Remember that the contract was drawn up before Revis stepped on the practice field with that reconstructed ACL. Too team-friendly?
They are going to ask him to restructure his deal....he will say no...The Bucs will dance with the highest bidder and trade him, keep the 3rd round pick, pick up additonal picks this year and next year...And sign a quality Free Agent DB...That's the plan....they know having such a high priced player on the team that won't get you to the SB is a waste of cap space...The Bucs are 2 to 3 year away from contending for the NFC championship.... so why waste the money?
Why exactly would they ask him to restructure? If its too much, its too much.
I know...thats the catch...it would be foolish not to ask him to restructure his deal and they will approach him with a number that they know he will refuse...Both sides will win on this deal...Reavis will get to play for a contender and the Bucs can grab some players and draft picks....Reavis's agent and the Bucs have probably talked it over and come to an agreement ...it's practically a done deal...Bucs are doing a tap dance right now to keep the Maddenites in Tampa happy...He is gone...and wherever (Pats or Broncos) he goes he will be happy...
I think you are confusing "restructure" with "pay cut". While we have the ability to restructure his contract, all that does it change what years he would get paid what (and if we restructure, we will add guaranteed money). The only reason for us to do that would be if we had a trade lined up to send him to a contender...thats it...and they wouldnt ask him to do it until that was already in the works.Asking him to take less money is not a restructure, its a pay cut and his agent wont even return those calls.
yes...restructure = pay cut in this particular case...they know he will refuse...
If his agent talks him into taking a pay cut, he is the WORST agent to have ever lived. So you're banking on that?
re-read the thread
Revis would refuse a deal like $11-$12 mill signing and $3-4 mill base? with several years added? now way, he'd jump all over that because he is just on a 1 year deal now, right?
who would be stupid enough to offer a deal like that?
Smh...so the plan is to take a $16M deal (largely thought to be a bad one) and tack on years and guaranteed money? So glad our fans dont run the front office.
Revis would refuse a deal like $11-$12 mill signing and $3-4 mill base? with several years added? now way, he'd jump all over that because he is just on a 1 year deal now, right?
who would be stupid enough to offer a deal like that?
huh? I must misunderstand something, because I thought that would be a good deal for a team that wants to have an All-Pro corner for several years? Wouldn't that be like a $4-5million cap hit? I thought the Dolphins signed Grimes to a 4year $32 mill deal with about $16 guaranteed? Revis is way better than Grimes, right? Arent there a bunch of CBs at $7-8 million cap hits? Maybe I just misunderstand how the numbers work out, but I could easily see teams doing a deal like that with Revis.
Remember that the contract was drawn up before Revis stepped on the practice field with that reconstructed ACL. Too team-friendly?
They are going to ask him to restructure his deal....he will say no...The Bucs will dance with the highest bidder and trade him, keep the 3rd round pick, pick up additonal picks this year and next year...And sign a quality Free Agent DB...That's the plan....they know having such a high priced player on the team that won't get you to the SB is a waste of cap space...The Bucs are 2 to 3 year away from contending for the NFC championship.... so why waste the money?
Why exactly would they ask him to restructure? If its too much, its too much.
I know...thats the catch...it would be foolish not to ask him to restructure his deal and they will approach him with a number that they know he will refuse...Both sides will win on this deal...Reavis will get to play for a contender and the Bucs can grab some players and draft picks....Reavis's agent and the Bucs have probably talked it over and come to an agreement ...it's practically a done deal...Bucs are doing a tap dance right now to keep the Maddenites in Tampa happy...He is gone...and wherever (Pats or Broncos) he goes he will be happy...
I think you are confusing "restructure" with "pay cut". While we have the ability to restructure his contract, all that does it change what years he would get paid what (and if we restructure, we will add guaranteed money). The only reason for us to do that would be if we had a trade lined up to send him to a contender...thats it...and they wouldnt ask him to do it until that was already in the works.Asking him to take less money is not a restructure, its a pay cut and his agent wont even return those calls.
yes...restructure = pay cut in this particular case...they know he will refuse...
If his agent talks him into taking a pay cut, he is the WORST agent to have ever lived. So you're banking on that?
re-read the thread
I am, thats why I am confused. Within his contract we have the unilateral ability to restructure his deal (so I have heard from multiple sources). So we dont even have to ask him, we could just do it. He would say "no" to a pay cut.
Revis would refuse a deal like $11-$12 mill signing and $3-4 mill base? with several years added? now way, he'd jump all over that because he is just on a 1 year deal now, right?
who would be stupid enough to offer a deal like that?
huh? I must misunderstand something, because I thought that would be a good deal for a team that wants to have an All-Pro corner for several years? Wouldn't that be like a $4-5million cap hit? I thought the Dolphins signed Grimes to a 4year $32 mill deal with about $16 guaranteed? Revis is way better than Grimes, right? Arent there a bunch of CBs at $7-8 million cap hits? Maybe I just misunderstand how the numbers work out, but I could easily see teams doing a deal like that with Revis.
I'm sorry I mis-read.....Actually he would laugh at a $12 mill signing bonus with a $4 mill base salary...
Remember that the contract was drawn up before Revis stepped on the practice field with that reconstructed ACL. Too team-friendly?
They are going to ask him to restructure his deal....he will say no...The Bucs will dance with the highest bidder and trade him, keep the 3rd round pick, pick up additonal picks this year and next year...And sign a quality Free Agent DB...That's the plan....they know having such a high priced player on the team that won't get you to the SB is a waste of cap space...The Bucs are 2 to 3 year away from contending for the NFC championship.... so why waste the money?
Why exactly would they ask him to restructure? If its too much, its too much.
I know...thats the catch...it would be foolish not to ask him to restructure his deal and they will approach him with a number that they know he will refuse...Both sides will win on this deal...Reavis will get to play for a contender and the Bucs can grab some players and draft picks....Reavis's agent and the Bucs have probably talked it over and come to an agreement ...it's practically a done deal...Bucs are doing a tap dance right now to keep the Maddenites in Tampa happy...He is gone...and wherever (Pats or Broncos) he goes he will be happy...
I think you are confusing "restructure" with "pay cut". While we have the ability to restructure his contract, all that does it change what years he would get paid what (and if we restructure, we will add guaranteed money). The only reason for us to do that would be if we had a trade lined up to send him to a contender...thats it...and they wouldnt ask him to do it until that was already in the works.Asking him to take less money is not a restructure, its a pay cut and his agent wont even return those calls.
yes...restructure = pay cut in this particular case...they know he will refuse...
If his agent talks him into taking a pay cut, he is the WORST agent to have ever lived. So you're banking on that?
re-read the thread
I am, thats why I am confused. Within his contract we have the unilateral ability to restructure his deal (so I have heard from multiple sources). So we dont even have to ask him, we could just do it. He would say "no" to a pay cut.
I may be wrong...
I must misunderstand something
vinpossible.
Revis would refuse a deal like $11-$12 mill signing and $3-4 mill base? with several years added? now way, he'd jump all over that because he is just on a 1 year deal now, right?
who would be stupid enough to offer a deal like that?
huh? I must misunderstand something, because I thought that would be a good deal for a team that wants to have an All-Pro corner for several years? Wouldn't that be like a $4-5million cap hit? I thought the Dolphins signed Grimes to a 4year $32 mill deal with about $16 guaranteed? Revis is way better than Grimes, right? Arent there a bunch of CBs at $7-8 million cap hits? Maybe I just misunderstand how the numbers work out, but I could easily see teams doing a deal like that with Revis.
Revis would absolutely refuse that deal. Keep in mind he took a completely non guaranteed contract coming off an ACL injury. Now that he is back to all pro form, he doesnt have much reason to lower his take home cash.
Revis's contract is not guaranteed....he can be cut, but that doesn't preclude not asking him to redo the deal....and we can't just redo the deal without asking him...it's a year to year contract agreement @ $16 mill including roster bonuses
All of this back forth... Why?I say we keep him and call it a day.
Revis would refuse a deal like $11-$12 mill signing and $3-4 mill base? with several years added? now way, he'd jump all over that because he is just on a 1 year deal now, right?
who would be stupid enough to offer a deal like that?
huh? I must misunderstand something, because I thought that would be a good deal for a team that wants to have an All-Pro corner for several years? Wouldn't that be like a $4-5million cap hit? I thought the Dolphins signed Grimes to a 4year $32 mill deal with about $16 guaranteed? Revis is way better than Grimes, right? Arent there a bunch of CBs at $7-8 million cap hits? Maybe I just misunderstand how the numbers work out, but I could easily see teams doing a deal like that with Revis.
I'm sorry I mis-read.....Actually he would laugh at a $12 mill signing bonus with a $4 mill base salary...
oh, I guess that could be right but why would a guy on a $16 million ONE YEAR deal laugh at get $16 million this year plus some other years? I guess maybe but he has nothing past this year from the Bucs.
Revis would refuse a deal like $11-$12 mill signing and $3-4 mill base? with several years added? now way, he'd jump all over that because he is just on a 1 year deal now, right?
who would be stupid enough to offer a deal like that?
huh? I must misunderstand something, because I thought that would be a good deal for a team that wants to have an All-Pro corner for several years? Wouldn't that be like a $4-5million cap hit? I thought the Dolphins signed Grimes to a 4year $32 mill deal with about $16 guaranteed? Revis is way better than Grimes, right? Arent there a bunch of CBs at $7-8 million cap hits? Maybe I just misunderstand how the numbers work out, but I could easily see teams doing a deal like that with Revis.
Revis would absolutely refuse that deal. Keep in mind he took a completely non guaranteed contract coming off an ACL injury. Now that he is back to all pro form, he doesnt have much reason to lower his take home cash.
its the same take home cash plus more time though? that's the trade off, cap relief for more time.not a contract/cap guy so I could certainly be wrong
Revis would refuse a deal like $11-$12 mill signing and $3-4 mill base? with several years added? now way, he'd jump all over that because he is just on a 1 year deal now, right?
who would be stupid enough to offer a deal like that?
huh? I must misunderstand something, because I thought that would be a good deal for a team that wants to have an All-Pro corner for several years? Wouldn't that be like a $4-5million cap hit? I thought the Dolphins signed Grimes to a 4year $32 mill deal with about $16 guaranteed? Revis is way better than Grimes, right? Arent there a bunch of CBs at $7-8 million cap hits? Maybe I just misunderstand how the numbers work out, but I could easily see teams doing a deal like that with Revis.
I'm sorry I mis-read.....Actually he would laugh at a $12 mill signing bonus with a $4 mill base salary...
oh, I guess that could be right but why would a guy on a $16 million ONE YEAR deal laugh at get $16 million this year plus some other years? I guess maybe but he has nothing past this year from the Bucs.
you can't pay a guy a $12 mill signing each year....after one signing bonus, it all becomes salary....
Restructuring Revis would be difficult in my opinion as I'm not sure he'd agree to anything palatable to the Bucs....or any other team. The Bucs can't threaten to cut him if he doesn't agree because, if he's on the open market, he'll get a market value contract at the very least. If they keep him they've essentially guaranteed the guy $32 for the last two years and, going forward, he's going to cost 100% more than even the franchise number. I don't see the team holding a great deal of leverage at this point and I don't see where the unilateral move to a signing bonus helps the team. They don't need the cap space and all they'd do is push potential dead money into the future while still needing to give the guy $16 per year going forward.It comes down to whether the team wants to pay a CB $16mil at this point and we'll find out by March 13th I suppose.
Revis would refuse a deal like $11-$12 mill signing and $3-4 mill base? with several years added? now way, he'd jump all over that because he is just on a 1 year deal now, right?
who would be stupid enough to offer a deal like that?
huh? I must misunderstand something, because I thought that would be a good deal for a team that wants to have an All-Pro corner for several years? Wouldn't that be like a $4-5million cap hit? I thought the Dolphins signed Grimes to a 4year $32 mill deal with about $16 guaranteed? Revis is way better than Grimes, right? Arent there a bunch of CBs at $7-8 million cap hits? Maybe I just misunderstand how the numbers work out, but I could easily see teams doing a deal like that with Revis.
I'm sorry I mis-read.....Actually he would laugh at a $12 mill signing bonus with a $4 mill base salary...
oh, I guess that could be right but why would a guy on a $16 million ONE YEAR deal laugh at get $16 million this year plus some other years? I guess maybe but he has nothing past this year from the Bucs.
you can't pay a guy a $12 mill signing each year....after one signing bonus, it all becomes salary....
Oh, I see what you mean. Its the subsequent years, so it would have to be something like $12million signing and $8 mill per year ( or some high number less than $16 mill) for a number of years for it to make sense as a trade off (i.e., less top end money potential but guaranteed).
