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Beardmcdoug, YES! Also a high correlation to winning with a QB who doesn't throw interceptions!
There is a high correlation between not throwing INTs and winning. Eight of the top nine teams in fewest INTs made the playoffs. The team that did not make the playoffs had the #24 YPA. The Bucs were a pretty respectable tie for #10 in fewest INTs but we of course know they went 4-12. It's not enough to just not throw INTs. You have to not throw INTs while pushing the ball down the field.
Interesting FRG. 8 of top 9 teams with fewest INT made playoff.9 of top 10 QBs in YPA made playoffs7 of top 10 QB in passer ratings made playoffs6 of top 10 QBs in passing yards made playoffs5 of top 10 QBs in completion percentage made playoffs5 of top 10 QBs in passing TDs made playoffs6 of top 10 QBs with most 40+ yard plays made playoffsSo correct me if I'm wrong but if you are in the top 9 in fewest ints but also in the top 10 in YPA and Passer rating that gives you a 99.62% chance of making the playoffs....Soooo, lets just do that then...
So the question becomes then:What types of plays are generally low-risk for interceptions and have potential for high yardage?If we base the offense around those types of passing plays, shouldn't that give us the best chance to make the playoffs?Screen plays are what come to mind for meAnd slant passesAnd maybe 1on1 deep balls to jackson
You're right to a certain extent. But if all you try and do is play it safe, no risk no reward. You can't just throw 35 dump off passes per game. The reason why the best teams are the best teams is because their QBs can execute difficult plays as if they were easy plays.
If we base the offense around screens to Watkins and Martin, slants to Watkins, deep balls to Watkins and Jackson, desperation/endzone/jump balls to Williams, Jackson, Watkins and WrightI think we'd do fairly well
The OL effect is being seriously overrated. Glennon had the 6th longest average time in the pocket of any QB in the league at 3.00 seconds. Glennon's average sack happened at 4.22 seconds, which was the 10th most time in the league. Sure we saw some quick pressures (several due to poor protection schemes/assignments) but on average he is getting/taking more time than most other QBs to make a play.
SMH
I would definitely agree with the HB and WR screen passes. Deep balls also but I would imagine that the interception percentage would climb on those. That type of offense could look something like Chip Kelly's offense. That passing attack creates a lot of space which is good for catch and running, also creates easy reads for the QB and is very effective in producing big passing plays. Foles is a good QB but that system certainly got the most out of him.
The OL effect is being seriously overrated. Glennon had the 6th longest average time in the pocket of any QB in the league at 3.00 seconds. Glennon's average sack happened at 4.22 seconds, which was the 10th most time in the league. Sure we saw some quick pressures (several due to poor protection schemes/assignments) but on average he is getting/taking more time than most other QBs to make a play.
SMH
Our line hurt us but not because of not enough time to throw the ball. It hurt because we couldn't run the ball which closed the lanes down for passing it.
The OL effect is being seriously overrated. Glennon had the 6th longest average time in the pocket of any QB in the league at 3.00 seconds. Glennon's average sack happened at 4.22 seconds, which was the 10th most time in the league. Sure we saw some quick pressures (several due to poor protection schemes/assignments) but on average he is getting/taking more time than most other QBs to make a play.
Unfortunately, whether due to scheme or personnel, his receivers, even when given more time than most NFL receivers get, STILL could not get open. I do think our O'line needs either upgrading or a new A.. Kickin' coach (LOVE SPARANO in Pewter), but we need an all-round TE and top-tier WR a whole lot more to get our O in gear.
The OL effect is being seriously overrated. Glennon had the 6th longest average time in the pocket of any QB in the league at 3.00 seconds. Glennon's average sack happened at 4.22 seconds, which was the 10th most time in the league. Sure we saw some quick pressures (several due to poor protection schemes/assignments) but on average he is getting/taking more time than most other QBs to make a play.
SMH
Our line hurt us but not because of not enough time to throw the ball. It hurt because we couldn't run the ball which closed the lanes down for passing it.
Exactly why I want to see us use a short pass game to set up the run game. The old 49ers with Joe Montana did this extremely well. They really were more of a running team, and used the pass very effectivly to spread the defense and create running lanes. Sullivan talked about doing that, but rarely if ever seemed to do it!
The OL effect is being seriously overrated. Glennon had the 6th longest average time in the pocket of any QB in the league at 3.00 seconds. Glennon's average sack happened at 4.22 seconds, which was the 10th most time in the league. Sure we saw some quick pressures (several due to poor protection schemes/assignments) but on average he is getting/taking more time than most other QBs to make a play.
SMH
Our line hurt us but not because of not enough time to throw the ball. It hurt because we couldn't run the ball which closed the lanes down for passing it.
Exactly why I want to see us use a short pass game to set up the run game. The old 49ers with Joe Montana did this extremely well. They really were more of a running team, and used the pass very effectivly to spread the defense and create running lanes. Sullivan talked about doing that, but rarely if ever seemed to do it!
Because that type of offense doesn't work anymore unless you have elite OL. Defenses have clamped down on those West Coast style offenses. Those offenses were a flash in the pan. Nowadays if you want to compete you need a QB who can make all the throws, and extend plays with his legs. Glennon made this OL look bad last year. Now some clueless fans are talking about replacing Penn and Zuttah and keeping Glennon on as the no.1 QB. :-
Also, pretty sure that YPA and the amount of time Glennon had to throw relates to the majority of our receivers (considering their generally suckiness) being unable to gain separation, along with Sullivan's offensive scheme (read/react, time consuming routes). Add that to Glennon's inexperience then there is little wonder as to why our offense wasn't successful.
Also, pretty sure that YPA and the amount of time Glennon had to throw relates to the majority of our receivers (considering their generally suckiness) being unable to gain separation, along with Sullivan's offensive scheme (read/react, time consuming routes). Add that to Glennon's inexperience then there is little wonder as to why our offense wasn't successful.
Yep.
The OL effect is being seriously overrated. Glennon had the 6th longest average time in the pocket of any QB in the league at 3.00 seconds. Glennon's average sack happened at 4.22 seconds, which was the 10th most time in the league. Sure we saw some quick pressures (several due to poor protection schemes/assignments) but on average he is getting/taking more time than most other QBs to make a play.
SMH
Our line hurt us but not because of not enough time to throw the ball. It hurt because we couldn't run the ball which closed the lanes down for passing it.
Exactly why I want to see us use a short pass game to set up the run game. The old 49ers with Joe Montana did this extremely well. They really were more of a running team, and used the pass very effectivly to spread the defense and create running lanes. Sullivan talked about doing that, but rarely if ever seemed to do it!
Because that type of offense doesn't work anymore unless you have elite OL. Defenses have clamped down on those West Coast style offenses. Those offenses were a flash in the pan. Nowadays if you want to compete you need a QB who can make all the throws, and extend plays with his legs. Glennon made this OL look bad last year. Now some clueless fans are talking about replacing Penn and Zuttah and keeping Glennon on as the no.1 QB. :-
Pretty sure that Brady and Manning aren't extending plays with their legs. They have amazing pocket presence/awareness and can absolutely carve a defense to shreds with a short passing attack, should they desire to do so. I think the O-line isn't as bad as people are making it out to be, but that it's not all on Glennon as well. Things to consider: lack of playmakers at skill positions (outside of Jackson), no blocking TE to speak of, the fact that last half of our season was played against the best front sevens in the business (Carolina, San Fran, St. Louis, Detroit, Buffalo).
Also, pretty sure that YPA and the amount of time Glennon had to throw relates to the majority of our receivers (considering their generally suckiness) being unable to gain separation, along with Sullivan's offensive scheme (read/react, time consuming routes). Add that to Glennon's inexperience then there is little wonder as to why our offense wasn't successful.
Yep.
Yep.
The OL effect is being seriously overrated. Glennon had the 6th longest average time in the pocket of any QB in the league at 3.00 seconds. Glennon's average sack happened at 4.22 seconds, which was the 10th most time in the league. Sure we saw some quick pressures (several due to poor protection schemes/assignments) but on average he is getting/taking more time than most other QBs to make a play.
SMH
Our line hurt us but not because of not enough time to throw the ball. It hurt because we couldn't run the ball which closed the lanes down for passing it.
Exactly why I want to see us use a short pass game to set up the run game. The old 49ers with Joe Montana did this extremely well. They really were more of a running team, and used the pass very effectivly to spread the defense and create running lanes. Sullivan talked about doing that, but rarely if ever seemed to do it!
Because that type of offense doesn't work anymore unless you have elite OL. Defenses have clamped down on those West Coast style offenses. Those offenses were a flash in the pan. Nowadays if you want to compete you need a QB who can make all the throws, and extend plays with his legs. Glennon made this OL look bad last year. Now some clueless fans are talking about replacing Penn and Zuttah and keeping Glennon on as the no.1 QB. :-
Pretty sure that Brady and Manning aren't extending plays with their legs. They have amazing pocket presence/awareness and can absolutely carve a defense to shreds with a short passing attack, should they desire to do so. I think the O-line isn't as bad as people are making it out to be, but that it's not all on Glennon as well. Things to consider: lack of playmakers at skill positions (outside of Jackson), no blocking TE to speak of, the fact that last half of our season was played against the best front sevens in the business (Carolina, San Fran, St. Louis, Detroit, Buffalo).
I totally agree with your statement on the competition level that we faced. Most fans don't pick up on that.Those two QBs you mentioned are relics.....great QBs from an era that is ending. What makes them successful is decisiveness and great release. The excuse that the receivers weren't getting open has been played out. The all-22 shows something different. Glennon staring down open receivers and not pulling the trigger is much more obvious (if you pause the all-22 and look)I have been wanting to post some of the images, but need to figure out how to do it. I think I need to use JavaScript?? Google Chrome? I don't know!!
The OL effect is being seriously overrated. Glennon had the 6th longest average time in the pocket of any QB in the league at 3.00 seconds. Glennon's average sack happened at 4.22 seconds, which was the 10th most time in the league. Sure we saw some quick pressures (several due to poor protection schemes/assignments) but on average he is getting/taking more time than most other QBs to make a play.
SMH
Our line hurt us but not because of not enough time to throw the ball. It hurt because we couldn't run the ball which closed the lanes down for passing it.
Exactly why I want to see us use a short pass game to set up the run game. The old 49ers with Joe Montana did this extremely well. They really were more of a running team, and used the pass very effectivly to spread the defense and create running lanes. Sullivan talked about doing that, but rarely if ever seemed to do it!
Because that type of offense doesn't work anymore unless you have elite OL. Defenses have clamped down on those West Coast style offenses. Those offenses were a flash in the pan. Nowadays if you want to compete you need a QB who can make all the throws, and extend plays with his legs. Glennon made this OL look bad last year. Now some clueless fans are talking about replacing Penn and Zuttah and keeping Glennon on as the no.1 QB. :-
Pretty sure that Brady and Manning aren't extending plays with their legs. They have amazing pocket presence/awareness and can absolutely carve a defense to shreds with a short passing attack, should they desire to do so. I think the O-line isn't as bad as people are making it out to be, but that it's not all on Glennon as well. Things to consider: lack of playmakers at skill positions (outside of Jackson), no blocking TE to speak of, the fact that last half of our season was played against the best front sevens in the business (Carolina, San Fran, St. Louis, Detroit, Buffalo).
I totally agree with your statement on the competition level that we faced. Most fans don't pick up on that.Those two QBs you mentioned are relics.....great QBs from an era that is ending. What makes them successful is decisiveness and great release. The excuse that the receivers weren't getting open has been played out. The all-22 shows something different. Glennon staring down open receivers and not pulling the trigger is much more obvious (if you pause the all-22 and look)I have been wanting to post some of the images, but need to figure out how to do it. I think I need to use JavaScript?? Google Chrome? I don't know!!
Relics? They're the two best QBs in the league! The reason there aren't more like them is because more and more high school and colleges are running some type of zone read offense because it's easier to coach athletes than develop a heady pocket passer. It allows them to use the skills of their special athletes to make plays. The problem is, when they get to the NFL, all of the players are special athletes.
