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Amazing game last night when he was said to be only good in run support. Jets got him for cheap...

Big miss from Licht... happy for the kid tho

 
Posted : Sep. 12, 2023 10:53 am
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he triggered a season long contract incentive for interceptions in ONE game lol

 
Posted : Sep. 12, 2023 10:57 am
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can't win them all

the Bucs ran it back with the 2020 squad and maintained all starters in 2021 - that alone is a kudos for Jason for not fixing what wasn't broken and we ended up 13-4 with only injuries (Godwin, Wirfs) stopping us from a potential repeat

in 2022, they had to make some difficult calls and the perceived drop off from Whitehead to Edwards was not as daunting with Whitehead getting 2 years, 14.5 million from the Jets

i dont fault for Jason for that.  Some want to say the Jensen signing was bad.  no it wasn't.  That's Bradys center and there was no choice.  Lenny was Brady's RB no choice.

 

i was a little ticked he didnt try and bring back Suh and JPP but obviously those two guys have little if any left in the tank given their employment the last 2 seasons.  Hicks, Gage, and Julio were ass signings - albeit i was pro Julio signing. 

 

 

 
Posted : Sep. 12, 2023 11:27 am
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Posted by: @badabingbucs

can't win them all

the Bucs ran it back with the 2020 squad and maintained all starters in 2021 - that alone is a kudos for Jason for not fixing what wasn't broken and we ended up 13-4 with only injuries (Godwin, Wirfs) stopping us from a potential repeat

in 2022, they had to make some difficult calls and the perceived drop off from Whitehead to Edwards was not as daunting with Whitehead getting 2 years, 14.5 million from the Jets

i dont fault for Jason for that.  Some want to say the Jensen signing was bad.  no it wasn't.  That's Bradys center and there was no choice.  Lenny was Brady's RB no choice.

 

i was a little ticked he didnt try and bring back Suh and JPP but obviously those two guys have little if any left in the tank given their employment the last 2 seasons.  Hicks, Gage, and Julio were ass signings - albeit i was pro Julio signing. 

 

 

 

WTF do you mean no choice? They had a pretty damn clear choice, especially after they already drafted Jensen's replacement. They found money for Russell Gage but not for a homegrown player who sold out his body for the Bucs to win the Super bowl. 

 

 
Posted : Sep. 12, 2023 2:43 pm
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Some want to say the Jensen signing was bad.  no it wasn't.  That's Bradys center and there was no choice. 

 

JC's head exploding lol.

 

I agree on Jensen, he's definitely coming back so no fault to Licht for that

 

 
Posted : Sep. 12, 2023 3:32 pm
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Whitehead is definitely better than Neal in my eyes, lays the wood and a pretty good cover guy

 
Posted : Sep. 12, 2023 8:13 pm
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Posted by: @badabingbucs

can't win them all

the Bucs ran it back with the 2020 squad and maintained all starters in 2021 - that alone is a kudos for Jason for not fixing what wasn't broken and we ended up 13-4 with only injuries (Godwin, Wirfs) stopping us from a potential repeat

in 2022, they had to make some difficult calls and the perceived drop off from Whitehead to Edwards was not as daunting with Whitehead getting 2 years, 14.5 million from the Jets

i dont fault for Jason for that.  Some want to say the Jensen signing was bad.  no it wasn't.  That's Bradys center and there was no choice.  Lenny was Brady's RB no choice.

 

i was a little ticked he didnt try and bring back Suh and JPP but obviously those two guys have little if any left in the tank given their employment the last 2 seasons.  Hicks, Gage, and Julio were ass signings - albeit i was pro Julio signing. 

 

 

 

WTF do you mean no choice? They had a pretty damn clear choice, especially after they already drafted Jensen's replacement. They found money for Russell Gage but not for a homegrown player who sold out his body for the Bucs to win the Super bowl. 

 

 

You don't think Brady had demands on Jensen and fournette and Julio? Brady had alot of say in who we signed (gronk,ab) Sure he probably didn't get involved in every facet but those 5 players for sure had Brady's hands all over it

 
Posted : Sep. 12, 2023 9:31 pm
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Posted by: @badabingbucs

can't win them all

the Bucs ran it back with the 2020 squad and maintained all starters in 2021 - that alone is a kudos for Jason for not fixing what wasn't broken and we ended up 13-4 with only injuries (Godwin, Wirfs) stopping us from a potential repeat

in 2022, they had to make some difficult calls and the perceived drop off from Whitehead to Edwards was not as daunting with Whitehead getting 2 years, 14.5 million from the Jets

i dont fault for Jason for that.  Some want to say the Jensen signing was bad.  no it wasn't.  That's Bradys center and there was no choice.  Lenny was Brady's RB no choice.

 

i was a little ticked he didnt try and bring back Suh and JPP but obviously those two guys have little if any left in the tank given their employment the last 2 seasons.  Hicks, Gage, and Julio were ass signings - albeit i was pro Julio signing. 

 

 

 

WTF do you mean no choice? They had a pretty damn clear choice, especially after they already drafted Jensen's replacement. They found money for Russell Gage but not for a homegrown player who sold out his body for the Bucs to win the Super bowl. 

 

 

You don't think Brady had demands on Jensen and fournette and Julio? Brady had alot of say in who we signed (gronk,ab) Sure he probably didn't get involved in every facet but those 5 players for sure had Brady's hands all over it

 

I'm not buying that Jensen was a make or break factor in Brady coming back. Licht signed him to a big contract in 2018 so he obviously had some infatuation with him. It was a really stupid investment and this whole thing could have been avoided if they had just jumped the Chiefs to draft Humphrey. 

 

 
Posted : Sep. 13, 2023 7:59 am
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Posted by: @badabingbucs

can't win them all

the Bucs ran it back with the 2020 squad and maintained all starters in 2021 - that alone is a kudos for Jason for not fixing what wasn't broken and we ended up 13-4 with only injuries (Godwin, Wirfs) stopping us from a potential repeat

in 2022, they had to make some difficult calls and the perceived drop off from Whitehead to Edwards was not as daunting with Whitehead getting 2 years, 14.5 million from the Jets

i dont fault for Jason for that.  Some want to say the Jensen signing was bad.  no it wasn't.  That's Bradys center and there was no choice.  Lenny was Brady's RB no choice.

 

i was a little ticked he didnt try and bring back Suh and JPP but obviously those two guys have little if any left in the tank given their employment the last 2 seasons.  Hicks, Gage, and Julio were ass signings - albeit i was pro Julio signing. 

 

 

 

WTF do you mean no choice? They had a pretty damn clear choice, especially after they already drafted Jensen's replacement. They found money for Russell Gage but not for a homegrown player who sold out his body for the Bucs to win the Super bowl. 

 

 

You don't think Brady had demands on Jensen and fournette and Julio? Brady had alot of say in who we signed (gronk,ab) Sure he probably didn't get involved in every facet but those 5 players for sure had Brady's hands all over it

 

I'm not buying that Jensen was a make or break factor in Brady coming back. Licht signed him to a big contract in 2018 so he obviously had some infatuation with him. It was a really stupid investment and this whole thing could have been avoided if they had just jumped the Chiefs to draft Humphrey. 

 

 

JC shows he is disconnected from reality (in bold) and then DOUBLES DOWN ON THE FANTASY WORLD APPROACH by revealing that his opinion ON THIS ISSUE is not about this issue, as it happened, it is driven by THE PAST  ..  his views of Licht, Jensen and the past draft lol ("this whole thing could have been avoided if they had just jumped the Chiefs to draft Humphrey.")

 

 
Posted : Sep. 13, 2023 9:47 am
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trading up, no less

 

:-)

 

NO WAY a GM whose SIGNATURE MOVE is bringing everyone back . . is going to dump Jensen, the heart/soul of the line

 

CAN YOU IMAGINE BRADY GETTIGN SACKED AND INJURED AND OUT because someone beat Jensen's cheaper replacement?

 

 

Fantasy land JC

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Posted : Sep. 13, 2023 9:48 am
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Posted by: @jc5100

Posted by: @badabingbucs

Posted by: @jc5100

Posted by: @badabingbucs

can't win them all

the Bucs ran it back with the 2020 squad and maintained all starters in 2021 - that alone is a kudos for Jason for not fixing what wasn't broken and we ended up 13-4 with only injuries (Godwin, Wirfs) stopping us from a potential repeat

in 2022, they had to make some difficult calls and the perceived drop off from Whitehead to Edwards was not as daunting with Whitehead getting 2 years, 14.5 million from the Jets

i dont fault for Jason for that.  Some want to say the Jensen signing was bad.  no it wasn't.  That's Bradys center and there was no choice.  Lenny was Brady's RB no choice.

 

i was a little ticked he didnt try and bring back Suh and JPP but obviously those two guys have little if any left in the tank given their employment the last 2 seasons.  Hicks, Gage, and Julio were ass signings - albeit i was pro Julio signing. 

 

 

 

WTF do you mean no choice? They had a pretty damn clear choice, especially after they already drafted Jensen's replacement. They found money for Russell Gage but not for a homegrown player who sold out his body for the Bucs to win the Super bowl. 

 

 

You don't think Brady had demands on Jensen and fournette and Julio? Brady had alot of say in who we signed (gronk,ab) Sure he probably didn't get involved in every facet but those 5 players for sure had Brady's hands all over it

 

I'm not buying that Jensen was a make or break factor in Brady coming back. Licht signed him to a big contract in 2018 so he obviously had some infatuation with him. It was a really stupid investment and this whole thing could have been avoided if they had just jumped the Chiefs to draft Humphrey. 

 

 

You dont think the QB that was calling the shots, made us sign a crack head to play WR; get his buddy out of retirement at TE; would have a say in Jensen coming back.

 

Brady came back on that Sunday and within hours we saw Jensen back.  It was obvious.  Plus, we had back to hack arguably the best seasons in our franchsie history (both 2020 and 2021 were top 5 seasons in this franchises history) with Brady playing MVP caliber and you are not going to bring back the center?  

 

 
Posted : Sep. 13, 2023 2:50 pm
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Jensen telling the story of Brady calling him to say hey lets run it back

 

https://www.tampabay.com/sports/bucs/2022/03/15/tom-bradys-phone-call-icing-on-cake-for-bucs-center-ryan-jensen/

 
Posted : Sep. 13, 2023 4:48 pm
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I thought Jensen was on his old contract the year we ran it back (the year we let Whitehead go) then signed an extension last year...

So Whitehead was gone before Jensen got his new (awful) deal.

And we can mock JC (whom I disagree with plenty) all we like but Licht is notorious for moving up... he just didn't have any interest in Humphrey. He wanted Trask (obviously speculation but Bucs love to draft Florida college players).

And Hainsey is solid enough as a later pick I'm guessing he foolishly didn't see a big drop off between the Humphrey and Hainsey.

Whitehead only getting 7m a year and letting him walk for that is insane to me...

 
Posted : Sep. 13, 2023 9:38 pm
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Posted by: @firebowles2023

Whitehead only getting 7m a year and letting him walk for that is insane to me...

Yep.

 

 
Posted : Sep. 14, 2023 9:25 am
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Posted by: @firebowles2023

I thought Jensen was on his old contract the year we ran it back (the year we let Whitehead go) then signed an extension last year...

So Whitehead was gone before Jensen got his new (awful) deal.

Both Jensen & Whitehead signed their Free Agent deals in March of 2022.  They were both on the team for the 2020 Superbowl and "ran it back" in 2021.

I don't fault the GM for letting Whitehead walk (you can't keep everyone forever) or resigning Jensen if it was contingent upon Brady's return - which it pretty clearly was. Brady was in limbo about coming back already. I don't think Brady returns if he knows he'll be working with a first-year Center, regardless of what the Red Board GM believes.

 
Posted : Sep. 14, 2023 10:18 am
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