You got nothing and you're mad , hamster. Next time keep pretending you are hiding a real answer , instead of revealing the stupidity of the one you have.
So your reason that I shouldn't be uncomfortable showering with a man who could be sexually attracted to me , while a women should be uncomfortable for the very same reason, is that most rapists are men ....Lol...my god you are stupid. If that's the best you could come up with you'd have been better off continuing to pretend the question was beneath you , you sad little moron.
I'm a moron because I can't read your mind? I have no idea why someone else finding you attractive makes you uncomfortable. I have had gay guys hit on me, and I found it flattering. The only reasoning I could come up with is modesty. The other reason would be fear that you might realize it turns you on which is something personal you have to deal with.I know this really courageous guy who realized the same thing and had the balls to tell the whole world yesterday.
I The real question has to be at this point, is Vilma really stupid enough to think that a gay man who is his teammate would actually try some gay stuff on him in the locker room? Is he that stupid?
What's the difference if sexuality is irrelevant ?Why should a woman feel uncomfortable showering with men if I can't feel uncomfortable showering with a gay man??The difference is there is no difference. It's uncomfortable because that person might be looking at you in a sexual way. It's certainly not because she's never seen a penis before.
Sexuality isn't irrelevant. It simply can not be the basis for discrimination. Certainly not to the point of exclusion. I don't think it's unnatural for a human to be uncomfortable naked around other humans. I'm sure there are many heterosexual males who would abhor the thought of undressing in front of females (whether those females were clothed or not) outside of an intimate setting. The discomfort having no immediate connection to thoughts of sex. As pointed out by Cyber, you example is flawed. We do not equate homosexual males to heterosexual females. If you are starting from that perspective, I doubt there is any headway that can be made on the subject. The whole discussion is a farce. You are defending the institution of males showering together communally as if it were some sacred right of passage among athletes (or specifically football players?). The simple solution would be that if it causes any problem what so ever, don't shower together naked as a group. Unless there is a rational reason against that solution? What is the next insurmountable obstacle against tearing down hateful bigotry?
Some people like to get naked with gay men, not that there's anything wrong with that, but I would prefer not to.
He has a bit of a point. Otherwise why don't we have coed showers and locker rooms?
Exactly. Gay men are just like women. Brilliant.
They are sexually attracted and aroused by men, so yes they are in some respects.
Some people like to get naked with gay men, not that there's anything wrong with that, but I would prefer not to.
If I payed you somewhere between 500k and 10 million dollars annually could you put your preferences aside for the sake of your profession? I mean we could set it up so you don't have to be naked around gay men. It might take a little extra work, but I bet if we worked together we could come up with a way that men can play the sport of football professionally together without seeing each other naked. If we have to go to those lengths, I think it's worth it. Since we're talking about one group's basic human equality. I'm not totally cold to your (or a theoretical homophobe's) personal inadequacies.
I The real question has to be at this point, is Vilma really stupid enough to think that a gay man who is his teammate would actually try some gay stuff on him in the locker room? Is he that stupid?
If Scarlett Johansson walks into the shower and starts washing her boobies and butt, you are going to get a hard on. You won't be able to stop it or hide it.If one of your team mates fancies you and gets a hard on as you start washing your meat and 2 veg, just what kind of impact is that going to have?Regardless of how much you agree, or the reasons behind it, it is a valid point that gay men in the locker room creates issues that are currently not there. At least not transparently.
He has a bit of a point. Otherwise why don't we have coed showers and locker rooms?
Exactly. Gay men are just like women. Brilliant.
They are sexually attracted and aroused by men, so yes they are in some respects.
That's one. Go on............I can name literally thousands of ways that straight (and homosexual) men are just like women.
"I'm not totally cold to your (or a theoretical homophobe's) personal inadequacies."And I'm not insensitive to your desire to shower with gay men. I'd just prefer not to myself.
What's the difference if sexuality is irrelevant ?Why should a woman feel uncomfortable showering with men if I can't feel uncomfortable showering with a gay man??The difference is there is no difference. It's uncomfortable because that person might be looking at you in a sexual way. It's certainly not because she's never seen a penis before.
Sexuality isn't irrelevant. It simply can not be the basis for discrimination. Certainly not to the point of exclusion. I don't think it's unnatural for a human to be uncomfortable naked around other humans. I'm sure there are many heterosexual males who would abhor the thought of undressing in front of females (whether those females were clothed or not) outside of an intimate setting. The discomfort having no immediate connection to thoughts of sex. As pointed out by Cyber, you example is flawed. We do not equate homosexual males to heterosexual females. If you are starting from that perspective, I doubt there is any headway that can be made on the subject. The whole discussion is a farce. You are defending the institution of males showering together communally as if it were some sacred right of passage among athletes (or specifically football players?). The simple solution would be that if it causes any problem what so ever, don't shower together naked as a group. Unless there is a rational reason against that solution? What is the next insurmountable obstacle against tearing down hateful bigotry?
In this day and it is considered harassment to do or say anything that makes LGBT and women uncomfortable in the workplace. Everybody does the annual training in the Corporate world these days. Your argument therefore is that it is NOT ok for heterosexual men to make gays and women uncomfortable in any shape or form, because that is harassment and bigotry, but IT IS OK for gays to make heterosexual men feel uncomfortable.In one respect I agree in that they should not be excluded from the game, but I do think that for some it could be a valid concern. One that may need to be addressed under the constraints of sexual harassment.
"I'm not totally cold to your (or a theoretical homophobe's) personal inadequacies."And I'm not insensitive to your desire to shower with gay men. I'd just prefer not to myself.
Is your preference absolute?
Guys, if you shared shower with a gay man and his soldier's at attention would that make you feel uncomfortable? Hell yea it would! End of discussion. If I see a hot naked chic my soldiers gonna twitch like a zombie 
and possibly rise to the occasion.
Sam's no different from any heterosexual male.
In this day and it is considered harassment to do or say anything that makes LGBT and women uncomfortable in the workplace. Everybody does the annual training in the Corporate world these days. Your argument therefore is that it is NOT ok for heterosexual men to make gays and women uncomfortable in any shape or form, because that is harassment and bigotry, but IT IS OK for gays to make heterosexual men feel uncomfortable.In one respect I agree in that they should not be excluded from the game, but I do think that for some it could be a valid concern. One that may need to be addressed under the constraints of sexual harassment.
comfort =/= blatant discrimination. Right? You get that ones feelings of discomfort or inconvenience do not trump others human rights and dignity?
Guys, if you shared shower with a gay man and his soldier's at attention would that make you feel uncomfortable? Hell yea it would! End of discussion.
First of all, I would be uncomfortable being naked around anyone I didn't know. Second of all, I would be uncomfortable having anyone naked around me whos soldier was at attention, whether they were gay or straight.
