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You’ve seen one game and it was a game with very different halves. 

So, what’s their record through October? What’s their record after the Bills game?

Are they more the team of yesterdays first half or yesterdays second half?

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Posted : Sep. 11, 2023 7:28 am
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I think they'll be 3-4 through October, which is your question.  That's no reason to panic though, as that 3-4 could be on the way to 9-8 or 10-7.  A lot of games will be tough but winnable games like the one they just played. The parity in the NFL is here in full force this year. 

For the sake of argument pencil in a loss to Eagles, Niners and Bills.  We have one win in the books.   13 other games.  None of those 13 games look easy, but they're winnable.  

So start with 1-3, one win in the books, losses to Eagles, Niners and Bills.

Go 4-2 in the division, lose at NO and one other somewhere. 

Beat the Bears and Titans at home.  Those are "should win" games. 2-0.

Tough Home Games- Lions and Jags.  We have the Lions after the bye and they're at home so....  1-1.

Road games- Houston, Indy and Packers.  None will be easy, but the Packers may be a bit of a mirage.  But they're on the road so 1-2.  

Total:  9-8. 

So point is that a 3-4 start could be consistent with a 9-8 finish.  Of course, nothing goes as scripted in the NFL.  Just making that point. 

 

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Posted : Sep. 11, 2023 10:05 am
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Week 1 @Vikings - WIN

Week 2 vs Bears - WIN

week 3 vs Eagles - LOSS

Week 4 @ Saints - LOSS

Week 5 vs Lions - WIN

Week 6 vs Falcons - WIN

Week 7 - @Buffalo - LOSS

4-3

 

and as Traskforce has suggested, 3-4 wins is enough to keep us in running

 

we have 4 games with the AFC South which are all winnable games.  @ 49ers is a loss.

We have 4 division games which are all winnable games. and @ packers which is anyones guess

 

 

 

 
Posted : Sep. 11, 2023 10:53 am
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3-4 or 4-3 seems reasonable to me. Staying healthy while the young rookies show improvement as the Bucs approach mid season. 

 
Posted : Sep. 11, 2023 11:25 am
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I have us at 5-2 because I'm not impressed with Saints....yet. However, the Lions may surprise.

 
Posted : Sep. 11, 2023 11:34 am
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Posted by: @kermit56

I have us at 5-2 because I'm not impressed with Saints....yet. However, the Lions may surprise.

 

I mean we are all riding high off this win but let’s be honest. It took 3 turnovers and a 57 yard field goal to win the game

Baker was clutch when needed so ain’t complaining but can’t have a repeat of that first half offense many games and win. Probably lost 9/10 games playing like that. 

 

 
Posted : Sep. 11, 2023 12:33 pm
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I chose November because of the parallels to last year

 

Last year was a team with Brady that Arians (laughably) called the best roster he'd seen. That team started 2-0 but by November were 3-5 because they couldn't beat any competitive team and lost badly to the lowly Panthers, as I recall.

The posted predictions so far have this team as better or roughly the same as last year?

Maybe, but they have a similar set up this year.  The Vikings should be legit, so big win but the first game is hard to evaluate (like Dallas last year, a game we won with RUNNING lol).  Going forward to November though they have Bills, Lions and Eagles and then, for sake of argument, Bears, Saints and Falcons as potentially weaker teams (hard to say)

 
Posted : Sep. 11, 2023 12:39 pm
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Posted by: @kermit56

I have us at 5-2 because I'm not impressed with Saints....yet. However, the Lions may surprise.

 

I mean we are all riding high off this win but let’s be honest. It took 3 turnovers and a 57 yard field goal to win the game

Baker was clutch when needed so ain’t complaining but can’t have a repeat of that first half offense many games and win. Probably lost 9/10 games playing like that. 

 

 

the part in bold is key.  They even gave us a 1st down instead of a field goal

 

 
Posted : Sep. 11, 2023 12:40 pm
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4-2 is a possibility. Doubtful, but possible. 

So is 2-4. 

I’ll split it down the middle and say 3-3. 

 
Posted : Sep. 11, 2023 12:45 pm
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Posted by: @badabingbucs

Posted by: @kermit56

I have us at 5-2 because I'm not impressed with Saints....yet. However, the Lions may surprise.

 

I mean we are all riding high off this win but let’s be honest. It took 3 turnovers and a 57 yard field goal to win the game

Baker was clutch when needed so ain’t complaining but can’t have a repeat of that first half offense many games and win. Probably lost 9/10 games playing like that. 

 

We will see. If I am correct though, will I get your kudos?

 

 
Posted : Sep. 11, 2023 1:07 pm
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Posted by: @kermit56

Posted by: @badabingbucs

Posted by: @kermit56

I have us at 5-2 because I'm not impressed with Saints....yet. However, the Lions may surprise.

 

I mean we are all riding high off this win but let’s be honest. It took 3 turnovers and a 57 yard field goal to win the game

Baker was clutch when needed so ain’t complaining but can’t have a repeat of that first half offense many games and win. Probably lost 9/10 games playing like that. 

 

We will see. If I am correct though, will I get your kudos?

 

 

would love nothing more than that!  

 

to be honest, im confident after yesterday win!  hell, why can't we beat the Eagles?  to me the only sure fire losses are Buffalo and SF but i am sure if we lay a dud against the Bears, you can see my playoff bound hopes quickly change lol 

 

 
Posted : Sep. 11, 2023 1:31 pm
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Posted by: @bucsbits

I chose November because of the parallels to last year

 

Last year was a team with Brady that Arians (laughably) called the best roster he'd seen. That team started 2-0 but by November were 3-5 because they couldn't beat any competitive team and lost badly to the lowly Panthers, as I recall.

The posted predictions so far have this team as better or roughly the same as last year?

Maybe, but they have a similar set up this year.  The Vikings should be legit, so big win but the first game is hard to evaluate (like Dallas last year, a game we won with RUNNING lol).  Going forward to November though they have Bills, Lions and Eagles and then, for sake of argument, Bears, Saints and Falcons as potentially weaker teams (hard to say)

 

well that was clearly "coach talk" as clearly the 2022 team on paper was not as good as the teams that boasted Gronk and AB.  To me, the 2021 Bucs which irry similar to the 2020 Bucs were the most talented teams.

the 2022 team, still, should have performed way better than they did.

 

if we revisit, they started out a hot 2-0 despite the offense playing like crap. I would say most people probably penciled in the season going like this with the expectation we would be slightly worse than the power house we were in 2021 and likely closer to the 2020 squad. 

 

week 1 @ Dallas - WIN.  Actual result WIN

Week 2 @New Orleans - LOSS.  Actual result WIN

Week 3 VS Packers - WIN.  Actual result LOSS

Week 4 vs Chiefs - LOSS.  Actual result LOSS

Week 5 Vs Falcons.  WIN.  Actual result WIN

Week 6 @PITT.  WIN.  Actual result LOSS

Week 7 @CAR.  WIN.  Actual result LOSS

Week 8 VS BAL.  WIN.  Actual result LOSS

 

so heading into November, most would have penciled in Bucs at 6-2 and instead they were 3-5.  The wheels fell off quickly, particularly with back to back losses to Pitt and Carolina.

to finish off year

Week 9 vs RAMS.  LOSS.  Actual result WIN

Week 10 vs SEA.  WIN.  Actual result WIN

week 11 @CLE WIN.  Actual result LOSS

Week 12 vs SAINTS.  WIN (POTENTIALLY LOSS).  Actual result WIN

Week 13 @SF LOSS.  Actual result LOSS

Week 14 @VS CIN WIN (POTENTIALLY LOSS).  Actual result LOSS

Week 15 @ARZ. WIN.  Actual result WIN

Week 16 - CAR.  WIN.  Actual result WIN

Week 17 @ATL - WIN.  Actual result LOSS

so would it have been unreasonable to expect 11-13 WINS given the roster make up.  No.  Actually result was 8-9 AND loss in first round of playoffs.

 

hell we were 2-0 then proceeded to lose 10 out of the next 16 games.  Atrocious.

 

so i'd like to see us beat the Bears in a game we should be favored in and see how we do against a super bowl contender (Eagles) at home.  Next week will be telling.  A loss and we are likely that 5-7 win team.  A win, and we got a shot.

 

 

 

 

 
Posted : Sep. 11, 2023 1:41 pm
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so i'd like to see us beat the Bears in a game we should be favored in and see how we do against a super bowl contender (Eagles) at home.  Next week will be telling.  A loss and we are likely that 5-7 win team.  A win, and we got a shot.

agreed

 
Posted : Sep. 11, 2023 1:43 pm
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Posted by: @badabingbucs

Next week will be telling

This right here. 

This should be a game we win handily. 

 
Posted : Sep. 11, 2023 1:47 pm
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Posted by: @badabingbucs

so i'd like to see us beat the Bears in a game we should be favored in and see how we do against a super bowl contender (Eagles) at home.

Same here.

 

 
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