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All-Twenty Tuesday: Ohio State CB Denzel Ward

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are going to have Vernon Hargreaves on their team for the start of their 2018 preparation, which includes training camp and the preseason. That, we know is true.

However, as we discussed on the previous page, there was a need for the Bucs to draft a cornerback before Hargreaves’ leaked video came out and that need still exists here after.

The Bucs went through the free agency period spending most of their cap space on the defensive trenches with Beau Allen, Vinny Curry, Mitch Unrein and then trading for Jason Pierre-Paul. As for the secondary, their big move was re-signing cornerback Brent Grimes to a one-year, $10 million dollar deal. If we project that Hargreaves is more suited to play as an inside cornerback, which may be the case, the Bucs are going to have to look at upgrading their second outside cornerback spot in the draft. That could happen as high as No. 7 overall, and in the most recent mock drafts, if the mock does have the Bucs taking a cornerback, it’s almost always the shutdown corner from The Ohio State University, Denzel Ward.

Here’s what NFL.com’s Lance Zierlein had to say about Ward in his scouting report.

“OSU cornerbacks coach Kerry Coombs told reporters last spring that Ward was a “gifted player” and truly a “third starter” at cornerback, joining 2017 first-round picks Marshon Lattimore and Gareon Conley. Ward proved his coach correct, earning first-team All-American and all-conference accolades in 2017 with 37 tackles, two for loss, two interceptions, and 15 pass breakups (ranked in the top 10 in the nation). He earned honorable mention All-Big Ten notice from league media as a non-starter in 2016, playing 30 snaps a game on defense. Ward tied Lattimore for the team lead with nine pass breakups on the year (23 tackles), never giving up on a play and being quite physical despite his average size for the position. Ward got onto the field as a true freshman, making seven tackles, primarily on special teams. Ward was a first-team All-Ohio pick and Division II Co-Defensive Player of the Year as a high school senior (nine interceptions, 18 pass breakups). He also qualified for the state track meet as a long jumper and part of the 4×400 relay.”

Ward had pretty good stats during his time at Ohio State. Stats can be tricky for defensive backs, though. Where you certainly want takeaways and pass breakups, part of the job is to play such good coverage that you don’t throw the ball your way. So, what I actually think was most impressive about Ward was that a team as talented as Ohio State felt the need to get him on the field as a true freshman and sophomore. That, to me, is a signal of a good player — or at least one that has a lot of potential at a young age.

So, how does Ward look from a measurable and athletic standpoint?

Height and weight? Not great. Ward measured in at the Combine at just under 5-foot-11 and only 183 pounds, both of those numbers were in the 35 and 14 percentile* for cornerbacks in the NFL, respectively.

*Anytime you read a percentile number for players using Combine data, what that means is that the database takes the results of the measurement or athletic test you’re observing from every cornerback in the NFL and places the observed data where it fits. The higher the percentile the better, as there are less players in the league that exceed whatever number that is. 

However, when it came to the athletic testing, Ward was stellar. His 40-yard dash time of 4.32 is in the 97th percentile, his vertical jump of 39 inches is in the 85th percentile, and his 11-foot, 3-inch broad jump puts him in the 98th percentile. That’s one heck of an athletic profile for a position that commands you be an athlete above the norm.

Now, let’s take all that – the praise, the accolades, the measurables and the testing – and see where we it might show up on film and determine whether or not this is a player the Bucs should be interested in at No. 7 overall.

HOLD ON NOW. I need another angle of that.

ARE Y’ALL SEEING THIS? I need one more replay.

OK, I lied. Give it to me one more time, but this time in slo-mo.

I had to start off showing you all that hit – at its many beautiful angles – because though he is small, a play like that encapsulates the mentality that Ward plays with.

Mentality is very important for cornerbacks. I’ve often said that cornerbacks, especially at the highest level, truly have to believe they’re the best player on the field or they’ve already lost the battle on the day. Ward’s assignments are tough. He’s asked to play man coverage in an aggressive style of defensive that often has their players blitzing the pocket and therefore leaving Ward without much help on the outside.

For a man of his size, Ward holds his own very well.

There’s an art to playing man coverage.

Think about it. If you’re a cornerback, you’re going up against a player who is most likely bigger than you, plus they know where the ball is going and when it’s arriving. Now it’s your job to figure that out, stay with them and not yield a catch. Knowing that, there is a physical element to playing cornerback, especially in the NFL, that has to exist with all types of corners, though some more than others.

With Ward being a cornerback that plays so close to the line of scrimmage, he knows he’s going to have to be physical, and like he showed in the play above, it’s all about being physical but not too much. You have to be able to disrupt a route and timing without drawing a flag. Little nuances like shoulder bumps and hand checks become an art form, and Ward is certainly an artist, in that regard.

As you can see in the clip above, Ward is asked every week to be physical yet not draw penalties, which is a tough gig, even beyond the talented receiver he’s going up against. The key is that he’s smart enough to get his head turned around when the contact happens.

The Indiana game gives us a pretty good look at who Ward really is as a prospect. In it, he was asked to guard Simmie Cobbs Jr. and Donavan Hale, both of whom are 6-foot-4 and over 220 pounds. With Ward being just 5-foot-10 and more importantly just 185 pounds, being physical with those guys was tough, but to start the game he still managed to give those big boys fits.

When you sign up to play man coverage, you know you’re going to be blind to the ball for most of the game. What I mean by that is that in man coverage, you’re often playing with you back to the ball, unannounced to when the quarterback is loading up and releasing the throw. Being instinctive to when the ball is being thrown your way when you have your back to the ball is often something you can’t teach, and it’s probably my favorite attribute of Ward’s.

There’s a lot that goes into playing with your back to the ball. You have to first be athletic enough to keep up with the receiver. You then have to be able to read a wide receiver’s eyes, and then you have to again be subtly physical as the ball comes in and then very physical when the ball reaches the catch point. Ward does all these things so well, and that’s such an important part of playing close, man coverage.

Though he is a physical cornerback who plays mostly in man coverage, Ward doesn’t do a lot of press coverage work. Due to his size, he knows that engaging with his hands at the line of scrimmage would actually put the offense at an advantage because of the physics that are involved with his lower weight – BREAKING NEWS: big guys beat up on small guys.

So instead, Ward relies on his elite athleticism we saw at the NFL Scouting Combine while still in close coverage. Ward not only has quick feet, but is natural when backpedalling and most importantly knows how to stay balanced. As a close-coverage cornerback who doesn’t get physical at the snap, you’re often backpedalling and not knowing where you’re about to break on a route.

That’s where balance is key.

The clip above is a pretty good example of Ward’s balance. Look at him in the slot.

He’s not bracing himself for initial contact, so he’s naturally backing up. As the receiver tries to eat the space between he and Ward, Ward stays in control enough to break when the wide receiver broke and therefore stayed close enough with his man to not yield an attempt at him. This is a compliment for a cornerback.

Ward leans on his athleticism in man coverage more than his physicality. He plays to his strengths well, but his weaknesses still exist, and unfortunately for him, he may already be near his ceiling because of them.

I told you the Indiana game gave us a good look at the good and bad of Ward, and the clip above brings us into the bad.

As much as I or anyone else can praise Ward for the good he does (which is a lot) there is always the “but” that comes at the end.

“Denzel Ward is such a strong-willed, technical, athletic corner, but…”

But, he’s 5-foot-10, and he’ll always be 5-foot-10. He has 31-inch arms, and he’ll always have 31-inch arms. Because of this, he’ll always be susceptible to bigger targets, and in the NFL, they’re all big. He could get big-boyed the way 5-foot-10 cornerback Vernon Hargreaves has during the first two years of his Bucs career.

I’ve seen this kind of thing too many times in the NFL; there are really good cornerbacks who will just always have to give up catches like this. Now, I’m not saying that Ward isn’t worth a first-round pick. I think he has the technique and athleticism to warrant that, but is he a Top 10 pick? I’m not all in on that because of the risk that could come with him from week-to-week.

I saw a few times in Ward’s tape, but more noticeably in the Indiana game, that once Ward started giving up a few big catches over the top that he began to get more physical, more grabby and more handsy during the route, likely due to frustration or having to adjust to the height he doesn’t have, which is understandable. This yielded some flags and showed the frustration in Ward’s game when the rest of it is just so dang good.

It’s players like Ward that make you appreciate how rare players like Richard Sherman, Patrick Peterson and Marshon Lattimore are. These are guys who not only do what Ward can do from a technical and athleticism standpoint, but also do even more with their length, too. Those are the guys who you can look at and know you’re getting a shutdown, No. 1 cornerback any week in the NFL, or at least have a chance to with them on your team. With Ward, I think you’re getting a real good corner, but at the same time you’ll still be searching for one that is bigger who can play opposite him.

I’m also not sure how well Ward fits in Tampa Bay. Now, could that be part of the problem in Tampa Bay? Yes, it could be. The Bucs under defensive coordinator Mike Smith have not really played as aggressive as Ward’s style calls for, and if you’re not drafting him to play man coverage, that’s even more of a waste to what he does best. And do the Bucs want to have a starting secondary that features three 5-foot-10 cornerbacks in nickel defense? Tht’s a really small secondary in today’s NFL.

So, is Ward worth the No. 7 overall pick? I think Ward will likely be the best overall option at cornerback in this class, but at No. 7, for the Buccaneers, I think it’s too rich, especially knowing that there’s a chance North Carolina State defensive end Bradley Chubb, Notre Dame guard Quenton Nelson or Florida State strong safety Derwin James could be there, as well as a possible quarterback left on the board to sweeten the pot for a trade down. And why would the Bucs want to pass on better players like Chubb or Nelson – and perhaps James – to select Ward?

Ward’s skill set could make him a really good draft selection for a certain team, but unless it’s in a trade down, I would wonder if the Bucs would be stretching Ward’s value over another player on the board just to fill a need.

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About the Author: Trevor Sikkema

Trevor Sikkema is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers beat reporter and NFL Draft analyst for PewterReport.com. Sikkema, an alumnus of the University of Florida, has covered both college and professional football for much of his career. As a native of the Sunshine State, when he's not buried in social media, Sikkema can be found out and active, attempting to be the best athlete he never was. Sikkema can be reached at: trevor@pewterreport.com
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FLBoy84
3 years ago

Contrary to the old adage, when things ARE broke, you need to fix it. Think you’ve written on this before Trevor, but outside of Grimes it seems most of our DB’s would benefit from a more aggressive coverage scheme to take advantage of their skill sets. If things remain the same Trevor, which CB’s do you see as a fit for our more zone-based scheme? Personally could care less what Hargreaves does in his spare time, more disappointed he was dumb enough to be filming it. Not ready to write him off as just a slot-CB, believe he can still… Read more »

edwamil83
Reply to  Trevor Sikkema
3 years ago

Isn’t Josh Jackson the best corner for our scheme?

toofamiliar17
Reply to  FLBoy84
3 years ago

Been saying this for a long time. Hargreaves could excel outside in most man coverage schemes, as well as any zone scheme that puts him near the LOS, i.e. a cover 2 base defense. Due to his lack of elite speed and his height, he’s roughly the exact opposite of the type of corner who can shine in a quarters or cover 3 concept with little to no help over the top.

Wausa
3 years ago

Trevor, Nice article. I agree that Ward looks like an outstanding prospect even with his size limitations, but there should be better options for the Bucs at pick 7. For me a top 10 pick in the draft is dominant at the highest level of college football, has great size and speed and is a potential team captain: Bradley Chubb, Quenton Nelson, Derwin James and Saquan Barkley all fit my above description of a top 10 pick. If the Bucs stay where they are the pick should be one of those four young men. If the Bucs trade back with… Read more »

toofamiliar17
Reply to  Wausa
3 years ago

I actually don’t know that I’d put Chubb in that group. If you compare him to DEs taken in past drafts, he’d be the second or 3rd best DE in most of them. Last year, he’d have come in behind both Myles Garrett and Solomon Thomas. The year before, at least Joey Bosa would have been ahead of him. In 2015, he gets beat out by Leonard Williams. 2014, it was Jadeveon Clowney AND Khalil Mack. 2013 featured Ezekiel Ansah, who he MAY have beaten out as a prospect, and Dion Jordan, who I always felt the Dolphins horribly overvalued.… Read more »

Hank Scorpio
3 years ago

Let me preface this by saying that I hate our secondary scheme and think that no matter who we have out there covering WRs, as long as we run the same scheme we’ve run the last 2 years, it will have minimal impact. With that said, I would love to see us grab a CB somewhere in the first 2 rds. Especially someone like Isaiah Oliver who has elite length so that whenever we switch to a scheme that allows for more press on the outside, we’ll already have a CB1 equipped to run it. In that same light, I’m… Read more »

FLBoy84
Reply to  Hank Scorpio
3 years ago

Completely agree Hank, but do you think Smith is flexible enough to make that change though?

toofamiliar17
Reply to  Hank Scorpio
3 years ago

And what’s funny is that Grimes would also excel in a scheme like that.

So it’s not like we’re screwed either way. There are ways this defensive backfield could be deployed that would result in strong play from BOTH of our top 2 corners. But as of yet, we’ve apparently been unwilling to utilize such an approach.

plopes808
Reply to  Hank Scorpio
3 years ago

Buckner’s D-Line will put enough pressure on QBs to improve our secondary regardless of scheme. But imagine if our secondary switched to more tight man coverage…pair that with the increased QB pressure and we could be looking at a huge leap on defense. Smith lead a pretty good defense 2 years ago, not sure what the deal was last year. If he’s flexible enough to make some tweaks we should be looking at a good defense this year. Our O-line should be improved as well and picking up a good RB1 in the draft should help alleviate the pressure on… Read more »

plopes808
3 years ago

In regard to Ward, I think he’s a very good player but his size limitations are too dangerous for us to take him, especially in the top 10. I feel he is comparable to Grimes and Hargreaves in that he has very good reaction, balance, and ball skills. But in this league, and especially in the NFC South, when all else is equal, SIZE WINS. I just don’t see how we can come out every week with 3 5′ 10″ corners. If we had a good sized corner with Grimes’ skill, I’d feel ok taking Ward as a #2, but… Read more »

kram0789
3 years ago

I think Ward is a legitimate 7th pick. He has the game and he has a special physical attribute, SPEED. Speed of this quality is lacking in the Bucs defense. He would be a special ingredient. I would not expect him to play against the extra big recievers, unless they were also extra fast. He would be used primarily against the fastest receiver on the field and could shut him down. Of course corner back is a huge need for the last place pass defense. Hargreaves may never be a starter on the outside and Grimes is at the age… Read more »

Cody
3 years ago

I think Ward has little man syndrome and that’s a good thing.

chefboho
3 years ago

I agree with the early posters. He’s very talented and is a great press corner which we seem unable to play in Smith’s lack luster defense. Ward is an extreme talent but the problem is our defensive coordinator doesn’t seem to take advantage of our players strengths and instead tries to make them something their not. Until he adjusts to the players, wards skills will be wasted just like heargreves is

surferdudes
3 years ago

I think your assessment of Ward is spot on Trever, to many big targets in our division, he’ll get worked. I thought the same of V3, still do, hope he works out as our nick back for years to come. Get a corner or two, third round down, this draft if supposed to be deep that way. Find a player with the right measurables to develop. The Bucs are going to have to bring a vet F.A. in to start the season, don’t see anyway around it. I think Ward is a reach at seven, and if drafted will struggle… Read more »

Buc 1976
3 years ago

Ward looks like a good player but #7 is a reach IMO.
BUCS REALLY need to trade down like inside top 15. We really have needs at RB,DL, and DB. With a trade we hopefully can fill them all.

toofamiliar17
Reply to  Buc 1976
3 years ago

That would be ideal. With the way this draft is set up, I wouldn’t want to go further than 12, I don’t think. That’s not to say that going lower isn’t a possibility to which I’d be open if the offer was right, but it wouldn’t be ideal. If we could somehow move back 5 or fewer spots and acquire at least one extra day one or day two pick, I’d be ecstatic. With three or four picks in the first two days of this draft, I think the board is, coincidentally, likely to line up very well with our… Read more »

Dman
3 years ago

I think corner is one of the toughest positions to evaluate at the college level since NFL size and speed at WR is so much different. Not to say Ward won’t be a great player in the league, just that the risk is much higher, especially at 5’10” AND with short arms. We need multiple corners so my preference is to get some of these guys that are taller, longer in later rounds. Even if we trade down, that to me is an opportunity to get DT Vita Vea, DE Davenport or OT McGlinchey.

toofamiliar17
Reply to  Dman
3 years ago

Those are three of my least favorite players for where they’re likely to be picked, lol. Funny coincidence.

Phattitudes
3 years ago

Short corners just don’t match up well with tall receivers. Their athletic prowess makes them look appealing, but physics is physics. There is just too much risk to take one early on. Trouble is the majority of college corners are short (5’10” or less). It is very hard to find a taller one who can match up athletically, and any you do find tend to be over valued because of their height. This year’s draft offers up Josh Jackson (6’1″), Isaiah Oliver (6’1″) and Holton Hill (6’3″) as the “tall” corner options in round 1 and early on in round… Read more »

Scott Dixon
Reply to  Phattitudes
3 years ago

I find it how homerism plays a part in a lot of peoples wish list and Yes, I am also victim to this being an Alabama homer since I could walk and that’s been over 50 years now. I keep reading these wishes for Derwin James and Denzel Ward. They’re both great CB’s, but it bothers me with their lack of splash plays and production. In 3 years at FSU as a starter James had 2 Int’s total. In 3 years as a staring DB for Ohio State Ward had 1 Int in 3 years. Minkah Fitzpatrick at Bama for… Read more »

cgmaster27
Reply to  Scott Dixon
3 years ago

You make good points scott, but I don’t think splash plays in college are indicative of much in the sense of corners. Let’s face it, Mikah had a better front seven in front of him than any other college DB in football. Rushed passes leads to picks. And not only that but picks sometimes are a lot of just being in the right place at the right time. Heck even Jalen Ramsey came out with 1 pick in college and is a top 5 DB in the league now. My problem with Mikah is he won’t be a corner on… Read more »

Devasher
Reply to  cgmaster27
3 years ago

Derwin James wasn’t a corner, so his lack of turnovers was certainly more of a problem. Jalen Ramey on the other hand was the first true freshman to start at corner at FSU since Deon Sanders.

Jalen Ramsey had 3 INT’s in his career at FSU not 1 cgmaster. He also was a consensus all-american his 3rd and final year, no such luck for Derwin. You follow FSU much? :P

cgmaster27
Reply to  Devasher
3 years ago

SO how when James plays safety, which sees less passes than a cornerback’s TO’s more of a problem? And James was used closer to the line of scrimmage than Jalen. DO you even watch FSU? And regardless of the number slip on my part, the knock everyone had with Ramsey was his lack of picks. That’s a fact. And you don’t think the fact that FSU kinda sucked this year had anything to do with all american voting? What exactly does that have to do with me watching FSU? We get it, you don’t like James, that’s fine with me.… Read more »

Charlie
3 years ago

Spot on about both VH3 and Ward, hopefully Mike Smith adjusts his scheme to be more aggressive this year. Try him outside for a couple games, see how he does. If it’s still a dumpster fire then put him back inside. As far as him smoking, assuming it is just marijuana, no big deal. It is proven to help with pain management.

Ward would without a doubt get bullied week in and week out in the NFL, OUR division especially. Can’t pick em, would much rather have Darwin James if we go with a DB Rd1.

makski
Reply to  Trevor Sikkema
3 years ago

Hey Trevor, I too agree with some of the posters at the top of the board. If we insist on running so much off coverage and zone, why on earth are we even talking about who the best cover corner in the draft is??? I think Hargraves as a second starter and Smith as a third CB are just fine as long as we change the Defense! Hargraves always looks better in spring training because, in practice, it is all one on ones! That’s what he’s good at. Then the games start and we play a super relaxed zone and… Read more »

makski
Reply to  Trevor Sikkema
3 years ago

Thanks Trevor! I appreciate the response. I would like almost any position other than CB early, especially if we play lots of off coverage again. I just hope we are a little more aggressive this year. Maybe Buckner will rub off a little on Smith! HaHa, we can only hope.

BadgerW4
3 years ago

I like Ward, actually, but not at 7. This draft is incredibly deep at CB. There are even guys I think have a legitimate shot to be significant contributors all the way into the 4th and 5th rounds there (I really like Greg Stroman from VaTech… If he weren’t rail thin, I think he’d be a first rounder). I love Ward’s speed, but if you look at the PFF numbers, Ward hasn’t done as well as you’d think. I’d actually prefer Josh Jackson and maybe even Jaire Alexander at this point to Ward. I also thought Brett Kollman’s piece on… Read more »

cgmaster27
3 years ago

When it comes to the Hargreaves incident, I could care less about the pot. It should be legal everywhere at this point, but as others have stated, it’s against league rules. And for that it’s pretty risky doing it. But As Trevor stated and I stated before, that could be an old video for all we know. I think he was clearly playing much better in the slot and but could be his position of strength. I mean Nickle corners are on the field a lot now so it would help. As for Ward at 7, that’s a big hell… Read more »

Honey Bear
3 years ago

Trevor, great stuff! Questions:

1) How is Denzel Ward different from Vh3 coming out of college?

2) On a previous Cover 3, you provided ample evidence that much of VH3’s struggles we’re scheme related and not utilizing his talent. Why should we expect different results with Ward?

Love you bud!

makski
Reply to  Honey Bear
3 years ago

Honey Bear, I totally agree with you on the scheme fit problem. I even have a post asking Trevor the same question. (Except mine was MUCH longer). I think our scheme is hurting our corners not named Grimes. We need to play much more aggressive on the outside, teams are just tearing us apart. I know they think it will be much better with the better pressure we are expected to have this year but I think the QB’s will just adjust and hit the 7-15 yard passes instead of the 10-25 yard passes.

martinii
3 years ago

It seems we’ve been down the path before. That old argument about the size of the wide receivers vrs. the height of the Corners and Safeties. You have your Mark Dupers, Mark Claytons, Steve Smith, Lance Alworth, Paul Warfield, Lynn Swann, et.al on one hand and the Randy Moss, Dez Bryant, Julio Jones, Megatron, Jerry Rice, et.al on the other. On the other side of the ball Ronde Barber, Richard Sherman, Deon Sanders, John Lynch, Darrelle Revis, Ronnie Lott, Charles Woodson, Jack Tatum, et.al defended them. I do not subscribe to the theory that small DB’s are more vulnerable to… Read more »

Bucsfan1983
3 years ago

Ward is a 1st round talent, no doubt. But not at #7, at 5’10” 185

Schwifty9
Reply to  Trevor Sikkema
3 years ago

Correct me if I’m wrong, but you’re the same genius talent scout that was basically saying Beckwith was garbage and was going to get exposed in the NFL.

Dman
3 years ago

Ward hit on the Maryland WR reminds me of the Jadeveon Clowney hit on the Michigan running back in the Outback Bowl. Forever highlight reel shot. Don’t ever remember Hargraves making that kind of stop.

GoldsonAges
3 years ago

Great article Trevor. I love the way you balanced out his positives with his negatives. If he was 3 inches taller and 20 pounds heavier he would be a top 5 prospect, but I agree with your analysis that due to his size he is too big a risk at No.7

Horse
3 years ago

Trevor, bottom line for me? Nothing will improve on Defence until Smith changes his ways as to CB’s playing closer to LOS.

geno711
3 years ago

1st – I would say that VH3 at the 11th overall pick in 2016 looks weak for us Bucs fans. Yet, you look back at that draft and picks after the Bucs in the 1st round and you realize that it was just a weak draft class. There were clearly hits in the later rounds like always but that first round class from 9 on was way under par. 2nd – I have no clue who will be the best corner in the draft but I would rather have a corner than a safety if all things are equal. 3rd… Read more »

Bradenton BucFan
3 years ago

Draft chubb if he falls to us,otherwise draft vita vea. get pressure on the qb. then we can press our corners, will it matter what scheme we run in the back end. if we get pressure in 3 to 4 sec. consistently

Schwifty9
3 years ago

Not really understanding the “short arms” take. His Arms are the exact same length as Marshon Lattimore and 1/8th inch shorter than Adore Jackson.

Freeman Strickland
3 years ago

The only reason that I see to take Ward in the first is as a future replacement for Grimes. All of the Buc CBs are 5-10 or 5-11. Denzel Ward is more of the same except with an elite 40 time. Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State – Height: 5-10. Weight: 183. Arm: 31.25. Hand: 8.75. 40 Time: 4.32. The talk is so often about player matchups. But, you must have some diversity before you can have meaningful matchups. Here is a scout’s quote about the last guy on the list, but it probably applies to all of them to some… Read more »

JC5100
3 years ago

Trevor, two big factors you left out in the Indiana breakdown were 1. Indiana called 73 passes. 73!! I don’t know how many were high points to Cobbs vs Ward but when I evaluated him I remember it being a lot. It’s not a realistic measurement because that is never going to happen in an NFL game, EVER. 2. Why is there no breakdown of his INT when he went up and snagged a jump ball? For people saying he’s not worth #7, I have him as my #2 player in the draft and he’s going to go top 10.… Read more »

JC5100
Reply to  Trevor Sikkema
3 years ago

I thought the pick vs Indiana was thrown higher, maybe the QB was attempting to but just didn’t enough air on it. That’s what I was talking about. There’s a breakdown of every pass at Ward in that game from cleveland.com.

http://www.cleveland.com/osu/2017/09/what_happened_the_18_times_ind.html

Going at Ward, Indiana was 8/18, 58 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT with 1 PI. That’s a 47.9 NFL QB rating.

Brandonges
3 years ago

Unrelated to the article, but Trevor, you COULDN’T care less about the fabricated negative outcomes of a grown adult human being doing something harmless on their own time. Sorry to be “that guy”, but it’s all too common of a mistake and a major pet peeve.

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