the knees...i guess the question is...why didn't we just let it happen on the first play?
i am with you, we lose that game if we actually force a field goal....probably get the ball back with half the time AT BEST
then, we are only down 2 and would be playing for a field goal and best case scenario would be a Chase McLaughin miss field goal to win the game.
Whereas this took it out of the Kicker's hands and we had to win with our offense.
hopefully Chase gets it together fast because given our injuries on the offensive line we can't be affording to be leaving points off the board
looking at the play again I dont think we let them score
Both McCollum and Winfield Jr took bad angles but it worked in the Bucs favor with young player mistakes.
the knees...i guess the question is...why didn't we just let it happen on the first play?
i am with you, we lose that game if we actually force a field goal....probably get the ball back with half the time AT BEST
then, we are only down 2 and would be playing for a field goal and best case scenario would be a Chase McLaughin miss field goal to win the game.
Whereas this took it out of the Kicker's hands and we had to win with our offense.
hopefully Chase gets it together fast because given our injuries on the offensive line we can't be affording to be leaving points off the board
I think analytics indicated that we would see what they did with their first play and make a decision on the second play.
Coaches think points are the enemy at the end of the game, and they certainly can be, but the bigger enemy is time. Period. We know what we have in Baker with four downs every first down and a full compliment of timeouts. There are many others seeing what I am seeing which is, with McClaugLin begging to get cut, we couldn’t leave us with seconds (as opposed to minutes) and chance with fucking Chase.
Brilliant management by the Buc’s coaching staff. Brilliant.
I think analytics indicated that we would see what they did with their first play and make a decision on the second play.
So the one-yard run that was given up on the first play is what flipped the analytics?
Prior to first down, the Texans had a 59.9 win percentage.
After the first down run for one yard, the Texans had a 57.8 win percentage. The win percentage lowered after the one-yard run.
I don't think this newest nugget of SIPOMA will go any differently than the first.
the knees...i guess the question is...why didn't we just let it happen on the first play?
i am with you, we lose that game if we actually force a field goal....probably get the ball back with half the time AT BEST
then, we are only down 2 and would be playing for a field goal and best case scenario would be a Chase McLaughin miss field goal to win the game.
Whereas this took it out of the Kicker's hands and we had to win with our offense.
hopefully Chase gets it together fast because given our injuries on the offensive line we can't be affording to be leaving points off the board
I think analytics indicated that we would see what they did with their first play and make a decision on the second play.
Coaches think points are the enemy at the end of the game, and they certainly can be, but the bigger enemy is time. Period. We know what we have in Baker with four downs every first down and a full compliment of timeouts. There are many others seeing what I am seeing which is, with McClaugLin begging to get cut, we couldn’t leave us with seconds (as opposed to minutes) and chance with fucking Chase.
Brilliant management by the Buc’s coaching staff. Brilliant.
but our coaching staff isn’t brilliant which is why I’m thinking it was dumb luck
Unless all of a sudden Bowles went to coaching school. Did we get a time management guy who maybe is our unsung hero?
Unless Bowles admitted it, I think we just have the football gods on our side for that game
but our coaching staff isn’t brilliant which is why I’m thinking it was dumb luck
Unless all of a sudden Bowles went to coaching school. Did we get a time management guy who maybe is our unsung hero?
Unless Bowles admitted it, I think we just have the football gods on our side for that game
I saw someone break it down on Fox sports. We let them score. Watch our D linemen, they basically stand up and make no effort towards Chubb.
Do yoyu think a team who is allowing like 2 yards a carry is all of a sudden going to just allow that big chunk play? I'll answer......no.
How you feel about our coaching staff doesn't change anything about how this game was played from a clock management standpoint.
Perfection.
it is impossible bowles came up with something like that. I know it sounds good but no way!
also. not taking timeouts after baker run and prior to the last pass play
that was pure clock management cluelessness, nothing else!
also. not taking timeouts after baker run and prior to the last pass play
that was pure clock management cluelessness, nothing else!
Yeah, all that worked out. But the clock was handled poorly on that drive.
Not a huge fan of the new clock guy, so far.
also. not taking timeouts after baker run and prior to the last pass play
that was pure clock management cluelessness, nothing else!
How so??? We had nine seconds on the clock with two timeouts. So the entire playbook with that down and distance is available to you. Not sure it could have been handled any better.
I realize some on here think Bowles is an uninspired, arcane, dolt but, people can get better.
W. By design.
Sunday is the true definition of a trap game.
The Buc's in their history, when favored by 7 or more, lose the game outright 83% of the time.
I had us at 3-1 after 4 games and I still do. I think we lose the Jets and beat Philly.
Criticizing the Bucs clock management at the end?
lol
also. not taking timeouts after baker run and prior to the last pass play
that was pure clock management cluelessness, nothing else!
Yeah, all that worked out. But the clock was handled poorly on that drive.
Not a huge fan of the new clock guy, so far.
Huh?
the clock was handled correctly
1. they forced Houston to use TOs and
2. were able to RUN in a TD (ie the Houston defense had to defend both options) and that is because they had their own TOs, AND
3. There was 6 seconds to go on what would have been 3rd and goal from the 2 if they dont get a TD so they could run BOTH of their next two plays (I think the Bucs even still have a TO)
4. Houston did not have time left to come back
Its not taking the TOs early (ie, NOT panicking) that helped the Bucs win. That and generally having a well-coached team with strong veterans on both sides, so no wasting TOs on procedural stuff
Bowles
"We had another timeout. We were going to try to run the ball and then if we didn't get that we were going to call a timeout and go from there,"
All I know is that the last touchdown by the Texans was completely allowed by our D.
Will quietly go as one of my favorite plays ever.
We know what we have in Baker. After just more than 2 years in, the rest of the world is finding out. If Baker has the ball in his hand with one score needed....you are f@cked if you are the opposition.
On the Bucs website
""Once you have all your timeouts and you get inside the 20, a minute-and-thirty is a lifetime," he said. "It only takes four or five seconds to run a play. We figured we had our timeouts, they were playing the pass, so we could afford to run the ball and still call a timeout and still have another one in our hip pocket as long as it was a quick hit-and-run right there. We were confident in that."
The Buccaneers snapped the ball from the Houston 45 with 52 seconds left after the Texans had used their first timeout. Running back Bucky Irving took a short pass and turned in a remarkable tackle-breaking drive to get it all the way down to the 23, and at that point Bowles used his first timeout with 45 seconds left. The Bucs then got off two snaps in the span of eight seconds, with Baker Mayfield completing passes of five yards to Irving and 11 to Mike Evans, putting the ball at the seven. It was this part of the sequence that likely had viewers biting their nails, as the Bucs still didn't use a timeout as the clock rolled own to 13 seconds before the next snap.
After the Otton catch at the two, with nine seconds to work with and two timeouts still in their bag, the Buccaneers felt like they had a full array of options to get the ball into the end zone. They believed they could run the ball at least once and possibly twice, use their timeouts and, if necessary, throw it on fourth-and-goal. It never came to that, as running back Rachaad White took a second-and-goal handoff over right guard and powered his way across the line for the game-winning score.
The thing to consider is HOUSTON taking its timeouts, right? Its not like the Bucs are asleep at the witch lmao. The Bucs are letting the time run off while still keeping enough to score because they are confident they are going to score (3 plays from the 2?) and don't want to leave the Texans with much time.
Sort of the opposite of what the Texans did when they scored
