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White Tiger
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I remember the Doug Williams led Bucs went on a run winning several late season games, winning them all in the last minute. Media nicknamed us “the heart attack kids” - but I think that was just a 3 or 4 game stretch.

Just did a search on Buccaneers longest win streak, 6 games is our longest…

https://champsorchumps.us/team/nfl/tampa-bay-buccaneers/longest-winning-streaks

 
Posted : Nov. 4, 2024 12:05 pm
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Posted by: @jc5100

Our schedule was really front loaded this year. Think we're going to be 4-6 and then make a serious run. This is the path to the playoffs after being 4-6. 

@NYG W

@CAR W

vs LV W

@ LAC Split with DAL

@ DAL Split with Chargers

vs CAR W

vs NO W

At 10-7 with a strong NFC record and head to wins over Washington and Philly will get them in. 

Falcons also have some very hard games: @Vikings, @Broncos, @Commanders, vs Chargers. It's not impossible they collapse. 

not so sure 10-7 gets us in

1.Washington (7-2) - V PIT, @PHI, V DAL, VS TEN, @NO, V PHI, v FAL, @DAL - Assume 2 wins with Tennessee and New Orleans and say a split with Philly and Dallas and they are already at 11 wins which would put them ahead of us. Tiebreaker is meaningless here

2.Philadelphia (6-2) - @DAL, v WAS, @Rams, @ Ravens, v Panthers, vs Steelers, @WAS, DAL, NYG - Assume 2 wins with Panthers and NYG and a split with Dallas and Washington and they are at 10 wins.  That leaves @Rams, @Ravens, vs Steelers to muster up 1 win in which i could easily see them winning one of the Rams or Steelers games.  11 wins and tiebreaker is meaningless.  One team wins division, one gets in as a wild card

3. Detroit (7-1) - @Houston, v JAX, @Colts, VS Bears, vs Packers, vs Bills, @Bears, @49ers,Vikings - i mean they are likely the division winner but will easily take the Jaguars, Colts, at least a game from the Bears to get to 10 wins.  then they need to win 1 more of their remaining 6 games lol.  The tie breaker means very little here. 

4. Vikings (6-2) - @Jaguars, @Titans, @ Bears, v Cardinals, v Falcons, V Bears, @ Seattle, @Green Bay, @Detroit - so let's assume a split with the Bears, wins versus Jaguars, Titans, and you are at 9 wins.  Then maybe assume a split of the Cardinals/Falcons games which leaves them with 10 wins with Seattle, Green Bay, and Detroit.  Can they take 1 of those games to get to 11?  I think so.

5. Atlanta (6-3) - @Saints, @Broncos, @V Chargers, @Vikings, @Raiders, NYG, @Commanders, v Panthers - There will be a lot of prayers and hoping for them to fall off here but all else remaining consistent hard to see them losing to Raiders, Giants, and Panthers which gets them to 9 wins.  They then just need 1 win to own the tiebreaker and win division with Saints, Broncos, Chargers, Vikings, and Commanders.  Very likely. 

6.  NFC West Winner - let's just assume one team comes out of this division, but note that 3 teams have our record or better and that number goes to 4 teams if we lose to Chiefs tonight.  As the 49ers are the most likely team to go on a run and win the division, that's our only hope here in that the rest of them fall off. 

7. Green Bay (6-3) - @ Bears, 49ers, Dolphins, @Detroit, @Seattle, V Saints, @Vikings, Bears.  I mean the Dolphins, one of Bears games, and Saints all look very winnable.  That leaves the 49ers, Detroit, Seattle, Bears, and Vikings for them to nab 2 wins.  Seems achievable.

the NFC is very strong this year, 10 wins may get you in the AFC, but NFC is likely going to take 11 unless one of the teams ahead of us falls off.  Unfortunately, we look like one of the teams falling off with 2 straight losses and staring at 4 straight heading into the bye week

maybe they surprise versus Chiefs tonight but thats what it will take to get them back in this, otherwise, at 4-5, then 4-6...forget about it. 

 

 

 

 
Posted : Nov. 4, 2024 12:26 pm
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Posted by: @jc5100

Our schedule was really front loaded this year. Think we're going to be 4-6 and then make a serious run. This is the path to the playoffs after being 4-6. 

@NYG W

@CAR W

vs LV W

@ LAC Split with DAL

@ DAL Split with Chargers

vs CAR W

vs NO W

At 10-7 with a strong NFC record and head to wins over Washington and Philly will get them in. 

Falcons also have some very hard games: @Vikings, @Broncos, @Commanders, vs Chargers. It's not impossible they collapse. 

not so sure 10-7 gets us in

1.Washington (7-2) - V PIT, @PHI, V DAL, VS TEN, @NO, V PHI, v FAL, @DAL - Assume 2 wins with Tennessee and New Orleans and say a split with Philly and Dallas and they are already at 11 wins which would put them ahead of us. Tiebreaker is meaningless here

2.Philadelphia (6-2) - @DAL, v WAS, @Rams, @ Ravens, v Panthers, vs Steelers, @WAS, DAL, NYG - Assume 2 wins with Panthers and NYG and a split with Dallas and Washington and they are at 10 wins.  That leaves @Rams, @Ravens, vs Steelers to muster up 1 win in which i could easily see them winning one of the Rams or Steelers games.  11 wins and tiebreaker is meaningless.  One team wins division, one gets in as a wild card

3. Detroit (7-1) - @Houston, v JAX, @Colts, VS Bears, vs Packers, vs Bills, @Bears, @49ers,Vikings - i mean they are likely the division winner but will easily take the Jaguars, Colts, at least a game from the Bears to get to 10 wins.  then they need to win 1 more of their remaining 6 games lol.  The tie breaker means very little here. 

4. Vikings (6-2) - @Jaguars, @Titans, @ Bears, v Cardinals, v Falcons, V Bears, @ Seattle, @Green Bay, @Detroit - so let's assume a split with the Bears, wins versus Jaguars, Titans, and you are at 9 wins.  Then maybe assume a split of the Cardinals/Falcons games which leaves them with 10 wins with Seattle, Green Bay, and Detroit.  Can they take 1 of those games to get to 11?  I think so.

5. Atlanta (6-3) - @Saints, @Broncos, @V Chargers, @Vikings, @Raiders, NYG, @Commanders, v Panthers - There will be a lot of prayers and hoping for them to fall off here but all else remaining consistent hard to see them losing to Raiders, Giants, and Panthers which gets them to 9 wins.  They then just need 1 win to own the tiebreaker and win division with Saints, Broncos, Chargers, Vikings, and Commanders.  Very likely. 

6.  NFC West Winner - let's just assume one team comes out of this division, but note that 3 teams have our record or better and that number goes to 4 teams if we lose to Chiefs tonight.  As the 49ers are the most likely team to go on a run and win the division, that's our only hope here in that the rest of them fall off. 

7. Green Bay (6-3) - @ Bears, 49ers, Dolphins, @Detroit, @Seattle, V Saints, @Vikings, Bears.  I mean the Dolphins, one of Bears games, and Saints all look very winnable.  That leaves the 49ers, Detroit, Seattle, Bears, and Vikings for them to nab 2 wins.  Seems achievable.

the NFC is very strong this year, 10 wins may get you in the AFC, but NFC is likely going to take 11 unless one of the teams ahead of us falls off.  Unfortunately, we look like one of the teams falling off with 2 straight losses and staring at 4 straight heading into the bye week

maybe they surprise versus Chiefs tonight but thats what it will take to get them back in this, otherwise, at 4-5, then 4-6...forget about it. 

 

 

 

Good breakdown. Since this current 7 team format started in 2021, here are the records of the 18 wild-card teams with the percentage chance each of the records have had of getting in. 

12-5 (1) 100%

11-6 (4) 100%

10-7 (7) 100%

9-7-1 (2) 100%

9-8  (4) 27%

7 loss teams are 9 for 9 in making the playoffs in this format, but it could certainly change this year based on your analysis. I think we're primed for a run based on us beating Detroit there and beating the brakes off Washington and Philly. It's a sign of a good team. Teams that I think could fold are the Eagles and Packers. We're going to have tie breaker over GB based on conference record if they're 10-7. They already have 3 NFC losses and still play @DET, @MIN, @Seattle, home vs SF. If those are the 4 losses (or a CHI loss) then we'll have tiebreaker. 

A win vs SF could turn the entire season around. 

 

 

 
Posted : Nov. 4, 2024 1:15 pm
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Posted by: @jc5100

They're icing Tucker because they're dumb and have too much ego to play the undrafted guy over the 3rd round pick

Thomas Jones have as many carries as White? Close?

 
Posted : Nov. 5, 2024 1:03 am
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If you tack on the 15 for being illegally tackled from behind, Tucker had 4 touches for 32 yards. Big part of our easiest drive the night. 

 
Posted : Nov. 5, 2024 6:32 am
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If you tack on the 15 for being illegally tackled from behind, Tucker had 4 touches for 32 yards. Big part of our easiest drive the night. 

”icing”

 

 
Posted : Nov. 5, 2024 7:52 am
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1. Lions 7-1

2. Commanders 7-2

3. Falcons 6-3

4. Cardinals 5-4

t5. Eagles 6-2

t5. Vikings 6-2

7. Packers 6-3

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8. Bears 4-4

9. Rams 4-4

10. 49ers 4-4

11. Bucs 4-5

12. Seahawks 4-5

 

This one is huge. Think if we beat the 49ers we're going to coast in. 

 
Posted : Nov. 5, 2024 12:44 pm
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1. Lions 7-1

2. Commanders 7-2

3. Falcons 6-3

4. Cardinals 5-4

t5. Eagles 6-2

t5. Vikings 6-2

7. Packers 6-3

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8. Bears 4-4

9. Rams 4-4

10. 49ers 4-4

11. Bucs 4-5

12. Seahawks 4-5

 

This one is huge. Think if we beat the 49ers we're going to coast in. 

The 49's are favored by 5. They are coming off a bye week and may get a bunch of injured players back. The Bucs are coming off a loss on the road and have a short week. If the Bucs lose to the 49's, the Bucs are on the outside of getting into the playoffs. They can only afford to lose 1 more game if they lose to the 49' to go 10-7. Not sure 10-7 will get them a WC spot this year with so many teams having a better record than the Bucs.

 

 
Posted : Nov. 5, 2024 5:52 pm
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In case anyone cares, don't bet games with spreads that start with "5."  Just saying.

 
Posted : Nov. 7, 2024 1:05 am
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PFF

 

Bucs currently have a 33 percent shot of the playoffs. 

If the Bucs beat the 49ers Sunday, that playoff chance is 54 percent

If the Bucs lose the playoff chance drops to 22 percent.

 
Posted : Nov. 7, 2024 8:03 am
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Bucs currently have a 33 percent shot of the playoffs. 

If the Bucs beat the 49ers Sunday, that playoff chance is 54 percent

If the Bucs lose the playoff chance drops to 22 percent.

I've seen probabilities with the Bucs as low as 15% right now and I'm calling BS. It's based off the Bucs being a traditional 4-5 team and it's simply not the case. The 2024 Buccaneers have played the second hardest 9 game schedule in the last 20 years. Now the schedule completely flips and there is a clear path to 10 wins. 5-0 vs Carolina 2x, New Orleans, Giants and Raiders. 1-2 vs 49ers, Cowboys and Chargers. That puts the Bucs 10-7 with a 10-2 or 9-3 conference record. Everyone is worried about the records of these teams ahead of not realizing they have brutal schedules and play each other. 

 

 
Posted : Nov. 7, 2024 9:56 am
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Posted by: @jc5100

2024 Buccaneers have played the second hardest 9 game schedule in the last 20 years

 

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Weird how a certain contingent of fans are magically starting the "schedule blaming" campaign. 

whoa!  

 
Posted : Nov. 7, 2024 9:59 am
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It's a real stat, I don't know what you want me to tell you. The Bucs first 9 opponents are 45-20 vs the rest of the league, that's a 75% winning %. The Commanders for example have played vs a 38% schedule. 

 

 

 
Posted : Nov. 7, 2024 10:20 am
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It's a real stat, I don't know what you want me to tell you. The Bucs first 9 opponents are 45-20 vs the rest of the league, that's a 75% winning %. The Commanders for example have played vs a 38% schedule. 

 

 

 

Schedule BLAMER!!

 

 
Posted : Nov. 7, 2024 10:32 am
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Posted by: @jc5100

It's a real stat, I don't know what you want me to tell you. The Bucs first 9 opponents are 45-20 vs the rest of the league, that's a 75% winning %. The Commanders for example have played vs a 38% schedule. 

 

 

I hear you, and agree that winning the division gets you harder schedules, and this team and this coach have performed well against that schedule, consistently.

Now, to make a playoff run after the SF game (assuming a loss), we can’t lose another game. We would need to win 7 straight - a feat this franchise has never accomplished … we really need to steal a win against the 9er’s.

After the Kansas City game, I actually feel more confident that this team can beat San Francisco - it’s not a lock, but it’s not the automatic loss it looked like a few weeks ago.

They're not just a good team, they’re smart and well-coached. We’re going to have to be as well.

 
Posted : Nov. 7, 2024 1:40 pm
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