I hear you, and agree that winning the division gets you harder schedules, and this team and this coach have performed well against that schedule, consistently.It's a real stat, I don't know what you want me to tell you. The Bucs first 9 opponents are 45-20 vs the rest of the league, that's a 75% winning %. The Commanders for example have played vs a 38% schedule.
Now, to make a playoff run after the SF game (assuming a loss), we can’t lose another game. We would need to win 7 straight - a feat this franchise has never accomplished … we really need to steal a win against the 9er’s.
After the Kansas City game, I actually feel more confident that this team can beat San Francisco - it’s not a lock, but it’s not the automatic loss it looked like a few weeks ago.
They're not just a good team, they’re smart and well-coached. We’re going to have to be as well.
We disagree on 10-7 vs 11-6. At 10-7 Bucs will be in an A+ tiebreaker situation and since the new playoff format, 7 loss teams are 9 for 9 making the playoffs.
OK, so you’re saying we can drop two more games and still make the playoffs?I hear you, and agree that winning the division gets you harder schedules, and this team and this coach have performed well against that schedule, consistently.It's a real stat, I don't know what you want me to tell you. The Bucs first 9 opponents are 45-20 vs the rest of the league, that's a 75% winning %. The Commanders for example have played vs a 38% schedule.
Now, to make a playoff run after the SF game (assuming a loss), we can’t lose another game. We would need to win 7 straight - a feat this franchise has never accomplished … we really need to steal a win against the 9er’s.
After the Kansas City game, I actually feel more confident that this team can beat San Francisco - it’s not a lock, but it’s not the automatic loss it looked like a few weeks ago.
They're not just a good team, they’re smart and well-coached. We’re going to have to be as well.
We disagree on 10-7 vs 11-6. At 10-7 Bucs will be in an A+ tiebreaker situation and since the new playoff format, 7 loss teams are 9 for 9 making the playoffs.
Not so sure about that - but I hope you’re right.
OK, so you’re saying we can drop two more games and still make the playoffs?I hear you, and agree that winning the division gets you harder schedules, and this team and this coach have performed well against that schedule, consistently.It's a real stat, I don't know what you want me to tell you. The Bucs first 9 opponents are 45-20 vs the rest of the league, that's a 75% winning %. The Commanders for example have played vs a 38% schedule.
Now, to make a playoff run after the SF game (assuming a loss), we can’t lose another game. We would need to win 7 straight - a feat this franchise has never accomplished … we really need to steal a win against the 9er’s.
After the Kansas City game, I actually feel more confident that this team can beat San Francisco - it’s not a lock, but it’s not the automatic loss it looked like a few weeks ago.
They're not just a good team, they’re smart and well-coached. We’re going to have to be as well.
We disagree on 10-7 vs 11-6. At 10-7 Bucs will be in an A+ tiebreaker situation and since the new playoff format, 7 loss teams are 9 for 9 making the playoffs.
Not so sure about that - but I hope you’re right.
Yes. 10-7 will get us in the playoffs. The playoff probabilites are so low because they're not factoring in our .750 shedule thus far and .271 schedule after the bye.
yeah if we beat the 49ers, i feel alot better about our chances.
we need to go 10-7 to have a shot and like others have stated, i am not sure that guarantees us a spot being 2 games back from a spot already. NFC is really strong this year.
if we lose to the 49ers, we are 4-6. Having to go 6-1.
I think where JC is maybe being too positive is assuming we drop a game of the Chargers/Cowboys and coast through the rest.
The Panthers played us hard last year and we barely beat them both times. The Saints crushed us on our own turf when we could have won the division and were rolling last year. to assume we go 3-0 here with how the team currently is playing is a pipe dream.
I agree that all 7 games are winnable but just saying 4-3 is more likely than 6-1.
if we are being honest with our selves, the season ended Monday night against Baltimore. There was no coming back from that.
yeah if we beat the 49ers, i feel alot better about our chances.
we need to go 10-7 to have a shot and like others have stated, i am not sure that guarantees us a spot being 2 games back from a spot already. NFC is really strong this year.
if we lose to the 49ers, we are 4-6. Having to go 6-1.
I think where JC is maybe being too positive is assuming we drop a game of the Chargers/Cowboys and coast through the rest.
The Panthers played us hard last year and we barely beat them both times. The Saints crushed us on our own turf when we could have won the division and were rolling last year. to assume we go 3-0 here with how the team currently is playing is a pipe dream.
I agree that all 7 games are winnable but just saying 4-3 is more likely than 6-1.
if we are being honest with our selves, the season ended Monday night against Baltimore. There was no coming back from that.
For the sake of the playoffs I am assuming a sweep of in those 5 games vs bad teams. They're not just below average. They're BAD. If we lose to any one of them then it's over.
I agreed with most of your post, except the Baltimore part. It felt like that, but if we get Mike back after the bye, and JMac begins to “get” what it means to be a pro and be available when desperately needed, Coen can win. The defense stacks up well, and is getting healthier for the back side of the schedule.yeah if we beat the 49ers, i feel alot better about our chances.
we need to go 10-7 to have a shot and like others have stated, i am not sure that guarantees us a spot being 2 games back from a spot already. NFC is really strong this year.
if we lose to the 49ers, we are 4-6. Having to go 6-1.
I think where JC is maybe being too positive is assuming we drop a game of the Chargers/Cowboys and coast through the rest.
The Panthers played us hard last year and we barely beat them both times. The Saints crushed us on our own turf when we could have won the division and were rolling last year. to assume we go 3-0 here with how the team currently is playing is a pipe dream.
I agree that all 7 games are winnable but just saying 4-3 is more likely than 6-1.
if we are being honest with our selves, the season ended Monday night against Baltimore. There was no coming back from that.
I don’t believe it’s over.
BUCS Wins vs:
7-2 Commanders
7-1 Lions
7-2 Eagles
2-7 Saints
BUCS Losses vs:
5-4 Broncos
6-3 Falcons
7-3 Ravens
6-3 Falcons
8-0 Chiefs
It's undeniable that the Bucs schedule has been a tough road. They've had three quality wins, and some tough losses. The road gets easier after the 49ers game and the bye, but the Bucs will have to play their very best football in order to make the playoffs.
yeah if we beat the 49ers, i feel alot better about our chances.
we need to go 10-7 to have a shot and like others have stated, i am not sure that guarantees us a spot being 2 games back from a spot already. NFC is really strong this year.
if we lose to the 49ers, we are 4-6. Having to go 6-1.
I think where JC is maybe being too positive is assuming we drop a game of the Chargers/Cowboys and coast through the rest.
The Panthers played us hard last year and we barely beat them both times. The Saints crushed us on our own turf when we could have won the division and were rolling last year. to assume we go 3-0 here with how the team currently is playing is a pipe dream.
I agree that all 7 games are winnable but just saying 4-3 is more likely than 6-1.
if we are being honest with our selves, the season ended Monday night against Baltimore. There was no coming back from that.
For the sake of the playoffs I am assuming a sweep of in those 5 games vs bad teams. They're not just below average. They're BAD. If we lose to any one of them then it's over.
not so sure the Saints are "bad" with Derek Carr. Yeah they lost to the Panthers but this is a very similar Saints team that kicked our ass on our turf when it mattered most last year. Let's not act like this Bowles led Bucs isn't capable of laying an egg any given Sunday. I'd say we should win that game but it's like a 55-60% chance of winning and not 90% like you believe.
The Giants beat the Seahawks on the road and the Raiders beat the Ravens on the road. Yes, i have these marked as wins but any given sunday my friend. Carolina played us tough last year so not counting that as a sweep just yet either.
In 2024, the most wins in a row the Bucs have put together was 2. In 2023, that was 4. Heck even in 2021 with Brady it was 4. Of course in 2020, we won 8 in a row to end the year in Super Bowl triumph, but let's not get crazy with this 2024 squad. we are likely closer to 2023 squad, correct?
Best case scenario is that we somehow beat the 49ers this week, and drop one of the back to back road games against LA/DAL to end up 11-6. This would be remarkable and a playoff birth.
A good scenario, which i think you are referring too is a loss to 49ers, but then we go on a run and split the LA/DAL to end up 10-7. This would also be a good run but again likely a coin flip we make playoffs with Greenbay having a 2 game lead on us for wild card. I think we can agree the division is lost being back 3 games unless Cousins goes down with injury.
the most likely scenario is Bucs drop to SF, DAL, and LA; then lose a division game to Saints or Carolina - to end up 8-9 on the season. We will likely be underdogs in the first 3 and just a typical Bowles let down game in one of the division games. Take away one of the division losses and you are 9-8 which again not good enough for playoffs this year but in line with the Bowles .500
@badabingbucs - Great points.
i do think getting Mike back would offset some of that - and staying relatively healthy the rest of the season can’t be overstated.
We’re in a good spot after SF - and as you said - if we could steal one on the road against the 9ers it would give us a little more breathing room.
Going to be interesting to see what Coen cooks up, he’s still got his hands tied, but he’s got some things working for him - that o-line is really playing well right now!
I am assuming a sweep of in those 5 games vs bad teams.
Really tough thing to bank on in the NFL
It's undeniable that the Bucs schedule has been a tough road.
Say that ^^^ in the PRESEASON and get attacked by the self-styled football smart set lmao
I'm not telling we're winning 10 games this year, but I have a strong feeling 10-6 won't be enough for playoffs this year in NFC
10-7 probably won't be good enough for a WC this season, but if Atlanta losses a bunch of its remaining games, it could win the NFCS.I'm not telling we're winning 10 games this year, but I have a strong feeling 10-6 won't be enough for playoffs this year in NFC
It appears that the division is our best chance at the playoffs.
Over the next 3 games, the Bucs should be 3-0 - @NYG, @CAR, V LVR. If they lose any of those games, just forget about it. So that would have us at 7-6
The Falcons over the next 3 weeks - bye week, Chargers, and @Vikings. They could be 0-2 and at 6-7.
The problem becomes the Falcons schedule after that - @LVR, NYG, @WAS, v CAR. very likely a 3-1 finish or 9-8 record.
so the Bucs then have @LAC which is their toughest remaining game, @DAL, v CAR, V Saints. Would say the Bucs lose to Chargers because we very rather can put long winning streaks together. Feel like 3-4 games is max. Then we bounce back and beat Dal and Carolina to get us to 9-7. So may come down to that Saints game in the final week and that scares me.
Updated
1. Lions 9-1
2. Eagles 8-2
3. Cardinals 6-4
4. Falcons 6-5
5. Vikings 8-2
6. Packers 7-3
7. Commanders 7-4
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8. Rams 5-5
9. Seahawks 5-5
10. 49ers 5-5
11. Bucs 5-6
12. Bears 5-6
I think the NFC West will only send their division winner. Best chance for us is if the Falcons collapse or the Packers or Commanders win 3 or less games the rest of the way.
