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Lots of focus on the offensive performance when its the defense that came out unprepared or under motivated.

 

Tykee Smith is actually in PR's most impressive because of his incredible late INT, but if you just look back at the game he is UNDERNEATH Morrison on the deep TD (assuming he should be deep of him) and even worse he is in the hole to stop the long TD run early and has only a WR blocking him but totally whiffs, not even close. Its almost like he was hoping a flag would bail him out.

On top of that, watch the late run for a long TD and you will see time catching up with LVD.  He cant get around a WR/TE with speed to set the edge, so he does something he has done successfully many times in his career, which is he shoots under the WR/TE. The problem is he cant get there. The RB beats him to the corner (you will see SVD almost there even though he is coming from the other side).

The defense played good overall and certainly gave the offense a chance at the end, but they also had effort/discipline breakdowns.  Thats probably why Bowles is so pissed. FLAT coming off the bye.

 


 
Posted : Nov. 10, 2025 11:01 am
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Defense got 7 stops vs an MVP level QB. Gave the offense the ball back twice up 7-0, they couldn’t make it two scores. Gave the offense the ball back down 5 three consecutive times. Nothing. 


 
Posted : Nov. 10, 2025 12:18 pm
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Posted by: @jc5100

Defense got 7 stops vs an MVP level QB. Gave the offense the ball back twice up 7-0, they couldn’t make it two scores. Gave the offense the ball back down 5 three consecutive times. Nothing. 

 

sounds like last season on these boards,  in reverse 

 


 
Posted : Nov. 10, 2025 1:05 pm
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Josh McDaniel beat Bowles in the play calling. A deep bomb late, a throw over the middle to the guy Anthony Nelson was covering lol

 

these are the kind of plays that woukd have the pitchforks out last season

 

picking on Morrison etc


 
Posted : Nov. 10, 2025 1:08 pm
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Posted by: @jc5100

Defense got 7 stops vs an MVP level QB. Gave the offense the ball back twice up 7-0, they couldn’t make it two scores. Gave the offense the ball back down 5 three consecutive times. Nothing. 

Bingo 

 


 
Posted : Nov. 10, 2025 1:23 pm
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Josh McDaniel beat Bowles in the play calling. A deep bomb late, a throw over the middle to the guy Anthony Nelson was covering lol

 

these are the kind of plays that woukd have the pitchforks out last season

 

picking on Morrison etc

He did but Bowles did enough even with some head scratching play calls 

 


 
Posted : Nov. 10, 2025 1:24 pm
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Josh McDaniel beat Bowles in the play calling. A deep bomb late, a throw over the middle to the guy Anthony Nelson was covering lol

 

these are the kind of plays that woukd have the pitchforks out last season

 

picking on Morrison etc

He did but Bowles did enough even with some head scratching play calls 

 

 

yes definitely a little devil's advocate in my take.  Josh Q is out now with his take

 

"The difference in this game came down to explosive plays. Both teams hit six explosives, defined as a run play of 10+ yards or a pass play of 20+. The Bucs had runs of 11, 12 and 18 yards, and passes of 24, 21, 31 and 21 yards. The Patriots hit passing explosives of 72, 26 and 54 yards and running explosives of 16, 55 and 69 yards."

On non-explosives Tampa Bay out-gained New England 251 yards to 143, and 4.2 yards per play to 2.7. But the Bucs lost the explosive battle, 292 yards to 120 yards, and 48.9 yards per play to 20.0 yards per play. The Patriots scored on three of their explosives to the Bucs’ zero scores on their explosives.

Comparing that to the entire season these are outlier performances for Tampa Bay.

The Buccaneers have allowed an average of 137 yards per game via explosives compared to 142 gained from such plays by their own offense. Giving up over double their season-long average isn’t likely to be a repeatable concern in upcoming games."

 


 
Posted : Nov. 10, 2025 1:51 pm
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Which is odd because Bowles is notorious for keeping everything in front...

I think we had our safeties get caught with their pants down... Winfield included but Smith was the bigger offender 


 
Posted : Nov. 10, 2025 1:52 pm
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Smith was the bigger offender 

On the 72 yard TD right at the end of the 1st quarter it is 1st and 10 play action pass and Smith is looking in the backfield, even though he is the safety help for the rookie.


 
Posted : Nov. 10, 2025 2:21 pm
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Smith was the bigger offender 

On the 72 yard TD right at the end of the 1st quarter it is 1st and 10 play action pass and Smith is looking in the backfield, even though he is the safety help for the rookie.

He was constantly out of position all day 

 


 
Posted : Nov. 10, 2025 2:54 pm
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Defense gave up 3 terrible long TDs and the 2 runs were inexcusable given how much we dominate the run in the Bowles era

need to get that fixed if that’s all of a sudden a problem 


 
Posted : Nov. 10, 2025 8:28 pm
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22nd scoring & overall defense right now. Not good. I thought injuries were the culprit last season?

Luckily, after the Rams, the schedule becomes cheesecake. We'll beat up on the bad teams, win a shitty division, and not go very far in the playoffs. Ask me how I know...


 
Posted : Nov. 18, 2025 2:59 pm
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22nd scoring & overall defense right now. Not good. I thought injuries were the culprit last season?

Luckily, after the Rams, the schedule becomes cheesecake. We'll beat up on the bad teams, win a shitty division, and not go very far in the playoffs. Ask me how I know...

Mid season slump followed by a cupcake schedule down the stretch?

This is the way

Here's my commitment: if Bowles calls a good game vs the Rams (I'll define that as under 350 yards and 24 points) then I will consider the Bills game an anomaly.

If Rams drop 30+ and move at will because we rush 3 and drop end into coverage... Then I'll say Bowles is once again cooked 

 


 
Posted : Nov. 18, 2025 4:14 pm
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good game vs the Rams (I'll define that as under 350 yards and 24 points)

We should all hope for that, both under their averages of 28pts and 360ish, roughly 

I don't see it happening.  No pressure and teams jumping the zone blitz.  The defense created 3 turnovers last week and still gave up 40+


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Posted : Nov. 18, 2025 4:50 pm
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Posted by: @firebowles2026

good game vs the Rams (I'll define that as under 350 yards and 24 points)

We should all hope for that, both under their averages of 28pts and 360ish, roughly 

I don't see it happening.  No pressure and teams jumping the zone blitz.  The defense created 3 turnovers last week and still gave up 40+

Hey I'm just stating my expectations. That would be a good game. Seahawks played them well 

 


 
Posted : Nov. 18, 2025 5:45 pm
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