Messaging from coaches gets stale, especially when you don't win. Bowles has 7 years with the team. An entire career for most players on his defense.
Diaby wanted more action, less walk throughs
Hall wanted his chance outside:
"You’re not going to get stuck into the monotony,” Hall said. “I’m really grateful, coming from the scheme I was in. Similarly, you get to do a lot of things that you might not be allowed to do on other teams. The blitzes and stunts and just being dialed in that way is really rewarding and really fun to play for.”
When the message gets stale on defense the defense collapses because NFL defense is everyone doing their role well.
Hall was tired of being pushed inside.
Not sure Bowles at 60+ can overcome the "monotony" (and other things) that led to the collapse
Honestly and I know it’s easy to pile on but the Bowles hate but one of two things will happen
1) the team quit on Bowles last year and will continue to be rudderless, Bucs will miss playoffs yet again
2) the offense bounces back led by Robinson play calling and a baker bounce back and Bucs return to playoffs
you’ll notice no mention of Bowles defense in the positive scenario
Bowles should thank his lucky stars that he still has a coaching gig after last season. When you listen to the things players and others were saying about last season, it all points to a poor head coach not having control over the team and poor execution when it mattered most by the players on defense - which happens to be the same side of the ball that he is responsible for.
Of all the things that occurred last year, a good portion of them I could let roll off my back as just a poor season. The unforgivable sin for Bowles that I simply cannot overlook was the reported lack of actual man-on-man practices versus the overvalued walkthroughs. That did it for me with Bowles. You cannot simulate real life, real time football. Field drills and pads on pads matter in a league of professionals like the NFL. Bowles has been around long enough to know that. The turd can't be flushed soon enough for my liking.
I said after the season that getting over the losing streak is not just a matter of Xs and Os. You don't just make adjustments and move on. It takes its toll on the psyche of the players and that can't just be removed with a pep talk or a new assistant coach. The bad taste doesn't go away that fast.
Evans didn't get over it. That's why he left. It's about the feelings down deep in your gut. That's the hardest part to get over, and Evans couldn't forget. Like your significant other cheated on you. It may be logical to think it's over and done with, but it's not that easy to just forget about it and move on. Don't let anybody on the Bucs pretend they aren't still feeling the gut punch. Not Lavonte. Not Mayfield. Nobody who was here in 2025 has moved on. They may have moved on to another team, but they haven't moved on from what happened.
With the draft, a new training camp, and preseason hope springs eternal in the NFL. The team is excited, the fans are hyped up, it's a new day. That's the NFL. Every fall the team and fans are ready to take on another season. Maybe they'll turn things around. Maybe they won't feel that gut punch anymore. Or maybe they will and the only way to move on is to move on from Todd Bowles.
Honestly and I know it’s easy to pile on but the Bowles hate but one of two things will happen
1) the team quit on Bowles last year and will continue to be rudderless, Bucs will miss playoffs yet again
2) the offense bounces back led by Robinson play calling and a baker bounce back and Bucs return to playoffs
you’ll notice no mention of Bowles defense in the positive scenario
But yet the defense wins us games.
Honestly and I know it’s easy to pile on but the Bowles hate but one of two things will happen
1) the team quit on Bowles last year and will continue to be rudderless, Bucs will miss playoffs yet again
2) the offense bounces back led by Robinson play calling and a baker bounce back and Bucs return to playoffs
you’ll notice no mention of Bowles defense in the positive scenario
Yeah, it's no coincidence that Bowles best record came when he had the 4th scoring offense led by Duuuuuuuuuval.
Honestly and I know it’s easy to pile on but the Bowles hate but one of two things will happen
1) the team quit on Bowles last year and will continue to be rudderless, Bucs will miss playoffs yet again
2) the offense bounces back led by Robinson play calling and a baker bounce back and Bucs return to playoffs
you’ll notice no mention of Bowles defense in the positive scenario
Yeah, it's no coincidence that Bowles best record came when he had the 4th scoring offense led by Duuuuuuuuuval.
Also not a coincidence we played a competitive second game when the OC didn’t muck up the wild card round.
Seems like a trend with Duval. ETN and Tuten combined for 14 carries for 158 yards. Why only 14 carries? 37 passes called and 2 jet sweeps. Must have been the defenses fault.
Also not a coincidence…
…that the better HC was in the playoffs last season, while the other HC’s team quit on him down the stretch.
Good call, Glazers.
Really worked out well!
The 2-7 finish to the 2025 season was unacceptable and an epic failure by all three phases of the game, and that's on the HC.
Honestly and I know it’s easy to pile on but the Bowles hate but one of two things will happen
1) the team quit on Bowles last year and will continue to be rudderless, Bucs will miss playoffs yet again
2) the offense bounces back led by Robinson play calling and a baker bounce back and Bucs return to playoffs
you’ll notice no mention of Bowles defense in the positive scenario
Yeah, it's no coincidence that Bowles best record came when he had the 4th scoring offense led by Duuuuuuuuuval.
Also not a coincidence we played a competitive second game when the OC didn’t muck up the wild card round.
Seems like a trend with Duval. ETN and Tuten combined for 14 carries for 158 yards. Why only 14 carries? 37 passes called and 2 jet sweeps. Must have been the defenses fault.
First, the RB's didn't combine for 158 yards. The entire fuggin' team didn't run for 158 yards. Second, the $275M QB and his 30 QBR was the biggest culprit in the loss.
I bet it really burns you up that the guy you've spent years telling everyone was overrated won more games (13) in his first season as a HC than Todd Bowles (10) has in his entire 8-year career. That's all assuming you have a modicum of shame, which isn't looking like a good assumption.
But sure, every win was the defense and every loss was on the offense. Todd Bowles' defense is the secret sauce to this team winning football games, even though in seven years as the guy calling the defense, his scoring unit has been better than the offense only twice.
The Glazers didn't want two regime changes at the same time on two continents.
That's why this is a lame duck year. They couldn't be bothered by changing head coaches.
That's why Jason Licht is still employed as well as Bowles. Next off-season everybody goes.
Honestly and I know it’s easy to pile on but the Bowles hate but one of two things will happen
1) the team quit on Bowles last year and will continue to be rudderless, Bucs will miss playoffs yet again
2) the offense bounces back led by Robinson play calling and a baker bounce back and Bucs return to playoffs
you’ll notice no mention of Bowles defense in the positive scenario
But yet the defense wins us games.
Points per Game:
2020 - OPG 30.8, DPG 22.2
2021 - OPG 30.1, DPG 20.8
2022 - OPG 18.1, DPG 21.1
so in the Brady era, clearly lived and died by the offense. Defense showed up and out in the playoff run in 2020 and would argue carried the team to playoffs in 2022
2023 - OPG 20.5, DPG 19.1
2024 - OPG 29.5, DPG 22.6
2025 - OPG 22.4, DPG 24.2
what do we notice in the Mayfield era? Looks like defense has gotten progressively worse, no?
Could argue 2023 the defense was solid but what happened since?
Bowles can overcome this by getting the fudge out of the way. NO interference on offense and let his coaches coach. Bowles job is to be THE head coach and the job of a head coach is to manage the entire team not just look at his play sheet for defensive blitz calls.
Bowles has the mindset of a DC still and not that of a HC who is in charge. This is why he should give up play calling so he can focus on being a manger of the entire team.
Bowles can overcome this by getting the fudge out of the way. NO interference on offense and let his coaches coach. Bowles job is to be THE head coach and the job of a head coach is to manage the entire team not just look at his play sheet for defensive blitz calls.
Bowles has the mindset of a DC still and not that of a HC who is in charge. This is why he should give up play calling so he can focus on being a manger of the entire team.
well yeah that is obvious
i was watching the first panthers game with my 75 year old mother and even she called the TD before half time without the safety back.
so if baby boomer non football educated elderly women can pick apart Bowles defenses, i am not sure how the fuck we are taking this team serious when you have Bowles who is doing the job of both head coach and defensive coordinator.
We are destined to fail
Honestly and I know it’s easy to pile on but the Bowles hate but one of two things will happen
1) the team quit on Bowles last year and will continue to be rudderless, Bucs will miss playoffs yet again
2) the offense bounces back led by Robinson play calling and a baker bounce back and Bucs return to playoffs
you’ll notice no mention of Bowles defense in the positive scenario
But yet the defense wins us games.
Points per Game:
2020 - OPG 30.8, DPG 22.2
2021 - OPG 30.1, DPG 20.8
2022 - OPG 18.1, DPG 21.1
so in the Brady era, clearly lived and died by the offense. Defense showed up and out in the playoff run in 2020 and would argue carried the team to playoffs in 2022
2023 - OPG 20.5, DPG 19.1
2024 - OPG 29.5, DPG 22.6
2025 - OPG 22.4, DPG 24.2
what do we notice in the Mayfield era? Looks like defense has gotten progressively worse, no?
Could argue 2023 the defense was solid but what happened since?
Defense has gotten worse because the talent has gotten worse. Hall, Braswell and Kancey are misses with premium picks.
The defense has bailed out the offense numerous times and people pretend it didn’t happen.