i thought the handling of the clock on that last drive was great. With the potential of other teams to start the ball at the 35 and with their kicker being a stud...they literally need like a 20 yard pass to attempt a long field that fairbairn would likely have nailed.
Heck, i wasn't even comfortable with 6 seconds
i thought the handling of the clock on that last drive was great. With the potential of other teams to start the ball at the 35 and with their kicker being a stud...they literally need like a 20 yard pass to attempt a long field that fairbairn would likely have nailed.
Heck, i wasn't even comfortable with 6 seconds
yes I agree the 6 seconds was still nervy.
The thing that is weird about the criticism is that the clock management was obviously intentional (ie the Bucs are not asleep at the switch) and, frankly, it shows a lot of confidence, so i thought it would be something lauded here.
In fact, I imagined some of Bowles harshest critics discounting it by crediting only the new clock guy lol.
i thought the handling of the clock on that last drive was great. With the potential of other teams to start the ball at the 35 and with their kicker being a stud...they literally need like a 20 yard pass to attempt a long field that fairbairn would likely have nailed.
Heck, i wasn't even comfortable with 6 seconds
yes I agree the 6 seconds was still nervy.
The thing that is weird about the criticism is that the clock management was obviously intentional (ie the Bucs are not asleep at the switch) and, frankly, it shows a lot of confidence, so i thought it would be something lauded here.
In fact, I imagined some of Bowles harshest critics discounting it by crediting only the new clock guy lol.
i mean, they had to learn from their mistakes.
look back at our 2023 game against Houston. Appreciate Stroud is a one year wonder but at that time, we scored with 46 seconds left to take the lead 37-33 and Stroud went ahead and executed a 6 play drive for 75 yards in 40 seconds.
From Greg Auman…
Good on the reporter for asking the question.
Todd Bowles, asked if his defense allowed Nick Chubb to score a touchdown late Monday night to get the ball back, says they won so it doesn’t matter one way or the other. Interesting response.
I was right!! Nice job Buc’s brass!
From Greg Auman…
Good on the reporter for asking the question.
Todd Bowles, asked if his defense allowed Nick Chubb to score a touchdown late Monday night to get the ball back, says they won so it doesn’t matter one way or the other. Interesting response.
I was right!! Nice job Buc’s brass!
I dont take this as a resounding yes that he let them score. It's not like it ruins the integrity of the game that he'd be worried about admitting that. Shit, teams do it all the time. I remember Bellecheck had his team commit a safety for field position battle. Also, how many times does as a running back go down and NOT sore.
If anything, his laxed response would make it seem to me that HE DID NOT allow them to score and it wounded up working out. Of course, he should have taken the credit for this genius move but Todd seems like an ethical guy, man of God, so i dont think he could have lied there.
Listen, I have been pleasantly pleased with the defense and Bowles through 2 weeks. Let's give him credit...but likewise being a fan of this team, in years past....he would not be this smart to do this. So that's why some of us are just skeptical.
You do you realize that if this is true (it's def not) and Chubb goes down at the 1, it's essentially gg.
And nobody would be asking him if he did it intentionally.
Bowles giving an oddly daft answer doesn't mean he told the defense to get a stop on first then allow a TD on second.
It's lucky... And it's especially lucky because Chubb has taken the knee in this scenario twice before.
You do you realize that if this is true (it's def not) and Chubb goes down at the 1, it's essentially gg.
And nobody would be asking him if he did it intentionally.
Bowles giving an oddly daft answer doesn't mean he told the defense to get a stop on first then allow a TD on second.
It's lucky... And it's especially lucky because Chubb has taken the knee in this scenario twice before.
Or, it’s completely true and you should start giving Bowles some more credit. My son’s buddy writes for the Bucs and he told my son that the buzz there was that the Buc’s let them score.
It’s okay to be wrong here with your read on Bowles in 2025.
We all want to win.
Listen, I have been pleasantly pleased with the defense and Bowles through 2 weeks. Let's give him credit...but likewise being a fan of this team, in years past....he would not be this smart to do this. So that's why some of us are just skeptical.
All of this.
Watched that Chubb TD run play 20 times now.
initial reaction to the idea that Bowles would actually let HOU score there seemed ridiculous. but when you watch that play, particularly the DL, and watch just about any other TB defensive play vs the run, and well, it does look like the TB DL took that play off. They really didn't look like they're trying. No pop at the snap by anyone, and no real push either. In fact, for basically the first time all game the HOU OL as a group gets the better of the TB DL and pushes them back en masse. And Vea actually goes backwards.
So as wild as it seems to me, I think that maybe Bowles zigged where he always zagged in the past. He put his faith in the offense instead of the defense for once.
Maybe.
TKraz said he doubted it was on purpose, but then he got the vibe from players at OneBuc that it was indeed on purpose.
The Texans had no choice but to get the score when they could. If they stopped at the 1 there's no guarantee they could punch it in against this Bucs D.
Watched that Chubb TD run play 20 times now.
initial reaction to the idea that Bowles would actually let HOU score there seemed ridiculous. but when you watch that play, particularly the DL, and watch just about any other TB defensive play vs the run, and well, it does look like the TB DL took that play off. They really didn't look like they're trying. No pop at the snap by anyone, and no real push either. In fact, for basically the first time all game the HOU OL as a group gets the better of the TB DL and pushes them back en masse. And Vea actually goes backwards.
So as wild as it seems to me, I think that maybe Bowles zigged where he always zagged in the past. He put his faith in the offense instead of the defense for once.
Maybe.
Correct. We have to start giving everyone their due. Our special teams needs to be chided to high hell, but other than that, we have made all the right decisions seemingly, in the first two games.
That’s pretty interesting, l haven’t watched the play as closely as you have.Watched that Chubb TD run play 20 times now.
initial reaction to the idea that Bowles would actually let HOU score there seemed ridiculous. but when you watch that play, particularly the DL, and watch just about any other TB defensive play vs the run, and well, it does look like the TB DL took that play off. They really didn't look like they're trying. No pop at the snap by anyone, and no real push either. In fact, for basically the first time all game the HOU OL as a group gets the better of the TB DL and pushes them back en masse. And Vea actually goes backwards.
So as wild as it seems to me, I think that maybe Bowles zigged where he always zagged in the past. He put his faith in the offense instead of the defense for once.
Maybe.
I do know I was shocked when they scored - even though we shut them down on 4th and goal, and Chubb hadn’t looked that good all game (or in years) and like everyone, I’ve heard the rumors.
Very interesting.
That’s pretty interesting, l haven’t watched the play as closely as you have.Watched that Chubb TD run play 20 times now.
initial reaction to the idea that Bowles would actually let HOU score there seemed ridiculous. but when you watch that play, particularly the DL, and watch just about any other TB defensive play vs the run, and well, it does look like the TB DL took that play off. They really didn't look like they're trying. No pop at the snap by anyone, and no real push either. In fact, for basically the first time all game the HOU OL as a group gets the better of the TB DL and pushes them back en masse. And Vea actually goes backwards.
So as wild as it seems to me, I think that maybe Bowles zigged where he always zagged in the past. He put his faith in the offense instead of the defense for once.
Maybe.
I do know I was shocked when they scored - even though we shut them down on 4th and goal, and Chubb hadn’t looked that good all game (or in years) and like everyone, I’ve heard the rumors.
Very interesting.
Please don't take my word for it though. go find it on YT, I think I used "nick chubb 25 yard TD run" to search for it. it was about a :31 second clip, iirc. just turned the sound off and found the spot where the play awas about o start and rewatched it a bunch of times. Each time I kept my eyes on one player, then watched it again but focused on the next DL, and so on.
Then, because i didn't pay attention exactly to every other run defense by our guys, i went and found a different run play and watched that a few times. there's a remarkable difference in their apparent effort levels, to my eye anyway.
Y'all gonna tell me the moon landing is fake next?
Again, TWICE Chubb has taken a knee at the one to seal a win. Of all the RBs to roll the dice on, he is not the one.
I don't think Bowles did it but if he did, it's actually pretty stupid. Again a knee at the 1 and it's a chip shot, no ball back, and we are calling for his head
Y'all gonna tell me the moon landing is fake next?
Again, TWICE Chubb has taken a knee at the one to seal a win. Of all the RBs to roll the dice on, he is not the one.
I don't think Bowles did it but if he did, it's actually pretty stupid. Again a knee at the 1 and it's a chip shot, no ball back, and we are calling for his head
Have you watched McLaughlin kick this year? You are literally making a decision on whose hands you want the game to be in, Baker’s or McLaughlin’s. I think he could get cut if he has one more miss. It really puts us in a bind.
