Wins NFC Player of the Week and his snaps have diminished each week. Makes no sense.
This can't be right. Todd Bowles himself said that he was going to go with the "hot hand" at RB - twice. And if it flies out of a coach's mouth, it's reality.
I would advise you to check your information, here.
i think we all agree we want to see more Tucker but this is a scenario that either
1 - Bowles/Coen are incompetent
or
2 - they are being askes to go with White/Bucky due to draft status
think they gave Tucker one drive yesterday and it was a "cant win" drive deep in our own territory. Feel like Wirfs may have had one of his many false start penalties on that drive too
And if it flies out of a coach's mouth, it's reality.
I would advise you to check your information, here.
yeah . . . check your information!
Let's hear from the guy who actually IS running the offense:
“We want to obviously get guys involved,” offensive coordinator Liam Coen said. “But Rachaad is the guy. He’s going to start the game and he’s going to keep playing, and Bucky (Irving) will get his specific stuff and be able to play. And when Sean (Tucker) needs to go in there and give those guys a blow, he’ll do a great job as well.
“Ultimately, man, it’s Rachaad’s show,” Coen said.
Naturally, this was from the exact same presser where Bowles is being quoted.
Weird...
It's cute that you think you're making a valid point, here. The gullible and ignorant soak up coach-speak and press clippings.
WHOA!!!!
Wins NFC Player of the Week and his snaps have diminished each week. Makes no sense.
This can't be right. Todd Bowles himself said that he was going to go with the "hot hand" at RB - twice. And if it flies out of a coach's mouth, it's reality.
I would advise you to check your information, here.
i think we all agree we want to see more Tucker but this is a scenario that either
1 - Bowles/Coen are incompetent
or
2 - they are being askes to go with White/Bucky due to draft status
3 - they wanted to give Bucky Irving the top load at RB and so that takes him pout of ST
4. White doesnt play ST
5. Tucker had a big runback against falcons
6. they trust White and Irving more (at this moment) and both played well IN GAME
I also want Tucker to get more carries, but not everything is some conspiracy or incompetence.
On #1, someone will be along quickly to say that Bowles is holding Coen back from playing Tucker lol
Remember when it was Bowles who was forcing Canales to run!!!
The circular world of the Red Board had "White Apologists" (to use the common troll vernacular) discounting Irving's running success as "premature" (lets see White out of street clothes and playing with the 1s) and "gadgets and play design and garbage time," but Tucker's success in one game means "he MUST BE #1 RB . . over White . . who should be #1 . . oh . . wait . ."
"dammit"
Btw, I once read here that Bucky's running load this season would be like Edmunds/Tucker last season?
:-)
7. They got behind
PR - "#Bucs HC Todd Bowles says on Sean Tucker's lack of usage - it'll change every week. They got behind so that limited how much he played in the game."
Wins NFC Player of the Week and his snaps have diminished each week. Makes no sense.
This can't be right. Todd Bowles himself said that he was going to go with the "hot hand" at RB - twice. And if it flies out of a coach's mouth, it's reality.
I would advise you to check your information, here.
i think we all agree we want to see more Tucker but this is a scenario that either
1 - Bowles/Coen are incompetent
or
2 - they are being askes to go with White/Bucky due to draft status
3 - they wanted to give Bucky Irving the top load at RB and so that takes him pout of ST
4. White doesnt play ST
5. Tucker had a big runback against falcons
6. they trust White and Irving more (at this moment) and both played well IN GAME
I also want Tucker to get more carries, but not everything is some conspiracy or incompetence.
On #1, someone will be along quickly to say that Bowles is holding Coen back from playing Tucker lol
Remember when it was Bowles who was forcing Canales to run!!!
Tucker not being part of the game plan yesterday was incompetence, I believe. Brought to by the same people who ran a fake punt with the division on the line in the most obvious fake punt situation possible after running a fucking flea flicker on 1st and 10 in Falcons territory down 7. Here's an idea. Run your best run with Tucker behind Wirfs. Again. And again. And again. And then play action off of it.
7. They got behind
PR - "#Bucs HC Todd Bowles says on Sean Tucker's lack of usage - it'll change every week. They got behind so that limited how much he played in the game."
lolz
I can't imagine being simple-minded enough to swallow this stuff.
i mean people actually thought there was a QB battle going on last pre-season because of coach speak so i can see it
I also think White and Bucky were relatively effective in the game, 4.8 yards a carry so they didnt feel the need to go to the "third guy in their eyes"
Tucker has the whole "not drafted" thing going against him so it will take an injury for him to get an actual look
And dont shoot me, i want him in there more but they just dont see him as a long term option so will spite their face here for career growth opportunities for Bucky and White.
Wins NFC Player of the Week and his snaps have diminished each week. Makes no sense.
This can't be right. Todd Bowles himself said that he was going to go with the "hot hand" at RB - twice. And if it flies out of a coach's mouth, it's reality.
I would advise you to check your information, here.
i think we all agree we want to see more Tucker but this is a scenario that either
1 - Bowles/Coen are incompetent
or
2 - they are being askes to go with White/Bucky due to draft status
3 - they wanted to give Bucky Irving the top load at RB and so that takes him pout of ST
4. White doesnt play ST
5. Tucker had a big runback against falcons
6. they trust White and Irving more (at this moment) and both played well IN GAME
I also want Tucker to get more carries, but not everything is some conspiracy or incompetence.
On #1, someone will be along quickly to say that Bowles is holding Coen back from playing Tucker lol
Remember when it was Bowles who was forcing Canales to run!!!
Tucker not being part of the game plan yesterday was incompetence, I believe
No Way! Didn't see that coming :-)
Sean Tucker not getting enough snaps YESTERDAY isn't really a reason the Bucs lost?
The Bucs had about 400 yds of offense and 3tds yesterday. The other two RBs are about a 1/3 of yardage production alone (and a TD? )in a game where they only ran about 16 runs because they were BEHIND most of the game.
What snaps or series do you want to take from the other two, even with hindsight?
i mean people actually thought there was a QB battle going on last pre-season because of coach speak so i can see it
I think most people thought there was QB battle going on last preseason because there was a QB battle going last preseason, not because Bowles said so. Mayfield was signed for $6M, which isn't starting QB money. Both players were listed as starters on the depth chart. Both players started a game. When Mayfield was pulled after two series in Game 3, it was pretty clear he was the guy they were moving forward with.
After being given his $100M contract this offseason, Mayfield only played one series in the preseason. That's vastly different than what happened in 2023. There was no QB battle in 2024, but there was in 2023.
i mean people actually thought there was a QB battle going on last pre-season because of coach speak so i can see it
I think most people thought there was QB battle going on last preseason because there was a QB battle going last preseason
LOL . . . . Biggs. . . dishonest AF. Plenty of your GATOR Boys on here whining about Trask being the victim of Mayfield's experience and using coach speak . .
"Asked Tuesday if the battle for the Bucs' starting quarterback job has tightened in recent days, offensive coordinator Dave Canales responded: "Oh, absolutely."
"It has been good. The first couple of days, the experience that Baker brings just playing in games, being in camps, going through installs, you can see where the offense was gelling really well," he said, via the team's official transcript. "The timing of the snap is really critical for us, so probably a little bit of an edge for Baker to start off in terms of the smoothness of the offense. But it just took a couple of days for Kyle to really settle in and then what we saw in the last two practices, Kyle really showed what he can do, stretching the field with his arm, getting the ball out quickly, and making decisions. I am really excited about both of those guys and the progression that they have made throughout the last couple of days."
i mean people actually thought there was a QB battle going on last pre-season because of coach speak so i can see it
I think most people thought there was QB battle going on last preseason because there was a QB battle going last preseason, not because Bowles said so. Mayfield was signed for $6M, which isn't starting QB money. Both players were listed as starters on the depth chart. Both players started a game. When Mayfield was pulled after two series in Game 3, it was pretty clear he was the guy they were moving forward with.
After being given his $100M contract this offseason, Mayfield only played one series in the preseason. That's vastly different than what happened in 2023. There was no QB battle in 2024, but there was in 2023.
see. you proved my point. you bought into it despite it being obvious Trask has little to no chance once Baker was brought in...to at least start week 1
so many times the veteran is brought in and starts week 1 and loses the job by week 5 like Boussard on first things first was predicting
this is no different with someone believe Bowles words on the undrafted Tucker. Dude literally needs an injury to occur to get playing time. Or would need to break like a 90 yard run on his 1 carry to continue to get fed. It's not fair and i think he should get more carries when White...but alas, it's an uphill climb for the guy
see. you proved my point.
Actually, I proved you don’t have much of a point. As I laid out, the differences between the 2023 preseason and 2024 preseason are night and day. You can act as if that’s not the case if you like, but I’m a fan of reality.
so many times the veteran is brought in and starts week 1 and loses the job by week 5
So many times, you say? Then it should be pretty easy for you to give me 10-15 examples of those “so many times” over the last few seasons.
This can't be right. Todd Bowles himself said that he was going to go with the "hot hand" at RB - twice. And if it flies out of a coach's mouth, it's reality.
I would advise you to check your information, here.
Lol. I stopped directly engaging with the liquored-up litigator a month or so ago (and my experience here on the boards has been FAR more enjoyable).
But, point taken, sir!
i mean one guy is averaging 5.2 yards a carry with 76 attempts and the other is averaging 3.8 yards a carry with 67 attempts.
And, the other one is averaging 7.2 yards a carry. And, he's also the one who has had EASILY the best single game performance of any of the 3 backs.
they both were effective yesterday with Bucky at 4.9 YPC versus White 4.8 YPC.
Yep. They were.
Last week, against the best run defense they've faced all year, White was effective with 4.0 ypc. Bucky was at 2.6 ypc. Tucker had 5.8 ypc.
Again, after winning NFC Offensive Player of the Week, Tucker's role has been diminished EVERY week, even though he's been the most effective runner of the 3 backs.
Coen has to get him more snaps/carries.
