From all indications, it seems that Mr. Bowles is going to remain on in 2026.
Lessons learned from the Glazer boys should be the fact that they let Liam go to Jacksonville and turn a 4-13 squad into a 13-4 team. Canales went to Carolina and turned a 5-win team into division champs. The Panthers had quality wins vs. Green Bay and the Rams, while the Bucs lost to a Saints team that was mired in last place. It should be noted also that the Panthers also waxed Atlanta 30-0.
The point here is that Bucs' brass allowed 2 coaches go the last 2 years and both are division champs, both with arguably less talented teams overall.
While injuries on the o-line seriously hurt the offense, it was the piss-poor play of the defense that ultimately cost the Bucs. Opponents consistently shredded the defense on passes across the middle with no defensive adjustments. Now, maybe TB lacks overall talent in the LB and DB corps, and any adjustments would have been futile. But my eyes saw no effort to adjust coverages.
All of this, combined with the alleged "Walk-Throughs" only give me pause. If it were only one player reflecting upon this, it would tend to be fodder, however, it sounds like multiple players alluded to it.
In conclusion, as a Buc fan since the beginning, I feel it is time for a change. Don't let the grass grow at OBP....go out and recruit John Harbaugh NOW. He is the best option to replace Bowles. I believe Todd is a good man but his track record as a HC is "meh" at best. Sidenote to Jason Licht: Keeping Bowles will eventually cost you your job.
i am not giving up hope. Are they supposed to meet today?
if it gets to Friday, i'd start to be concerned
this was one of the most brutal collapses by a team in recent history, so it's not like...hey Todd is clearly safe
Bengals gave their coach a vote of confidence that he is returning and he missed his QB half the year. For the Bucs not to do the same with Bowles, makes me think there's still a chance, particularly with just 1 supporter (JC5100) existing throughout the Buccaneers entire fan base
From all indications, it seems that Mr. Bowles is going to remain on in 2026.
Not sure thats right. I think he meets with the owners today.
Weird almost to think that Bowles must be in the first group of HC fires or something is wrong. or, even historically speaking within the Bucs organization. December fires includes some HC who did nothing and Gruden was a mid-Jan fire, three weeks or so after the equivalent Black Monday press conference.
Anything is possible though and there is definitely a path, narrow as it might be, for Bowles to navigate. Just dont think "all indications" point to that conclusion. If they did the Bucs would already be out with a "vote of confidence." Or, Arians (supposedly inTampa now) would have tested waters on his show.
From all indications, it seems that Mr. Bowles is going to remain on in 2026.
Not sure thats right. I think he meets with the owners today.
Weird almost to think that Bowles must be in the first group of HC fires or something is wrong. or, even historically speaking within the Bucs organization. December fires includes some HC who did nothing and Gruden was a mid-Jan fire, three weeks or so after the equivalent Black Monday press conference.
Anything is possible though and there is definitely a path, narrow as it might be, for Bowles to navigate. Just dont think "all indications" point to that conclusion. If they did the Bucs would already be out with a "vote of confidence." Or, Arians (supposedly inTampa now) would have tested waters on his show.
what has us concerned is all the reports that came out from insiders that he is safe coupled with the fact of the support from guys like Arians, Barber, McCoy, etc.
where there is smoke, there is fire.
A peaceful transition to retirement certainly isn't happening judging by Bowles press conference
i am with you though, no decision has been made yet by my post above but if we dont hear about a firing this afternoon, wtf was that meeting about?
and like i said he's still coach by the weekend games, then yeah, he may just be the coach for 2026
which....i dont know how that works, would be terrible for business to be honest with you. Like it's one thing if you dont want to get the most out of the team and win, it's another to see your revenue drop or not grow
I'm 70/30 he is staying. Next year will certainly suck if we keep him over someone like Harbaugh
Almost wondering if the Buc FO/owners are trying to work a deal with a potential candidate - but keeping Todd on the hook until something is ironed out? We don’t want a repeating firing Dungy, missing the originals target, causing a desperate negotiation with Al Davis for Jon Gruden… would like to think they’ve learned..From all indications, it seems that Mr. Bowles is going to remain on in 2026.
Not sure thats right. I think he meets with the owners today.
Weird almost to think that Bowles must be in the first group of HC fires or something is wrong. or, even historically speaking within the Bucs organization. December fires includes some HC who did nothing and Gruden was a mid-Jan fire, three weeks or so after the equivalent Black Monday press conference.
Anything is possible though and there is definitely a path, narrow as it might be, for Bowles to navigate. Just dont think "all indications" point to that conclusion. If they did the Bucs would already be out with a "vote of confidence." Or, Arians (supposedly inTampa now) would have tested waters on his show.
I could just be reading waaay too much into the tea leaves.
Agree, while I’d put my odds at 55/45 he’ll be retained - that potential reality feels pretty ugly…so I’m allowing myself to explore more hopeful options.I'm 70/30 he is staying. Next year will certainly suck if we keep him over someone like Harbaugh
I'm 70/30 he is staying. Next year will certainly suck if we keep him over someone like Harbaugh
damn i dont like those odds
PS - DJT just endorsed Harbaugh. Don't let your constitutes see your new redboard name!
Almost wondering if the Buc FO/owners are trying to work a deal with a potential candidate - but keeping Todd on the hook until something is ironed out? We don’t want a repeating firing Dungy, missing the originals target, causing a desperate negotiation with Al Davis for Jon Gruden… would like to think they’ve learned..From all indications, it seems that Mr. Bowles is going to remain on in 2026.
Not sure thats right. I think he meets with the owners today.
Weird almost to think that Bowles must be in the first group of HC fires or something is wrong. or, even historically speaking within the Bucs organization. December fires includes some HC who did nothing and Gruden was a mid-Jan fire, three weeks or so after the equivalent Black Monday press conference.
Anything is possible though and there is definitely a path, narrow as it might be, for Bowles to navigate. Just dont think "all indications" point to that conclusion. If they did the Bucs would already be out with a "vote of confidence." Or, Arians (supposedly inTampa now) would have tested waters on his show.
I could just be reading waaay too much into the tea leaves.
what's bizarre is that there are plenty of better options out there
the best option should Tampa become available would be Baltimore, well Harbaugh was just ax'ed from there
Tampa have to be up there as a top choice given the current talent, weak division and a top 15 QB currently that you are not tied to in year 2 should you decide to move on.
So you dont get Harbaugh, but i'm sure we were all be pumped with Kubiak as well. Heck, even McCarthy, even though i dont want him
I'm sure Baltimore doesnt now who their next head coach is yet...yet they fired a guy that is 10x the coach of Bowles.
Almost wondering if the Buc FO/owners are trying to work a deal with a potential candidate - but keeping Todd on the hook until something is ironed out? We don’t want a repeating firing Dungy, missing the originals target, causing a desperate negotiation with Al Davis for Jon Gruden… would like to think they’ve learned..From all indications, it seems that Mr. Bowles is going to remain on in 2026.
Not sure thats right. I think he meets with the owners today.
Weird almost to think that Bowles must be in the first group of HC fires or something is wrong. or, even historically speaking within the Bucs organization. December fires includes some HC who did nothing and Gruden was a mid-Jan fire, three weeks or so after the equivalent Black Monday press conference.
Anything is possible though and there is definitely a path, narrow as it might be, for Bowles to navigate. Just dont think "all indications" point to that conclusion. If they did the Bucs would already be out with a "vote of confidence." Or, Arians (supposedly inTampa now) would have tested waters on his show.
I could just be reading waaay too much into the tea leaves.
thats a good point because it IS a very real possibility.
It is also very real possibility that the Bucs have a process, just as Bowles explained and just as you would hope for a well-run business.
Its also very possible that the fan expectation is the flawed piece of the puzzle.
The EXTRA angst on these boards about Bowles over the last couple days stems from a disconnect between reality (not fired yet) and an expectation ("he sucks so he will be fired immediately"). As informed as everyone is around here, its at least possible . .. as crazy as it may seem . . .that the "expectation" side ("fire his ass immediately") may have been off all along.
Maybe :-)
Rick Stroud basically just tweeted that Bowles is back
Rick Stroud basically just tweeted that Bowles is back
could you post the tweet?
i think you mean this
"Bucs coach Todd Bowles has met with ownership and is having meetings with his coaches individually today. Things seem to be progressing as normal but at minimum, there will be staff changes. Perhaps significant ones. But there’s developments every day in the league, so everything is fluid."
Rick Stroud basically just tweeted that Bowles is back
could you post the tweet?
i think you mean this
"Bucs coach Todd Bowles has met with ownership and is having meetings with his coaches individually today. Things seem to be progressing as normal but at minimum, there will be staff changes. Perhaps significant ones. But there’s developments every day in the league, so everything is fluid."
yes that's the tweet. how do you take that?
Is your stance he is going to fire his staff today and then the Bucs fire Bowles after that lmao. He may fire his staff but the fact that he survived that meeting has basically all but guaranteed he sticks.
do you feel differently?
Hey guys it was real. I'll be back when they get rid of Bowles. Maybe a while with our dumbass owners.
Interesting that one of the “Joes” articles just informed folks that Emily Mayfield “liked” a post in X regarding how many teams are inquiring with Harbaugh’s agent about potential interest…
