So now the answer is, if you don't like it you have to go home and shower? This is what being equal means to a gay man such as yourself? Yep, that's absurd.So instead of trying to spin it into a situation that will never actually exist (players going home instead of showering at the stadium), how about you answer the question in an honest way? We both know why you won't. But let's see if you have the courage to try.
How can I answer that question when it's idiotic? You are basically calling a gay man a woman... That's just stupid. Two totally different things. If a gay man is equal to a woman then why do you have such a problem with them? Do you dislike women also?
Like I said, you're a very stupid person.I'm not calling a gay man a woman. I'm presenting an alternate scenario where one person is attracted to another person and they are forced to shower together whether both parties agree to it or not. You don't want to talk about this issue because it destroys your entire agenda. You can't force a woman to take a shower with a man, and you can't force a man to take a shower with a gay man. It's the exact same thing. If a woman took issue with being forced to shower with a man, would you say to her "what's the matter, it's not like he's going to rape you, get over it". No, you wouldn't. You're attempting to create different rules and different expectations because you're a gay man with an agenda. We get it, you're gay and your stance is perverse and has nothing to do with the actual NFL.
The only idiot with an agenda here is you with you're blatant gay bashing on the boards. You are saying put two men in a shower and then in another scenario put a man in a woman. Gay or not those are two totally different things. If anything it proves you are the one with an agenda here. I like how everyone that is okay with gay people are now gay according to you. Just because I like women and I don't hate gays doesn't mean I'm gay. You have a stupid warped logic.
So now the answer is, if you don't like it you have to go home and shower? This is what being equal means to a gay man such as yourself? Yep, that's absurd.So instead of trying to spin it into a situation that will never actually exist (players going home instead of showering at the stadium), how about you answer the question in an honest way? We both know why you won't. But let's see if you have the courage to try.
How can I answer that question when it's idiotic? You are basically calling a gay man a woman... That's just stupid. Two totally different things. If a gay man is equal to a woman then why do you have such a problem with them? Do you dislike women also?
Like I said, you're a very stupid person.I'm not calling a gay man a woman. I'm presenting an alternate scenario where one person is attracted to another person and they are forced to shower together whether both parties agree to it or not. You don't want to talk about this issue because it destroys your entire agenda. You can't force a woman to take a shower with a man, and you can't force a man to take a shower with a gay man. It's the exact same thing. If a woman took issue with being forced to shower with a man, would you say to her "what's the matter, it's not like he's going to rape you, get over it". No, you wouldn't. You're attempting to create different rules and different expectations because you're a gay man with an agenda. We get it, you're gay and your stance is perverse and has nothing to do with the actual NFL.
So as long as Michael Sam isn't attracted to you then there isn't an issue?In that case, I don't think you have anything to be worried about. Thread over, guys!
I presented an easy question to answer. You intentionally ignored it. Agenda exposed. Frauds detected. This is why I laugh at people like you, you so badly want to present yourself one way, yet ultimately it all comes crashing down. This is what happens when attempting to appease the PC crowd is your one and only goal.EXPOSED. Or did you want to honestly answer the question now?
I just want one of the three gay men in this thread to answer this question honestly.Do women have the right to question being forced to shower with a straight man? Let's see if one of the three gay men in this thread can directly answer this question.
If a woman got drafted by an NFL team, then she should have the freedom to use the facilities, or not use the facilities, as she sees fit. If a married guy on the team felt uncomfortable with her being in the shower, would you defend him or her?
Give me a scenario that actually has a chance of happening, and we can talk. Again, your initial reaction to my question was to twist it around into something different. You flat out refuse to answer the question because you know it will expose your illogical agenda. You and the other gay guy who "responded" to this question are very transparent. Case closed. A legitimate question was asked, and two gay men, instead of simply answering, attempted to twist it around into a question of their own. I think we've all seen enough. Agenda exposed.
Let's review. You asked: "Do women have the right to question being forced to shower with a straight man?"I answered: "If a woman got drafted by an NFL team, then she should have the freedom to use the facilities, or not use the facilities, as she sees fit."I directly provided you an answer, then presented one of my own. Did you not understand the answer? I can explain it for you.
So now the answer is, if you don't like it you have to go home and shower? This is what being equal means to a gay man such as yourself? Yep, that's absurd.So instead of trying to spin it into a situation that will never actually exist (players going home instead of showering at the stadium), how about you answer the question in an honest way? We both know why you won't. But let's see if you have the courage to try.
How can I answer that question when it's idiotic? You are basically calling a gay man a woman... That's just stupid. Two totally different things. If a gay man is equal to a woman then why do you have such a problem with them? Do you dislike women also?
Can't wait to read the answer to this
So now the answer is, if you don't like it you have to go home and shower? This is what being equal means to a gay man such as yourself? Yep, that's absurd.So instead of trying to spin it into a situation that will never actually exist (players going home instead of showering at the stadium), how about you answer the question in an honest way? We both know why you won't. But let's see if you have the courage to try.
How can I answer that question when it's idiotic? You are basically calling a gay man a woman... That's just stupid. Two totally different things. If a gay man is equal to a woman then why do you have such a problem with them? Do you dislike women also?
Like I said, you're a very stupid person.I'm not calling a gay man a woman. I'm presenting an alternate scenario where one person is attracted to another person and they are forced to shower together whether both parties agree to it or not. You don't want to talk about this issue because it destroys your entire agenda. You can't force a woman to take a shower with a man, and you can't force a man to take a shower with a gay man. It's the exact same thing. If a woman took issue with being forced to shower with a man, would you say to her "what's the matter, it's not like he's going to rape you, get over it". No, you wouldn't. You're attempting to create different rules and different expectations because you're a gay man with an agenda. We get it, you're gay and your stance is perverse and has nothing to do with the actual NFL.
No one forces anyone to shower. You can go home and take a shower. Do you live in video game land?
Do you honestly believe players go home to shower after the game? Considering it's you, I wouldn't be surprised. According to you players are never even naked in the locker room, right? What a naive child.
Is there a law stating that players cannot go home and shower?What a naive child.
I learn more and more stuff on The Red Board every day. Unfortunately, what I learn is some people have a lot more to learn than others.
So now the answer is, if you don't like it you have to go home and shower? This is what being equal means to a gay man such as yourself? Yep, that's absurd.So instead of trying to spin it into a situation that will never actually exist (players going home instead of showering at the stadium), how about you answer the question in an honest way? We both know why you won't. But let's see if you have the courage to try.
How can I answer that question when it's idiotic? You are basically calling a gay man a woman... That's just stupid. Two totally different things. If a gay man is equal to a woman then why do you have such a problem with them? Do you dislike women also?
Like I said, you're a very stupid person.I'm not calling a gay man a woman. I'm presenting an alternate scenario where one person is attracted to another person and they are forced to shower together whether both parties agree to it or not. You don't want to talk about this issue because it destroys your entire agenda. You can't force a woman to take a shower with a man, and you can't force a man to take a shower with a gay man. It's the exact same thing. If a woman took issue with being forced to shower with a man, would you say to her "what's the matter, it's not like he's going to rape you, get over it". No, you wouldn't. You're attempting to create different rules and different expectations because you're a gay man with an agenda. We get it, you're gay and your stance is perverse and has nothing to do with the actual NFL.
The only idiot with an agenda here is you with you're blatant gay bashing on the boards. You are saying put two men in a shower and then in another scenario put a man in a woman. Gay or not those are two totally different things. If anything it proves you are the one with an agenda here. I like how everyone that is okay with gay people are now gay according to you. Just because I like women and I don't hate gays doesn't mean I'm gay. You have a stupid warped logic.
HA! Now I'm gay bashing? The only surprise here is that it took you so long to pull the homophobe card. What a sad little girl. The two situations aren't different at all, they are exactly the same. Every single person involved with this thread knows that, including you. You'll never admit it because you'll be exposed as a fraud. News flash, everyone already knows you're a fraud. You're not hiding anything. ATTRACTION IS ATTRACTION. Nobody is claiming Sam will rape anyone, nobody is saying Sam will even touch someone. But those same questions wouldn't be asked of a woman who took issue with a man showering with her, and they shouldn't be asked in this scenario either. Anyone who's asking them has an agenda. PERIOD. EXPOSED. Next time just answer the question. You should have been smart enough to realize I posted it for a reason. I knew you wouldn't answer, and I knew why. Sorry nancy, you lose.
I just want one of the three gay men in this thread to answer this question honestly.Do women have the right to question being forced to shower with a straight man? Let's see if one of the three gay men in this thread can directly answer this question.
If a woman got drafted by an NFL team, then she should have the freedom to use the facilities, or not use the facilities, as she sees fit. If a married guy on the team felt uncomfortable with her being in the shower, would you defend him or her?
Give me a scenario that actually has a chance of happening, and we can talk. Again, your initial reaction to my question was to twist it around into something different. You flat out refuse to answer the question because you know it will expose your illogical agenda. You and the other gay guy who "responded" to this question are very transparent. Case closed. A legitimate question was asked, and two gay men, instead of simply answering, attempted to twist it around into a question of their own. I think we've all seen enough. Agenda exposed.
Let's review. You asked: "Do women have the right to question being forced to shower with a straight man?"I answered: "If a woman got drafted by an NFL team, then she should have the freedom to use the facilities, or not use the facilities, as she sees fit."I directly provided you an answer, then presented one of my own. Did you not understand the answer? I can explain it for you.
You didn't provide anything, you attempted to twist my question around to fit your agenda. We both know why. This is hilarious at this point. Two frauds have been exposed with one simple question. Gotta love that.
HA! Now I'm gay bashing? The only surprise here is that it took you so long to pull the homophobe card. What a sad little girl. The two situations aren't different at all, they are exactly the same. Every single person involved with this thread knows that, including you. You'll never admit it because you'll be exposed as a fraud. News flash, everyone already knows you're a fraud. You're not hiding anything. ATTRACTION IS ATTRACTION. Nobody is claiming Sam will rape anyone, nobody is saying Sam will even touch someone. But those same questions wouldn't be asked of a woman who took issue with a man showering with her, and they shouldn't be asked in this scenario either. Anyone who's asking them has an agenda. PERIOD. EXPOSED. Next time just answer the question. You should have been smart enough to realize I posted it for a reason. I knew you wouldn't answer, and I knew why. Sorry nancy, you lose.
TIL it's okay to shower with gay men as long as they are in the closet. However, if they are openly gay then it's not okay and you are gay for showering with them. Also showering with an openly gay man is the same thing as a man and woman showering together. Geez man like I said I learn from this board every day.
So now the answer is, if you don't like it you have to go home and shower? This is what being equal means to a gay man such as yourself? Yep, that's absurd.So instead of trying to spin it into a situation that will never actually exist (players going home instead of showering at the stadium), how about you answer the question in an honest way? We both know why you won't. But let's see if you have the courage to try.
How can I answer that question when it's idiotic? You are basically calling a gay man a woman... That's just stupid. Two totally different things. If a gay man is equal to a woman then why do you have such a problem with them? Do you dislike women also?
Like I said, you're a very stupid person.I'm not calling a gay man a woman. I'm presenting an alternate scenario where one person is attracted to another person and they are forced to shower together whether both parties agree to it or not. You don't want to talk about this issue because it destroys your entire agenda. You can't force a woman to take a shower with a man, and you can't force a man to take a shower with a gay man. It's the exact same thing. If a woman took issue with being forced to shower with a man, would you say to her "what's the matter, it's not like he's going to rape you, get over it". No, you wouldn't. You're attempting to create different rules and different expectations because you're a gay man with an agenda. We get it, you're gay and your stance is perverse and has nothing to do with the actual NFL.
No one forces anyone to shower. You can go home and take a shower. Do you live in video game land?
Do you honestly believe players go home to shower after the game? Considering it's you, I wouldn't be surprised. According to you players are never even naked in the locker room, right? What a naive child.
Is there a law stating that players cannot go home and shower?What a naive child.
If a man wants to shower with women at the gym, would you tell any woman who took offense to it that "she's free to go home and shower if she has such a problem with it"?This is all too easy.
There are some radical feminists that have argued that transsexuals (male to female) shouldnt be permitted to go into the women's bathrooms. But the courts have pretty much told those feminists tough s***.
HA! Now I'm gay bashing? The only surprise here is that it took you so long to pull the homophobe card. What a sad little girl. The two situations aren't different at all, they are exactly the same. Every single person involved with this thread knows that, including you. You'll never admit it because you'll be exposed as a fraud. News flash, everyone already knows you're a fraud. You're not hiding anything. ATTRACTION IS ATTRACTION. Nobody is claiming Sam will rape anyone, nobody is saying Sam will even touch someone. But those same questions wouldn't be asked of a woman who took issue with a man showering with her, and they shouldn't be asked in this scenario either. Anyone who's asking them has an agenda. PERIOD. EXPOSED. Next time just answer the question. You should have been smart enough to realize I posted it for a reason. I knew you wouldn't answer, and I knew why. Sorry nancy, you lose.
TIL it's okay to shower with gay men as long as they are in the closet. However, if they are openly gay then it's not okay and you are gay for showering with them. Also showering with an openly gay man is the same thing as a man and woman showering together. Geez man like I said I learn from this board every day.
Correct. Congrats, your first accurate post.
If a man wants to shower with women at the gym, would you tell any woman who took offense to it that "she's free to go home and shower if she has such a problem with it"?This is all too easy.
Deny it all you want, but this is suggesting that showering with a gay man is the same thing as showering with a woman. That being said it would mean gay dude = woman. Meaning you are gay yourself.
So now the answer is, if you don't like it you have to go home and shower? This is what being equal means to a gay man such as yourself? Yep, that's absurd.So instead of trying to spin it into a situation that will never actually exist (players going home instead of showering at the stadium), how about you answer the question in an honest way? We both know why you won't. But let's see if you have the courage to try.
How can I answer that question when it's idiotic? You are basically calling a gay man a woman... That's just stupid. Two totally different things. If a gay man is equal to a woman then why do you have such a problem with them? Do you dislike women also?
Like I said, you're a very stupid person.I'm not calling a gay man a woman. I'm presenting an alternate scenario where one person is attracted to another person and they are forced to shower together whether both parties agree to it or not. You don't want to talk about this issue because it destroys your entire agenda. You can't force a woman to take a shower with a man, and you can't force a man to take a shower with a gay man. It's the exact same thing. If a woman took issue with being forced to shower with a man, would you say to her "what's the matter, it's not like he's going to rape you, get over it". No, you wouldn't. You're attempting to create different rules and different expectations because you're a gay man with an agenda. We get it, you're gay and your stance is perverse and has nothing to do with the actual NFL.
No one forces anyone to shower. You can go home and take a shower. Do you live in video game land?
Do you honestly believe players go home to shower after the game? Considering it's you, I wouldn't be surprised. According to you players are never even naked in the locker room, right? What a naive child.
Is there a law stating that players cannot go home and shower?What a naive child.
If a man wants to shower with women at the gym, would you tell any woman who took offense to it that "she's free to go home and shower if she has such a problem with it"?This is all too easy.
Is there a law stating that players cannot go home and shower?This is too easy with your FOX news worshippin ass.
I just want one of the three gay men in this thread to answer this question honestly.Do women have the right to question being forced to shower with a straight man? Let's see if one of the three gay men in this thread can directly answer this question.
If a woman got drafted by an NFL team, then she should have the freedom to use the facilities, or not use the facilities, as she sees fit. If a married guy on the team felt uncomfortable with her being in the shower, would you defend him or her?
Give me a scenario that actually has a chance of happening, and we can talk. Again, your initial reaction to my question was to twist it around into something different. You flat out refuse to answer the question because you know it will expose your illogical agenda. You and the other gay guy who "responded" to this question are very transparent. Case closed. A legitimate question was asked, and two gay men, instead of simply answering, attempted to twist it around into a question of their own. I think we've all seen enough. Agenda exposed.
Let's review. You asked: "Do women have the right to question being forced to shower with a straight man?"I answered: "If a woman got drafted by an NFL team, then she should have the freedom to use the facilities, or not use the facilities, as she sees fit."I directly provided you an answer, then presented one of my own. Did you not understand the answer? I can explain it for you.
You didn't provide anything, you attempted to twist my question around to fit your agenda. We both know why. This is hilarious at this point. Two frauds have been exposed with one simple question. Gotta love that.
Okay, let's see if I can say this another way.No one should ever be forced to do something they don't want to do in the workplace. If a player feels uncomfortable showering with another player, they should have the freedom to not shower with that person. Which they do. Whether that player is female, male, gay or straight, they should never, ever be forced to shower with someone they don't want to shower with. Yes, women have the right to question showering with straight men, just like straight men have the right to question showering with a gay man.My question is, and has been, why would you feel uncomfortable showering with a gay man. You indicated earlier that his potential attraction to you would make you feel uncomfortable. Given that Sam is a 20 year old kid who likely wouldn't be attracted to you in any way, shape or form, I don't see why you care.If he were to develop a crush on one of his teammates, he likely wouldn't make it obvious. In my own personal experience working in situations where I was intimately close to someone, in the workplace, who I was attracted to, I know these feelings can be controlled.It's not an agenda it's simply proving, through facts and logic, that your argument doesn't hold water because it's nonsensical, assumptive and baseless.If you, personally, would feel uncomfortable being in an NFL locker room shower with a gay man and would be unable to control your emotions or feelings, for whatever reason, that's up to you. A team of college kids at Mizzou last year were able to control it and had a hell of a season during this situation. Possibly you have maturity issues to deal with.If I were you, I would seek therapy.
