the backup QB role than I think the prior offensive staff gave. I don't buy into the stuff that Claude told Scott. We'll see.

Tried to edit this, but the edit feature seems to be time now. I meant a better chance at the starting role than the last staff gave him to be the backup, as he wasn't going to play ahead of Brady no matter what.

 

 
Posted : Feb. 16, 2023 6:05 pm
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Posted by: @bucharbour

Posted by: @bucharbour

I believe Bowles and Arians both think highly of Trask based on comments (including recent ones by Bruce) and expected the staff to give him a better shot at winning the backup QB role than I think the prior offensive staff gave. I don't buy into the stuff that Claude told Scott. We'll see.

Tried to edit this, but the edit feature seems to be time now. I meant a better chance at the starting role than the last staff gave him to be the backup, as he wasn't going to play ahead of Brady no matter what.

 

It was always the plan for Trask to be the third string QB until Brady retired. If Brady had stayed retired last season, Trask would have been the starter. That was the Bucs plan.

 

 
Posted : Feb. 16, 2023 11:38 pm
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Who are the top tier-2 “cheap” veterans out there? Any with a connection to our new OC? 

 
Posted : Feb. 20, 2023 3:31 pm
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I think they bring Drew Lock in to compete with Trask 

 
Posted : Feb. 20, 2023 5:17 pm
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I would be ok with Lock  , big big arm , can throw on the move , scramble if need be , lots of size , and still only 26 , let him and Trask battle it out 

if they both stink draft a QB in 24

 
Posted : Feb. 20, 2023 10:46 pm
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Seahawks Color Analyst Dave Wyman believes that Dave Canales will push hard for QB Drew Lock

 
Posted : Feb. 21, 2023 9:03 pm
Bucharbour
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Lock would certainly fit the type of vet QB they could bring in. I would still give Trask an edge over Lock if I were the team. He's never started, so you can't go through this season without giving him a shot. Lock should be "competition" for camp, but should be the back-up during the season, unless or until Trask proves he can't play in this league, which I seriously doubt will be the case. It doesn't do this franchise any favors to not find out this year, when you're sucking up cap hits, whether or not Trask can be the guy going forward. You need to know entering next year's draft.

 

 
Posted : Feb. 22, 2023 7:13 am
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Posted by: @bucharbour

Lock would certainly fit the type of vet QB they could bring in. I would still give Trask an edge over Lock if I were the team. He's never started, so you can't go through this season without giving him a shot. Lock should be "competition" for camp, but should be the back-up during the season, unless or until Trask proves he can't play in this league, which I seriously doubt will be the case. It doesn't do this franchise any favors to not find out this year, when you're sucking up cap hits, whether or not Trask can be the guy going forward. You need to know entering next year's draft.

 

If Lock comes in he would be the favorite because of his familiarity with Canales.   Lock has had starting experience.     If Lock is going to remain a backup, he might as well stay in Seattle.  If Canales brings him in, it's to have at least a 50% chance to start.  

 

 
Posted : Feb. 22, 2023 12:18 pm
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He knows the system and he’s a free agent

still young , tremendous arm 

 
Posted : Feb. 22, 2023 12:28 pm
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Posted by: @pennywise

He knows the system

Serious question, why are you saying Lock knows the system?  Has Canales come out and said he will be running the same system Waldron ran? They only worked together for two years, while Canales was in Seattle's organization for over a decade. He's not married to Waldron's system based on his career.

Don't get me wrong, I hope he does - as I like what Waldron did in Seattle.

 
Posted : Feb. 22, 2023 12:39 pm
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He likes to run the ball , Bowles likes to run the ball 

I don’t see him coming in and doing the complete opposite of what’s he been around 

you won’t be seen any QB on the Bucs throwing 700 times a year like Brady did this past year 

 

guess will have to wait and see

 
Posted : Feb. 22, 2023 1:22 pm
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Posted by: @pennywise

He likes to run the ball

Everybody "likes" to run the ball. He's been a QB coach and Passing Game Coordinator over the last five seasons, so I suspect he "likes" to pass the ball too.

 

Posted by: @pennywise

I don’t see him coming in and doing the complete opposite of what’s he been around

Seattle ranked 23rd in Rushing attempts and 15th in Passing attempts last season. Seattle hasn't been running the ball like they did a decade ago the last few seasons.

Waldron is a creative playcaller, hopefully Canales is the same.

 

Posted by: @pennywise

you won’t be seen any QB on the Bucs throwing 700 times a year like Brady did this past year

Let's hope not. Hopefully the team will be able to move the ball and score early when the opposing defenders aren't calling out what is coming, unlike when your unemployed buddy was running the show. Hell, he couldn't even get a college OC job - losing out to Notre Dame's TE coach.

 
Posted : Feb. 22, 2023 1:43 pm
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