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What? I'm not following.  So the fact that the starters are sitting in the preseason has something to do with Bowles's perception of the talent level on his team? 

You’re following 

Based on this football savant's logic, here is the list of NFL Head Coaches that don't think their talent level are all that:

Sean McDermott

John Harbaugh

Pete Carroll

Mike McCarthy

Sean McVay

Kyle Shanahan

Nick Siriani

Josh McDaniels

Kevin O'Connell

Zac Taylor

Dan Campbell

Brian Daboll

Mike McDaniels

Robert Saleh

Brandon Staley

Arthur Smith

 

Suck for these teams, as a lot of them have Superbowl aspirations. But the same savant saying the OC's play selection in preseason means something is the same dingleberry putting this nonsense forward. He knows his stuff.

 

 

TDE is real!

 

lol

 

 
Posted : Aug. 16, 2023 1:08 pm
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Sean McVey caused a stir when sat all starters with the Rams. His stated reason was avoiding injuries and minimizing their impact anyway by developing depth players

the Bucs have a couple more McVey connections this season but if memory serves Bowles sat many starters last preseason? Anyway, he said the sane reason as McVey in a recent interview. 

(up in the thread someone suggests that Bowles sits starters because he’s, in essence, a conservative coward lol. McVey?)

 
Posted : Aug. 16, 2023 2:01 pm
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I think that if the Bucs staff is satisfied with the work the starters do with the scrimmages that they will take a page out of the Patriots approach and rest the starters and give the reps to the 2nd and 3rd stringers.

 

This was my take after the Tristen Wirfs Diary. He explained why he may not play and this was it..

 

 
Posted : Aug. 16, 2023 2:21 pm
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I’d expect the same thing as last week. Only difference is Trask at starter. 

May see Leverett at center to start as well. 

 
Posted : Aug. 16, 2023 7:34 pm
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As with any strenuous activity, you have to acclimate or you have a greater risk of injury. These coaches seem brilliant avoiding injuries during the preseason only to see core contributors get hurt easily in the season. Not getting your body used to the hitting is similar to not stretching out your muscles fully. Avoiding ankle injuries, for example, requires stretching them to their max in all directions so that when the bodies pile up on your ankle at the bottom of the pile, your ankle can stretch to accommodate it. Tight ankle muscles will can become sprained or torn in those conditions. We'll see if we get lucky during the season or not. McVay wasn't last year. It's hard to gauge this crap because it's not a 1 for 1 correlation. Sometimes you can just get wrong and it won't matter how much you trained to take a similar hit.

 

 
Posted : Aug. 16, 2023 8:21 pm
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As with any strenuous activity, you have to acclimate or you have a greater risk of injury. These coaches seem brilliant avoiding injuries during the preseason only to see core contributors get hurt easily in the season. Not getting your body used to the hitting is similar to not stretching out your muscles fully. Avoiding ankle injuries, for example, requires stretching them to their max in all directions so that when the bodies pile up on your ankle at the bottom of the pile, your ankle can stretch to accommodate it. Tight ankle muscles will can become sprained or torn in those conditions. We'll see if we get lucky during the season or not. McVay wasn't last year. It's hard to gauge this crap because it's not a 1 for 1 correlation. Sometimes you can just get wrong and it won't matter how much you trained to take a similar hit.

 

 

I think this is actually is sort of in line with the point that Bowles is making. Sometimes there are going to be injuries no matter what. Gage was apparently no contact, just back pedaling? But what the science apparently shows, according to Bowles, between increased injury risk and sustained practice and that is a variable the coaches can control 

 

 
Posted : Aug. 16, 2023 8:50 pm
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Gage was apparently no contact, just back pedaling?

Back pedaling?

 
Posted : Aug. 16, 2023 8:58 pm
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Gage was apparently no contact, just back pedaling?

Back pedaling?

 

I read that somewhere.  odd, right?

 

 
Posted : Aug. 16, 2023 9:01 pm
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ESPN - "Gage's injury was noncontact, sustained while he was backpedaling during 7-on-7 drills. "

 
Posted : Aug. 16, 2023 9:03 pm
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Gage was apparently no contact, just back pedaling?

Back pedaling?

 

I read that somewhere.  odd, right?

 

Yeah

 

 
Posted : Aug. 16, 2023 9:05 pm
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Injuries happen and it sucks for the Bucs and for Gage.  Too lazy to look but isnt our current WR depth now basically UFA rookies and a couple 2nd year guys?

 

agree with the post that say hope we give the kid a chance

 
Posted : Aug. 16, 2023 9:14 pm
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Posted by: @bucsbits

agree with the post that say hope we give the kid a chance

You have to give him the reps. 

We aren’t contenders.

You need to see what you have in Palmer, Thompkins, Geiger, etc. 

No need to bring in retreads, even if you are on the hot seat. 

 
Posted : Aug. 16, 2023 9:23 pm
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agree with the post that say hope we give the kid a chance

You have to give him the reps. 

We aren’t contenders.

You need to see what you have in Palmer, Thompkins, Geiger, etc. 

No need to bring in retreads, even if you are on the hot seat. 

 

that last sentence. lol

 

If he thinks he is on the hot seat he's bringing in any veteran he can and not as depth

 

sort of the baked-in disconnect between team and HC

 

 
Posted : Aug. 16, 2023 9:28 pm
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If he thinks he is on the hot seat he's bringing in any veteran he can and not as depth

And, when it ultimately fails (like it predictably did with Julio), he’ll be shown the door. 

 

 
Posted : Aug. 16, 2023 9:44 pm
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If he thinks he is on the hot seat he's bringing in any veteran he can and not as depth

And, when it ultimately fails (like it predictably did with Julio), he’ll be shown the door. 

 

 

definitely 

 

 
Posted : Aug. 16, 2023 9:47 pm
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