Just another example of Sharpe having to pull his big foot out of his mouth. Surprised though that anyone could understand what he was saying in order to know it was an insult. Really don't know how he keeps that job.
You are so right. Nobody with a brain would argue with that.
Jim Kelly was a baaaaad man. Loved that guy!!
Agreed. I think he is underrated by most fans.
To think one man is a better player based largely on the fact that he does or doesn't have a ring is dumb. QBs matter more than any other player today but they aren't the only thing that matters and certainly 20 years ago that same QBs role mattered less. More sweeping generalizations from this board, guess it's just to hard to look at people case by case. #WINNING
Agree. A guy could be stuck on a craptastic team, but still be a helluva QB.
Exactly, or you could be Trent Dilfer.
How many rings does bad ass Kelly have?
Marino in his prime in today's NFL is 6000 yd 60 td passer...call me crazy but I said it
Why do you say that? I'm speaking about how he's viewed, and will continue to be viewed. A lot of people besides me believe the same.Look, dan was a great football player, but, because we can't say he won the big game, we cannot put him in the same lineup.Now, if you want to argue that he would've been better on a better team, ..alright, I'm listening.The guys I mentioned are NOT all better than marino (roethlisburger comes to mind), but because they won the big game, and he didn't, that is how people will remember him. That's reality. He carried that team for years, so it isn't very fair.
Whose reality? Yours? lolHere's just one example of someone that doesn't "believe the same" http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/90974/ The fact that you mentioned Kelly who didn't win a ring shows how absurd your "reality" is .......
Marino in his prime in today's NFL is 6000 yd 60 td passer...call me crazy but I said it
Not the craziest thing said in this thread for sure
Marino in his prime in today's NFL is 6000 yd 60 td passer...call me crazy but I said it
Not the craziest thing said in this thread for sure
Certainly not. Especially when the records being broken by today's stars under today's rules, generally had Marino's name on them.
Exactly, or you could be Trent Dilfer.
Well Dilfer does have a ring so add him to the list of qbs better than Marino along with Doug Williams, Rypien, Hostetler, Brad Johnson, Flacco ...........
Marino with today's rules and the athleticism of today's WR & TE and receiving RB's would just own defenses.
I can certainly see Elway
For your sake, I hope Terrell Davis is included in that deal as TD is the only reason why Elway has 2 rings.
I can certainly see Elway
For your sake, I hope Terrell Davis is included in that deal as TD is the only reason why Elway has 2 rings.
I considered Elway (with Marino), a top 1A/1B all-time QB before those Super Bowls even happened. Rings mean nothing to me when judging a players career. Rings are team, not individual accomplishments.
If someone were to argue John Elway, that's fine, I think they're on equal footing. After that though, any other QB you mention will have been surrounded by Hall-of-Famers. Marino never was.
What HOFer did Rodgers or Brees win with?
I was speaking more to the older guys like Aikman, Young, Montana... et al. Guys of today like Roders, Brees, Ben, and Eli can't even hold Marino's jock. Brady and Manning could be in the argument, I just won't agree with it.
Some of these lists people are throwing out there are absolutely ridiculous.There's an argument for Marino being the best ever.He's probably top 3There's not a shred of doubt to anyone that knows this game, that he is top 5The numbers he put up in the era in which he played were insane. With today's rules protecting the QB, and the passing offense in general, dude would put up 6000 yards. When he dropped 5000, it was UNHEARD of, and nobody would do it again for 25 years. There's been what? 5 5000 yard seasons in the last 5 or so years?Aikman? Favre? Eli?!?!?!? You guys are clueless.
I can certainly see Elway
For your sake, I hope Terrell Davis is included in that deal as TD is the only reason why Elway has 2 rings.
Rings mean nothing to me when judging a players career. Rings are team, not individual accomplishments.
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