I'm not against the Glazers owning the team, but I do believe with all of their "interests" spread everywhere they should hire a President to manage the team as a whole. Somebody who could focus on the team and team alone. Kind of like Denver did with John Elway.
That's a good idea. I too am not against the Glazers, and think people don't realize how bad we used to be when they invoke the franchise's history.
I'm not against the Glazers owning the team, but I do believe with all of their "interests" spread everywhere they should hire a President to manage the team as a whole. Somebody who could focus on the team and team alone. Kind of like Denver did with John Elway.
That's a good idea. I too am not against the Glazers, and think people don't realize how bad we used to be when they invoke the franchise's history.
Exactly, I honestly believe they care about winning but may need some football guidance. Start off with a Team President....then new GM.....and finally a new COACH
Definitely not against the Glazers, who made the very unusual and bold move to get Jon Gruden. A very frustrating year, no question. IMO, we need a SERIOUS upgrade to our offensive game-planning. If Schiano refuses to bring in a more aggressive up-tempo style OC, he needs to go. We are WASTING a very talented young QB in this style offense; he could be SO much better in an up-temo offense...
The op is a real crybaby. You gotta stick with tour team through the tough times. That's what a fan is and why my friends that are Vikings fans and browns fans think many of us buc fans suck. They are correct.. just pop in your championship tape and get a grip vagina.
I have watched a lot of bad football as a long-term Bucs fan. When your team is not making progress or underperforming versus the talent on the roster, it is frustrating. I went to the Bears game yesterday instead of watch the Bucs. I think my biggest fear is that Schiano is too stubborn for today's NFL and he is no X's and O's guru. We could have the same results next year or worse. I have nothing against Dom or the Glazers, but I think the Dungy to Gruden move really made them think they had the Midas touch. I think Dom stays if he wanted Kelly and the Glazers could not deliver him. I think Shiano may have been a Glazer call.
I paid hard earned money to watch a college team play against pro teams most of this year. We saw inept play calling and horrific clock management. The team was ill prepared to go into the regular season and frankly we were not even competitive for most of the year. Today's debacle against New Orleans makes this regime Winless against them. They put up 40 points on us today and we looked like a team that did not care. The tom foolery with special teams at the end of the first half was absolutely the dumbest crap I have ever seen. Nobody does that and why the heck would they ? We're we trying to fool them we were gonna punt with 40 seconds left? Please for the love of God get these idiots out of here. I will not renew to watch this type of idiocy. No one was fooled. It was just a pathetic showing and an ill prepared team and if I hear we were out coached again, I may have to throw my shoe at Schiano in his presser. If we are out coached repeatedly, then Greg needs to go. He is not ready for this level. Not even close. Maybe a coordinator or assistant but not a head coach. This team quit today. As for the O line....worst unit on the team. We have guys like number 29 who don't belong on the field and this team is soft. The OLine plays soft. Their is no heart. I was embarrassed that we got it handed to us today. It was an example of high school vs the pros. Please sell this team. Give us an ownership that gives a damn. And as for those lousy excuses for screens at Ray Jay....get real. If you can't get the Tampa Sports Authority to update then step up you bunch of carpet bangers. Your team sucks and I am my neighbors are done supporting your sorry asses. I am fed up. Done. I am becoming a Lightning Fan. It's over you cheap lousy owners. I can't stand you. An ex. Buc Fan
Does no good posting that here ...they will never see it. Go to www.buccaneers.com, select "Contact Us" at the bottom, select "Ticket Sales" as the group you want to contact and paste in your comments. The only way the Glazer's will make a move is if they feel a total revolt coming from the fan base ...and thats a big IF seeing as they're playing with house money already due to the large TV contracts.
there are never any good decisions at 3am....
I've contemplated making this thread, but I've stayed away from it.NEWSFLASH GLAZERS: We are NOT okay with this crap. You may be, and you may think we're cool with it, but we are NOT. And we're fed up. Sell the team if you don't care enough to fix this. Worst owners in football.
That's a good idea. I too am not against the Glazers, and think people don't realize how bad we used to be when they invoke the franchise's history.
With respect, it may be you who doesn't realize how close we are to those days. The expansion record was expansion in a different era. Nobody expected it to go well and frankly being in an NFC Championship game a few years in was better than most expansion teams manage. I'd rather have the 0-2x and NFC Championship soon after that than a few wins in the first two years and no playoffs after that. That said ...Article in the Trib pointed this out:
With Sunday's loss, the lads have now lost at least 12 games in three of the last five seasons. It's not quite as wretched as 1983-86, when the Bucs dropped 14 games in the three of four seasons.
It's not as bad ... but it's close enough as to not really be worth arguing about.
Does no good posting that here ...they will never see it. Go to www.buccaneers.com, select "Contact Us" at the bottom, select "Ticket Sales" as the group you want to contact and paste in your comments. The only way the Glazer's will make a move is if they feel a total revolt coming from the fan base ...and thats a big IF seeing as they're playing with house money already due to the large TV contracts.
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Good grief people are so quick to criticize. He said quite clearly that he already did that so relax...
I know many will be shocked but I just have lost my interest in throwing my money away. I wrote the Bucs and informed them that I am done.
I will be a Bucs fan for the rest of my life.Unless of course they move to LA, then maybe I will root for the Dolphins or something.
Just because there is a certain type of sports fan (which exists in all fan-bases in all cities in all countries) who cannot countenance any remarks which betray anything but 100% support in your team at all times: I am a Bucs fan. I will always be a Bucs fans. I cannot be anything but a Bucs fans in the sport of football. I am trapped.However I certainly can empathize with OP. I hate* the Bucs owners. I hate the Bucs staff. I support the following teams: Lightning, USF, Rays, Everton and Bucs.The Bucs are by far the least exciting of those teams (and USF were pretty bad this year). I'm not 100% sold on Taggart or the admin at USF but Skip did a lot of damage and it's too early to judge there. As for the Rays -- they are forward-thinking, smart people. Wish they had more money to spend but I get it ... and they certainly do the best with what they have. The Lightning? Forward-thinking smart people who invest heavily in the stadium and the team. Everton (EPL) have a new manager who is highly regarded, smart and forward-thinking. The Bucs are boring, stale, no direction, and no plan (Chip Kelly to Schiano). I do not enjoy having to watch the games each week.I'll be here. I'll carry on. But I am not going to pretend I'm not bored by this team. Talent-wise I think we are good to great when healthy. Some gaps of course but who doesn't? We have above average talent. DVOA has us above a lot of teams with better records. Do I think it's the players of the staff responsible for under-performing? Obviously I think the staff. We have good players -- sadly the owners and staff just can't get out of the players way and give them what they need to succeed.*"Sports hate" ... relax guy who loves scoring MB points by saying "hate is a strong word, don't use it in sports, I am so much better than you!"
Glazer boys won't be getting my money anymore if they keep Schiano. I'll still be a fan and watch every game on TV, but I'm not giving them my money.
I paid hard earned money to watch a college team play against pro teams most of this year. We saw inept play calling and horrific clock management. The team was ill prepared to go into the regular season and frankly we were not even competitive for most of the year. Today's debacle against New Orleans makes this regime Winless against them. They put up 40 points on us today and we looked like a team that did not care. The tom foolery with special teams at the end of the first half was absolutely the dumbest crap I have ever seen. Nobody does that and why the heck would they ? We're we trying to fool them we were gonna punt with 40 seconds left? Please for the love of God get these idiots out of here. I will not renew to watch this type of idiocy. No one was fooled. It was just a pathetic showing and an ill prepared team and if I hear we were out coached again, I may have to throw my shoe at Schiano in his presser. If we are out coached repeatedly, then Greg needs to go. He is not ready for this level. Not even close. Maybe a coordinator or assistant but not a head coach. This team quit today. As for the O line....worst unit on the team. We have guys like number 29 who don't belong on the field and this team is soft. The OLine plays soft. Their is no heart. I was embarrassed that we got it handed to us today. It was an example of high school vs the pros. Please sell this team. Give us an ownership that gives a damn. And as for those lousy excuses for screens at Ray Jay....get real. If you can't get the Tampa Sports Authority to update then step up you bunch of carpet bangers. Your team sucks and I am my neighbors are done supporting your sorry asses. I am fed up. Done. I am becoming a Lightning Fan. It's over you cheap lousy owners. I can't stand you. An ex. Buc Fan
A couple points.Leonard is out there because they have no one better right now. That could change before next season. And I am sure he is doing his best filling that hole on the defense.I think Schiano gets one more year. The Glazers will want to see marked improvement in all areas, especially at the QB position. So Schiano's fate depends on Glennon's success or lack thereof.A Lightning fan? I always joke with people when hockey comes up in the conversation. I tell them I am not sure what end of the stick you are supposed to hold.
Yet the Bucs passed on quality Free Agent Talent in Brent Grimes (Pro Bowl), Sean Smith, Antoine Cason and Derek Cox. We also let go of Aquib Talib (Pro Bowl). Good Coaches get players to adapt. We don't need a bunch of Minions following a Dictator. We need playmakers that a coach can mold into one cohesive unit.
That's a good idea. I too am not against the Glazers, and think people don't realize how bad we used to be when they invoke the franchise's history.
With respect, it may be you who doesn't realize how close we are to those days. The expansion record was expansion in a different era. Nobody expected it to go well and frankly being in an NFC Championship game a few years in was better than most expansion teams manage. I'd rather have the 0-2x and NFC Championship soon after that than a few wins in the first two years and no playoffs after that. That said ...Article in the Trib pointed this out:
With Sunday's loss, the lads have now lost at least 12 games in three of the last five seasons. It's not quite as wretched as 1983-86, when the Bucs dropped 14 games in the three of four seasons.
I'm not talking about record necessarily. The 0-16 Lions were not worse than the Bucs at their worst.I'm talking about ownership running the franchise solely for money regardless of winning and being worse than the average NFL owner. Invoking Culverhouse as some do is ridiculous, and regardless of our record or the Glazer's competence in surrounding themselves with good football people, I believe the Glazer's intentions are nowhere near Culverhouse levels.
Glazer boys won't be getting my money anymore if they keep Schiano. I'll still be a fan and watch every game on TV, but I'm not giving them my money.
Time for a new alias and to leave the cash in the Glaziers pockets.
