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Posted by: @jc5100

Yea let’s draft an offensive skill player and then crucify Bowles for the defense 

lol

 

outside perception of need . ..  kiper maybe?  way, way outside

 


 
Posted : Jan. 22, 2026 8:47 am
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Posted by: @jc5100

Yea let’s draft an offensive skill player and then crucify Bowles for the defense 

Thanks for reminding us we only have one draft pick this year and that they cancelled free agency. 

 


 
Posted : Jan. 22, 2026 8:51 am
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Yea let’s draft an offensive skill player and then crucify Bowles for the defense 

Five out of the last eight first picks have been on defense. Poor fella just can't get any help.

 


 
Posted : Jan. 22, 2026 9:11 am
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Posted by: @jc5100

Yea let’s draft an offensive skill player and then crucify Bowles for the defense 

Five out of the last eight first picks have been on defense. Poor fella just can't get any help.

 

What a layup. You're making JC5100's point for him because not one of them (except Hall) picked while Bowles has been here played in 2025. And Hall will be gone.

Vea picked before, but great even at 31

White . .  gone

JTS  . . . .gone

Hall. . . gone soon (1.5 sacks?)

Kancey . . .  out

That is part of the defenses struggles and probably one of the reasons Bowles is still here. 

 

non-players are not "help."

 


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Posted : Jan. 22, 2026 9:35 am
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Posted by: @jc5100

Yea let’s draft an offensive skill player and then crucify Bowles for the defense 

Five out of the last eight first picks have been on defense. Poor fella just can't get any help.

 

It’s just some miscommunication issues. 

Year 8 should be season we get it fixed. 

These things take time. 

 


 
Posted : Jan. 22, 2026 9:53 am
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Either way I don't wanna see Otton play here again. I never trust him....brick hands 


 
Posted : Jan. 22, 2026 11:10 am
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Posted by: @biggs3535

Five out of the last eight first picks have been on defense.

And yet, the Bucs were ranked 20th in points allowed and 19th in total defense. Are you putting the lack of production all on Boles? Surely, you can see the need for better talent on defense...


 
Posted : Jan. 22, 2026 11:15 am
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Posted by: @jc5100

Yea let’s draft an offensive skill player and then crucify Bowles for the defense 

Five out of the last eight first picks have been on defense. Poor fella just can't get any help.

 

It’s just some miscommunication issues. 

Year 8 should be season we get it fixed. 

These things take time. 

 

Yeah, but I should get a chance to keep my job since I won three straight division titles...

 


 
Posted : Jan. 22, 2026 11:48 am
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Posted by: @biggs3535

Five out of the last eight first picks have been on defense.

And yet, the Bucs were ranked 20th in points allowed and 19th in total defense. Are you putting the lack of production all on Boles? Surely, you can see the need for better talent on defense...

I think the issue is that the Bucs clearly had more talent on D in 2025 versus 2024 yet the defense was much worse

why?

 


 
Posted : Jan. 22, 2026 1:23 pm
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Five out of the last eight first picks have been on defense.

And yet, the Bucs were ranked 20th in points allowed and 19th in total defense. Are you putting the lack of production all on Boles? Surely, you can see the need for better talent on defense...

The defensive performance is mostly on Bowles, yes.

Which of the defensive players on the team did Todd Bowles not want? He's been in the building since 2019. They have all either been drafted, signed, or re-signed while he was either the DC or HC/DC. These are his defensive guys.

 


 
Posted : Jan. 22, 2026 2:05 pm
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Which of the defensive players on the team did Todd Bowles not want?

Biggs, your posts are always guaranteed to go too far. The hilarious framing of he wanted all the players.

One very easy example would be the way the Bucs got Hall.  They got Hall because he was the last of a group left over AFTER Licht traded back for more draft capital. Bowles agreed to that move and agreed to a team that was mostly draft/no massive FA moves ("$400 million in contracts" lol), agreed to get rid of Carlton Davis as a cap move. He sure seems to have wanted to keep Dean. so I assume he agree to the cut of Dean's pay etc. And , according to Licht, sure seems to have agreed to try to get by with what they had on defense.

Any coach handling an NFL team after 3 "all-in" super bowl years is naturally at a financial disadvantage if the team is focused on clearing dead cap.  You know "dead cap" right?  The money you failed to account for with your "$400 million in contracts" claim

Its is precisely those kind of TEAM FIRST moves that might explain why Bowles is still the coach

 


 
Posted : Jan. 22, 2026 2:18 pm
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I am thinking no as the Bucs can use the cap space to upgrade other area of the team.  Plus, I want to see more of Durham and Culp. 

More of Durham and Culp? Are you fucking blind?

 

Yeah I want to see more Durham and Culp.  Otton is overrated. 

 


 
Posted : Jan. 22, 2026 4:27 pm
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Otton should be gone unless he is bag 'o dirt cheap. He had some critical errors in games this year.


 
Posted : Jan. 22, 2026 6:42 pm
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I am thinking no as the Bucs can use the cap space to upgrade other area of the team.  Plus, I want to see more of Durham and Culp. 

More of Durham and Culp? Are you fucking blind?

 

Yeah I want to see more Durham and Culp.  Otton is overrated. 

 

Durham is part of the problem and Culp shouldn't be on the roster. Part of the reason our special teams were so bad is we were carrying dead weight like Culp. 

 


 
Posted : Jan. 22, 2026 8:13 pm
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Posted by: @jc5100

Yea let’s draft an offensive skill player and then crucify Bowles for the defense 

Five out of the last eight first picks have been on defense. Poor fella just can't get any help.

 

It’s just some miscommunication issues. 

Year 8 should be season we get it fixed. 

These things take time. 

 

Yeah, but I should get a chance to keep my job since I won three straight division titles...

 

"Check your sheets. I'm ballin"

 


 
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