"My argument is that from 2014-2019 the Bucs averaged 6 wins per season under 3 different head coaches, 2 of which had success on other teams. Now we're 7-9 and everyone is blaming the coach. His 2014-2019 body of work was horrendous. He even admits it. We won because of Brady. Not because of Licht. Not because of Arians. Because of Brady. When people push back on it I ask what our record would have been with Bridgewater and nobody wants to answer because they know we would have sucked.
Now we're back to bad drafts and non impact free agent signings and back to losing. Just like under Lovie. Just like under Koetter. Just like 2019 with Arians. It doesn't matter who the coach is if he's going to put this level of talent on the field. Alot of the players are bad. Really bad."
Think you just killed your own argument with this statement. If it was all Brady, and not Arians or Licht, then why was Brady's only losing season during Bowles his first year at the helm? I realize this is an indictment to Bowles as it should be, but that completely disproves " that it was Brady" not the combo of talent( that Licht assembled) coupled with, Arians coaching, and Brady and company's play that brought the Superbowl home to Tampa. If that was the case then there should have been at two additional trophies that should be in the case at OBP then...but it further goes to show that coaching matters.
There should be another Lombardi from 2021. Lost Godwin and Wirfs. Should have just paid AB his bonus and shut him down until January.
2022. Brady wasn't all-in. OL was shit.
."My argument is that from 2014-2019 the Bucs averaged 6 wins per season under 3 different head coaches, 2 of which had success on other teams. Now we're 7-9 and everyone is blaming the coach. His 2014-2019 body of work was horrendous. He even admits it. We won because of Brady. Not because of Licht. Not because of Arians. Because of Brady. When people push back on it I ask what our record would have been with Bridgewater and nobody wants to answer because they know we would have sucked.
Now we're back to bad drafts and non impact free agent signings and back to losing. Just like under Lovie. Just like under Koetter. Just like 2019 with Arians. It doesn't matter who the coach is if he's going to put this level of talent on the field. Alot of the players are bad. Really bad."
Think you just killed your own argument with this statement. If it was all Brady, and not Arians or Licht, then why was Brady's only losing season during Bowles his first year at the helm? I realize this is an indictment to Bowles as it should be, but that completely disproves " that it was Brady" not the combo of talent( that Licht assembled) coupled with, Arians coaching, and Brady and company's play that brought the Superbowl home to Tampa. If that was the case then there should have been at two additional trophies that should be in the case at OBP then...but it further goes to show that coaching matters.
There should be another Lombardi from 2021. Lost Godwin and Wirfs. Should have just paid AB his bonus and shut him down until January.
2022. Brady wasn't all-in. OL was shit.
Brady was definitely distracted that year. I know he was good friends with Robert Kraft, but I thought it was BS that Kraft scheduled his wedding during the season and that Brady decided attending was more important than practicing with his teammates. OL was down a little, but still very serviceable and still better than most OL as a whole that we have had prior. AB was a Meshawn situation all over (different circumstances, same result and similar kind of headcase so not sure he would have been okay sitting out that long) I think Gronk being gone was the biggest detriment to the team, but again Brady being Brady doesn't trump talent around him or coaching. It all matters and it all counts toward the final outcome.
."My argument is that from 2014-2019 the Bucs averaged 6 wins per season under 3 different head coaches, 2 of which had success on other teams. Now we're 7-9 and everyone is blaming the coach. His 2014-2019 body of work was horrendous. He even admits it. We won because of Brady. Not because of Licht. Not because of Arians. Because of Brady. When people push back on it I ask what our record would have been with Bridgewater and nobody wants to answer because they know we would have sucked.
Now we're back to bad drafts and non impact free agent signings and back to losing. Just like under Lovie. Just like under Koetter. Just like 2019 with Arians. It doesn't matter who the coach is if he's going to put this level of talent on the field. Alot of the players are bad. Really bad."
Think you just killed your own argument with this statement. If it was all Brady, and not Arians or Licht, then why was Brady's only losing season during Bowles his first year at the helm? I realize this is an indictment to Bowles as it should be, but that completely disproves " that it was Brady" not the combo of talent( that Licht assembled) coupled with, Arians coaching, and Brady and company's play that brought the Superbowl home to Tampa. If that was the case then there should have been at two additional trophies that should be in the case at OBP then...but it further goes to show that coaching matters.
There should be another Lombardi from 2021. Lost Godwin and Wirfs. Should have just paid AB his bonus and shut him down until January.
2022. Brady wasn't all-in. OL was shit.
Brady was definitely distracted that year. I know he was good friends with Robert Kraft, but I thought it was BS that Kraft scheduled his wedding during the season and that Brady decided attending was more important than practicing with his teammates. OL was down a little, but still very serviceable and still better than most OL as a whole that we have had prior. AB was a Meshawn situation all over (different circumstances, same result and similar kind of headcase so not sure he would have been okay sitting out that long) I think Gronk being gone was the biggest detriment to the team, but again Brady being Brady doesn't trump talent around him or coaching. It all matters and it all counts toward the final outcome.
Brady was great but any team is behind the 8 ball when all plans are changed on March 30th lol. In 2020 we got the very best of Brady. In 2022 we got the heavily distracted not so Brady version of Brady and that was not enough to overcome the other deficiencies in the team.
."My argument is that from 2014-2019 the Bucs averaged 6 wins per season under 3 different head coaches, 2 of which had success on other teams. Now we're 7-9 and everyone is blaming the coach. His 2014-2019 body of work was horrendous. He even admits it. We won because of Brady. Not because of Licht. Not because of Arians. Because of Brady. When people push back on it I ask what our record would have been with Bridgewater and nobody wants to answer because they know we would have sucked.
Now we're back to bad drafts and non impact free agent signings and back to losing. Just like under Lovie. Just like under Koetter. Just like 2019 with Arians. It doesn't matter who the coach is if he's going to put this level of talent on the field. Alot of the players are bad. Really bad."
Think you just killed your own argument with this statement. If it was all Brady, and not Arians or Licht, then why was Brady's only losing season during Bowles his first year at the helm? I realize this is an indictment to Bowles as it should be, but that completely disproves " that it was Brady" not the combo of talent( that Licht assembled) coupled with, Arians coaching, and Brady and company's play that brought the Superbowl home to Tampa. If that was the case then there should have been at two additional trophies that should be in the case at OBP then...but it further goes to show that coaching matters.
There should be another Lombardi from 2021. Lost Godwin and Wirfs. Should have just paid AB his bonus and shut him down until January.
2022. Brady wasn't all-in. OL was shit.
Brady was definitely distracted that year. I know he was good friends with Robert Kraft, but I thought it was BS that Kraft scheduled his wedding during the season and that Brady decided attending was more important than practicing with his teammates. OL was down a little, but still very serviceable and still better than most OL as a whole that we have had prior. AB was a Meshawn situation all over (different circumstances, same result and similar kind of headcase so not sure he would have been okay sitting out that long) I think Gronk being gone was the biggest detriment to the team, but again Brady being Brady doesn't trump talent around him or coaching. It all matters and it all counts toward the final outcome.
Brady was great but any team is behind the 8 ball when all plans are changed on March 30th lol. In 2020 we got the very best of Brady. In 2022 we got the heavily distracted not so Brady version of Brady and that was not enough to overcome the other deficiencies in the team.
we also got the true playcalling of Leftwich once Arians was gone, and that wasn’t helping matters either
