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BTW:Not that it matters, because his stats merely prove the point that we ran too often on 2nd and long , but someone who cares may actually want to ask the Scarecrow to provide his link.Afterall , this is the guy who got caught fabricating stats out of thin air in an argument with Freddy. Ask him about it . Lol.

 
Posted : Jan. 1, 2014 11:30 am
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Dang, it looks like the wizard couldn't find a brain for the scarecrow after all.  I guess we just have to deal with another year of him making a fool of himself on a routine basis.  Maybe he should have gone Lions route and asked for courage.  That way he might have at least shaken his cowardly traits.

 
Posted : Jan. 1, 2014 11:44 am
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Posted : Jan. 1, 2014 12:23 pm
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Dang, it looks like the wizard couldn't find a brain for the scarecrow after all.  I guess we just have to deal with another year of him making a fool of himself on a routine basis.  Maybe he should have gone Lions route and asked for courage.  That way he might have at least shaken his cowardly traits.

LMAO !! He so mad right now.

 
Posted : Jan. 1, 2014 12:51 pm
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Good boy! Admitting your pain is a good first step.  Congratulations.

 
Posted : Jan. 1, 2014 1:25 pm
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Lol. Donkey mad, 'cause he made an ass out of himself.

Not mad at all. Just curious as to why Biggs took the time to pull up stats supporting the fact that this offense was inept and a joke. And again, why doesn't he pull some stats of how often we ran when it was 2nd and long?

 
Posted : Jan. 1, 2014 1:45 pm
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A better question would be why don't you go ahead and read the first post?

 
Posted : Jan. 1, 2014 1:51 pm
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Lol. Donkey mad, 'cause he made an ass out of himself.

Not mad at all. Just curious as to why Biggs took the time to pull up stats supporting the fact that this offense was inept and a joke.

You're pretty pissed, because you were one of the people this thread was meant for:

I think Sully might mix it up this next drive. Pass, Run, Pass, Punt

You were wrong.  It's not an opinion, it's a fact.

And again, why doesn't he pull some stats of how often we ran when it was 2nd and long?

I did.  Pull your head outta your ass, read them, understand them, and learn from it.

 
Posted : Jan. 1, 2014 1:52 pm
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Lol. Donkey mad, 'cause he made an ass out of himself.

Not mad at all. Just curious as to why Biggs took the time to pull up stats supporting the fact that this offense was inept and a joke.

You're pretty pissed, because you were one of the people this thread was meant for:

I think Sully might mix it up this next drive. Pass, Run, Pass, Punt

You were wrong.  It's not an opinion, it's a fact.

And again, why doesn't he pull some stats of how often we ran when it was 2nd and long?

I did.  Pull your head outta your ass, read them, understand them, and learn from it.

Again, not pissed at all. and I will admit I was wrong to an extent. I was too busy looking at all the numbers and failed to see that you did post numbers in regards to 2nd and long. Either way, the amount of times we ran on 2nd and long is absurd. Hopefully, our new OC will be able to fix the stagnant offense we have here now.

 
Posted : Jan. 1, 2014 2:04 pm
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Congrats- you've proven our point.  We ran the ball on 2nd and long roughly half the time.  That's way too much when you consider some of them were 2nd and 20ish.  I assume you included anything in 2nd and 7 or more which doesn't tell the whole story.  2nd and 7 is very different from 2nd and 15+.  There is  areason they are referred to as "obvious passing downs".

Doesn't fit this clown's agenda. Clearly a supporter of Schiano's prolific offense and play calling.

this is a mule not a donkey smh..obviously doesn't comprehend the thread why even bother arguing with this moose

 
Posted : Jan. 1, 2014 2:28 pm
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by the way Schiano was not the offensive coordinator stupid.. that was Sully

 
Posted : Jan. 1, 2014 2:30 pm
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A better question would be why don't you go ahead and read the first post?

The correct question is how many of those 2nd and long passes came in 2nd halves in which the Bucs were trailing and trying to come back - thereby skewing the numbers.The play calling when Schi-schi was in a close game, or god forbid had any sort of lead , was exponentially more conservative , as we all know.The 2nd correct question is : where is the link to all these stats ?? The scarecrow has lied about stats before , as Freddy can attest.But , as I said , it doesn't really matter. Point still proven that we ran entirely too often in 2nd and long , setting up lots of poor down and distance on 3rd down.

 
Posted : Jan. 1, 2014 2:34 pm
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by the way Schiano was not the offensive coordinator stupid.. that was Sully

Oh you're right. Schiano had nothing to do with the offense. Or adjustments.

 
Posted : Jan. 1, 2014 2:35 pm
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A better question would be why don't you go ahead and read the first post?

The correct question is how many of those 2nd and long passes came in 2nd halves in which the Bucs were trailing and trying to come back - thereby skewing the numbers.The play calling when Schi-schi was in a close game, or god forbid had any sort of lead , was exponentially more conservative , as we all know.The 2nd correct question is : where is the link to all these stats ??But , as I said , it doesn't really matter. Point still proven that we ran entirely too often in 2nd and long , setting up lots of poor down and distance on 3rd down.

Exactly. The play calling was horrible. It put Glennon in way too many 3rd down situations that weren't very manageable.

 
Posted : Jan. 1, 2014 2:37 pm
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A better question would be why don't you go ahead and read the first post?

The correct question is how many of those 2nd and long passes came in 2nd halves in which the Bucs were trailing and trying to come back - thereby skewing the numbers.The play calling when Schi-schi was in a close game, or god forbid had any sort of lead , was exponentially more conservative , as we all know.The 2nd correct question is : where is the link to all these stats ?? The scarecrow has lied about stats before , as Freddy can attest.But , as I said , it doesn't really matter. Point still proven that we ran entirely too often in 2nd and long , setting up lots of poor down and distance on 3rd down.

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Posted : Jan. 1, 2014 2:38 pm
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