Cover 3 is a weekly feature column written by PewterReport.com’s Tampa Bay Buccaneers beat writer Trevor Sikkema published every Tuesday. The column, as its name suggests, comes in three phases: a statistical observation, an in-depth film breakdown, and a “this or that” segment where the writer asks the reader to chose between two options.

Sikkema’s Stat of the Week

I’m the kind of guy who likes to finish what he starts. I don’t say that to pump up my ego on some sort of superior work ethic. Trust me, I know there are times when that comes into question; I’m not perfect. But I think what drives me to want to complete something is because I hate wasting time.

I don’t even have some cheesy cliche that I point to like “time is money” or anything like that as my motivation. I just know that the more time I spend on something, the more likely I’m going to see it through because I can’t stand the thought of wasting time. There is nothing more annoying than knowing that all the time, effort, energy, etc. that you might pour into something ends up being for naught. And I don’t even mean when you try something, it doesn’t work and you live and learn. I mean when, at the end of the day, whatever you did was just a big ol’ waste of time.

As this Buccaneers season grows on us, it is becoming more and more apparent that this current regime in Tampa Bay has just been a waste of time.

And it’s annoying for fans, I’m sure, because the whole point of buying a jersey or a ticket or proclaiming your fan-hood is that you’re investing in something. It’s about a commitment that you will be with them for the long haul. Sure, you know there are going to be good days and bad days, but you’re in it because you believe that at the end of the season, even if just one time, it will be all worth it. That wearing that jersey proudly will have paid off. That going to that road trip will give you a memory worth telling of your favorite team. That the commitment you’ve made to the team will be matched by the team’s commitment in itself to put together a winner.

You’re not going to get that out of this three-year – or four-year, depending on how you look at it – current Bucs regime, and that’s frustrating.

It’s frustrating because it hasn’t been a learning experience. It’s been a waste.

It’s been a waste of the most talented roster the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have had since their Super Bowl era – or so we thought. The highest paid defensive line in the NFL, what people thought would be a good combination of young and old on that side of the ball, a veteran defensive coaching staff going into the year.

And on the other side, Tampa Bay has the best deep threat player in NFL history at wide receiver in DeSean Jackson, one of the top wide receivers in the league in Mike Evans, one of the best mismatch players in the game at tight end in O.J. Howard, an extra tight end on top of that in Cameron Brate, an offensive line that was suppose to be improved and budding. But somehow it doesn’t matter. The Bucs can’t get it done.

Bucs RB Doug Martin - Photo by: Mark Lomoglio/PR
Bucs RB Doug Martin – Photo by: Mark Lomoglio/PR

It’s been a waste of a good salary cap situation. I can somewhat understand the whole Doug Martin thing because the guy was coming off being the second-best running back in the NFL for the second time in five years in his contract year. I get that. But J.R. Sweezy? Chris Baker? Will Gholston? Brate? Brent Grimes? Those deals were bad. And to top it all off. Now your window is closing with players like Gerald McCoy and Jackson, who will have to be moved now, as the team clearly no longer has a window to win lining up with their cap commitments there.

It’s been a waste of some good draft pick opportunities. I understand that you can play the “we could’ve had this guy!” when you look back on draft classes, and that’s not really a fair thing to do most of the time. But as time goes on, Jason Licht’s drafts look less promising. Now, you can say that the coaches have failed some of these players, and I would agree with you, but I can’t let them all off the hook.

Vernon Hargreaves is a nickel cornerback drafted in the Top 15. Noah Spence isn’t even making this roster next year. Roberto Aguayo … I don’t have to say any more. The 2017 draft looks great, but man, it’s an uphill climb for that 2018 class already – perhaps that’s coaching, too. Not saying it can’t happen, you just wonder how those players specifically will be viewed if a total house cleaning is on the way. And even the 2015 class. Jameis Winston’s future with the Bucs is now up in the air. Guard Ali Marpet has been good, but the amount they might be about to pay Donovan Smith and Kwon Alexander for the production they bring? Are they believing in those guys more than they should? Because that’s never a good gamble, and this regime has gambled like that before and failed.

It’s a waste of a talented team by this coaching staff, and a waste of what we thought was suppose to be continuity. Dirk Koetter was a guy who was a no BS kind of coach. You like that. You thought it could work. You thought you could pair that coaching attitude with an attitude of new players and it would all work out; you know, change things.

Man, it hasn’t.

This coaching staff looks worse and worse by the week. I mean, for example, how do you stand in front of the media and tell them that ideally you’d like to win the toss and start the game on offense, and then in your very next game you win the toss and send your beat-up defense out there first on the road, oh which, by the way, got scored on within five minutes.

Now it’s so bad we don’t know who’s at fault – the players or the coaches. In fact, I’d argue that now it’s both. We don’t even know who’s really calling plays, what the politics of all the decisions behind the scenes might be. Due to a failed marriage within each other, they’ve all become a waste of each other’s time. At least in a sense that if they move on and have success elsewhere it won’t benefit the Bucs.

Bucs QB Jameis Winston - Photo by: Getty Images
Bucs QB Jameis Winston – Photo by: Getty Images

And finally, worst of all, it’s a waste of Winston. If any of you have read my work before you know that I hold Winston plenty accountable in his failures here. But Koetter was retained by this staff and made the head coach FOR Winston. Now we’re getting a clearer picture that the two are fighting against each other – and probably have been for quiet some time. Winston hasn’t improved the way he’s needed to. I don’t know if it’s out of rebellion or just lack of awareness. Whatever it is, he has not been coached to be the first quarterback in franchise history to sign a second contract with the team, a feat many thought was set in stone when they drafted. Koetter and Winston have failed one another, they’ve failed the investments made in each, and they’ve failed those who root for them endlessly.

Now it might all just be a waste.

If it is, it’s all a waste of time. It’s a waste of a another regime. A waste of another attempt at a rebuild, the fifth this team has had since they fire their last winning head coach.

Even now, at this point of the season, every extra win is a waste. It’s a waste at a better draft pick, one that people totally new could be using to select the next wave of players this team will hope can cure a cursed culture.

You all will always be Bucs fans. Love and good-hearted passion are two great emotions to have, two that exist a lot in sports. There’s more that goes into this than just the results on the field. The friendships you form and people you get to meet and talk football with on social media and in real life, the organizations, charities and businesses you get to be a part of, the feeling of community with a place you may call home or have called home before, all of that still makes it worth being a fans.

That’s what makes it worth sticking around. But when the thing that brings you all together fails you, it never feels good.

It just feels like a waste of time.

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Trevor Sikkema is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers beat reporter and NFL Draft analyst for PewterReport.com. Sikkema, an alumnus of the University of Florida, has covered both college and professional football for much of his career. As a native of the Sunshine State, when he's not buried in social media, Sikkema can be found out and active, attempting to be the best athlete he never was. Sikkema can be reached at: [email protected]

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  1. Don’t care about the draft order. This team needs to play hard and win so the next regime has something to evaluate the roster by. If we pick at 15, it’s still a good pick. If the new regime wants to pick higher, then trade up.

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    • Yup … the teams that are consistently good also tend to pick last … yet they still pick well, which is why they are consistently good.

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  2. It seems to me that Vea might have more success if they flipped him to guard? He doesn’t seem to have that attack mentality, so maybe he’s better suited to protect? So, how high up to do you go Trevor to try to clean up this dumpster fire? Do the Bucs need a president of operations? Do the Glazers own any of this as they are the one constant on this team from the Super Bowl on?

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  3. “….every extra win is a waste.”

    It doesn’t have to be but because we have the Glazers and their stupid rule not to fire HCs midseason then yes, it is a total waste to win games with Koetter as Head Coach. Fire him now, make Monken the interim.

    Win or lose with Monken as interim, it would be better for Winston and better for this team. Koetter has consistently shown he is inconsistent and/or slow making good decisions and consistent with bad ones. Koetter has no vision for the defense and his buddy Mike Smith was a crutch to lean on.

    Koetter was the right decision to move on from Lovie Smith and keep things stable for Winston. Yes, Winston’s off-field issues let everyone down this year but we all know that the losing record we have this year isn’t because of Quarterbacks…. it’s because of the defense…. where Dirk Koetter has no passion and Mike Smith was terrible.

    Get us a real head coach in the offseason. Who knows. Maybe we win out with Monken as an interim. Good problem to have, I say. But I doubt that would happen. Cuz defense.

    Removing one of the weakest links on this team (Koetter) gives us hope for the future now! The Glazers should show some passion and enthusiasm for not tolerating Koetter any longer.

    It’s Koetter’s lack of development as a Head Coach that has hurt this team more than anyone can argue over a lack of development on Winston.

    Winning cultures need to thrive from top to bottom and bottom to top. The Glazers have an opportunity here to show some enthusiasm for a winning culture and they should seize it. Fire Koetter now.

    “Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.” – Ralph Waldo Emerson

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    • Koetter is not the weakest link in the franchise … not even close. The weakest link is Licht, and the second weakest link is the players he brings in … those are really two sides of the very same coin.

      Firing Koetter today would achieve exactly nothing. He may well, and probably should be, fired come January, but only as part of a housecleaning that starts first and foremost with Jason Licht, an absolutely terrible general manager and the direct cause of most of the futility of the Buccaneers’ franchise.

      Preferably a great football man such as Tony Dungy is hired by the Baby Glazers as President of Football Operations, and then he brings in a quality GM, whom he oversees continuously to make sure that none of the crap that Licht has been serving us for the last five seasons gets repeated … and then Tony and the GM launch a head coach search and find us the next Sean McVey.

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      • There is not enough information to form that kind of definitive opinion on Jason Licht. Some of our draft picks have been good. I’m not sure how many of our picks can be solely put on Licht or on the coaches begging for certain players they think would fit their putrid defensive system. The offensive system is decent but Koetter’s not even the best play-caller for his own system. So I disagree. Koetter is the weakest link.

        Licht needs an opportunity to bring in HIS coach. Koetter’s opportunity to be a Head Coach happened because the Glazers made a power play on Lovie Smith and Lovie Smith didn’t buckle. So he got canned.

        Koetter was the wise choice but it didn’t take long for us all to realize that he needed development as a NFL Head Coach just as desperately as Winston needed development being a NFL QB. Here we are in his third year and the guy still doesn’t even know how to use the red flag, much less communicate with his own players as sometimes the media knows what’s going on before the players do.

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        • The entire 2016 draft can definitely be blamed on Licht, I know we have had kicker problems. But you never trade up into the 2nd round to draft a kicker. Vernon Hargreaves was a reach. Who did the Bears draft with the pick we traded to them Leonard Floyd, who has been a solid pro so far. You can definitely blame a lot of the drafts on Jason Licht. Just go back and look at the 2014 draft as well, no one is on this team anymore beside Mike Evans. Has Licht brought some good players in yes. But the 2014 and 2016 draft, then passing on Derwin James last year. Plus his losing record as a GM is enough to get him fired. I do not want that man responsible for another offseason

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        • And it sure does appear many defensive acquisitions were made to “fit” the preferences of Smith and the Smith before him. Grimes, VH3, Vea, Baker, Gholston, Conte, Allen, McClain, and on and on. Guys that were projected as system fits.

          This is what mediocre coaches do when the going gets tough. They double-down on what they know. Lovie did this and got his run of the free agent market only to have the team regress even further. We’ve seen the same under Koetter. Stubbornly repeating failed philosophies, ideologies, and systems only to fail again despite hand-picked personnel.

          Maybe Licht’s biggest failure has been placating coaches with the guys they feel comfortable with. The misses are misses either way and that is on him, but maybe with his own choice of coach and his own vision of the roster we will see better results. I’d very much like to see both Licht and Jameis for one more year with a new staff before we risk throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

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          • Thanks for commenting, Ken. I’m thinking similarly. What potential Head Coach wouldn’t want a GM who is a team-player? Seems to me that Licht picked a lot of guys Mike Smith and Dirk Koetter wanted.

            But I’ll say again, the scrutiny on Licht’s picks are warranted and other fans have explained those reasons well.

            Nevertheless, I would also like to see Licht pick a new Head Coach next year with Winston on the one-year option. I feel Licht was somewhat handcuffed to pick Koetter as the Glazers fired Lovie Smith prematurely to the five-year plan everybody was saying he was on at that time. It made too much sense to choose Koetter to keep from having Winston, Mike Evans, Donovan Smith, Cam Brate and Ali Marpet a whole new offensive system.

            Now that those core players have gone thru some professional growing pains, learning a new offensive system won’t be the burden now that it would’ve been three years ago. Hopefully, the Glazers do not throw the baby out with the bathwater so that a new Head Coach (a better HC with a better defensive coordinator) can come in and work with Licht, Winston and these core players. The Mike Evans/Winston connection is bound to attract some good candidates and being that Licht is known to work with the Head Coach in getting personnel he wants then it should be an appealing job. Hopefully we find an HC and a DC who is more up to speed with current trends in the pass-happy NFL and are also better leaders and have better player development skills.

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      • Every team wants to hire the “next Sean McVey”, but that rarely happens. I’d go so far to say that every prospective NFL coach is the “next Sean McVey” in the right circumstances. A decent defense, a solid running game, and a good QB goes a long way toward making the coach look good. There are a lot more Norv Turner’s than Bill Belichick’s in the league. Players make the coach as much, if not more, as the coach makes the players. Witness the Jaguars without a running game.

        Criticize Koetter all you want, but with the injuries and lack of playmakers on defense even Trevor Sikkema with his dedication and All-22 access would be challenged to do better than mediocre.

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      • Most of the bad picks have been on the defensive side of the ball.

        I suspect bad coaching has a lot to do with failed player development on defense.

        That is neither Licht’s nor Koetter’s direct fault, but they do share some responsibility.

        Before another horrific rebuilding, I’d much prefer to gut the defense top to bottom and start the rebuilding process there.

        Getting rid of this offense would be a terrible waste. And while the turnovers are maddening, the offense has had to play a lot of desperation football, and overall, have played well in that situation. How often has this offense played from a lead?

        If the defense is just average, the Bucs would be 8-2 and a serious threat in the playoffs.

        Can you blame the offense for quitting on this putrid, embarrassing defense?

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        • Gotta agree that re-inventing the whole wheel in this organization is not the answer.

          They definitely could keep the offense. They could even keep Koetter another year IF they brought in the right Defensive Coordinator and brought in more defensive talent.

          Player development is a BIG issue. Players like VH3 had no chance to develop under Mike Smith who over-stressed off-coverage as a main philosophy. VH3’s natural abilities excel in press coverage and Mike Smith’s philosophy wasn’t good for any of our corners except for Brent Grimes.

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      • You’re continued defense of as coach who hasnt won more than 6 games but 1 time in his 5 years here is comical. Koetter is a joke, clueless for sticking in a 36 year old journeyman qb, and cant tell when hes got a timeout or not to even challenge a play. But you go ahead and pretend it’s not his job to put his players in the best position to win. Lichr is fully culpable as well as his last two drafts have sucked ,but stop absolving kotter for being a 2rd rate head coach.

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        • Your reading comprehension, your comprehension of anything at all, is nil.

          I don’t defend Koetter, I specifically said that the new GM should try and hire a better coach, the next Sean McVey.

          What I state forcefully and with all the facts on my side is that it all starts with the GM, who is the very same guy who hired Koetter, and who signed every single member of the current player roster to contracts.

          The root cause is Licht.

          But you refuse to acknowledge that because you are a dyed in the wool Winston fan, and you want Winston above all else, and the only guy that keeps Winston on the roster is Licht.

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          • Perhaps the Bucs could go to the McVey store?

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          • Oh stop you tool. You keep saying it’s the players and not the play calling. Read your own posts you schmuck. And since you clearly cant read mine, ive said licht needs to go and its got nothing to do with winston. None of this does ,but you cant get his jock out of your mouth long enough to find the faults in our head coach. You were proven wrong last week and it’s just to easy to make you look stupid. Remember when you said playcalling doesnt make a difference? Wrong again genius. Remember when you said Jameis should sit for fitztragic?
            Wrong again genius. You’re not even remotely the smartest guy in the room, stop pretending to be.

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  4. Losing for a higher draft pick is losing, period. It matters far less WHERE you pick than HOW WELL you pick. With Licht, he wastes our draft picks and our free agent signings because he is not a good judge of players.

    Thomas Bassinger has a very interesting article posted on the Tampa Bay Times this week postulating that is is easy to see how the Bucs could fail to win another game this season because of one thing – turnover margin. We give way too may away, and hardly take any back ourselves.

    The Bucs have a total net turnover margin of minus 27 so far this season after 10 games, while the all time NFL record for worst turnover margin for a full season is minus 30. Teams win few games when they consistently lose the turnover margin battle. Unless and until the Bucs reverse that stat, pretty much nothing else matters.

    So why are we so bad on turnover margin? Mostly due to interceptions by both of our starting quarterbacks … and very few takeaways by our defense.

    And guess what … coaches don’t throw INTs or put the ball in the dirt … nor do they fail to make INTs. That is 100% on the players, and on the guy who selects the players who give the ball away but don’t take the ball away.

    Our quarterbacks, well both of them are who they are – verified turnover machines through their entire NFL careers.

    Our defenders, well, they mostly play soft zone coverages which capable NFL quarterbacks pick apart because they do not have the ability to play tight man coverage, nor are they good enough to collaborate with their teammates on effective zone coverages. The D line doesn’t put a lot of pressure on opposing quarterbacks, and our back seven are incapable of making plays on the ball.

    The only waste really is if the Glazers retain Licht for another year of player selection futility. Whether the new GM wants to keep Koetter or not, that should be his decision. I rather expect he’ll want to bring in someone new, the next Sean McVey who can coach an offense to brilliant performances consistently, and get the most out of our next starting quarterback who is not on our roster today.

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    • You fail time and again to realize this offense, you know, koetters offense, is awful for QBs. You watch thay game last night? That’s offensive creativity. Our offense is predicated on the long ball and low percentage throws. And koetter cant even pretend to know how to use a running back. But you’re right, koetter should be brought back next year named on his extreme offensive genius.

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      • Matt Ryan is on record saying that Koetter has his way and as a personal standard, he just expects the team to execute it better than the other team can game-plan for it. Koetter’s system is difficult for young QBs moreso than the vet QBs.

        With that said, it’s a testament to how well Winston has done under Koetter by breaking NFL passing records as the youngest QB to do so.

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        • This is is exactly the case. Koetter believes that if executed flawlessly his system cannot be defensed. It requires the utmost precision. An off-target ball, a receiver falling or running the wrong route, a bad read, and the result is a turnover. It calls for an extremely high degree of difficulty to be maintained throughout.

          Not only does this make things very hard for the QB and his supporting cast it inherently carries a degree of infallibility for Koetter. If anything goes wrong its someone else’s fault not his. There’s no need for adjustments, for evolution and implementation of trending concepts, for team-specific game-planning. You have the perfect system. You just have to be perfect in executing it. It is much the same with Lovie and his system. Remember how safety after safety in both Chicago and Tampa just weren’t doing it right only to go on elsewhere and play well? Remember how Darrelle Revis was not a “fit”?

          Clinging to systems with stubborn rigidity is the hallmark of a mediocre coach. Good coaches adapt. They design the system around their personnel not the other way around. Ever notice how one week the Pats run 40 times then the next throw 50? Know why? Because they adapt to ever opponent. They attack

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          • Agree wholeheartedly. It’s not that Koetter’s offensive system is bad if you have the weapons! The problem is, and you nailed it on the head, Koetter is stubborn! His stubborn mentality is a lot like Mike Smith’s. He’s pretty much duplicated the last year of his tenure in Atlanta over here.

            2014 Atlanta had a top 10 offense and a last place defense, except over here, our defense is even worse! That year Atlanta ended the season at 6-10. Would not surprise me at all if we ended 6-10 it would be a perfect mirror match!

            As Head Coach, you gotta have a vision and a passion for both sides of the ball. They should’ve taken play-calling from him the first year he was Head Coach. But who knew?

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      • I don’t fail to do anything.

        You maintain that Koetter is “awful for QBs” – yet as of today, the Tampa Bay passing offense is no. 1 in the entire league.

        WTF? What more do you want besides best in the entire league? Are you trying to say with a straight face that no. 1 isn’t good enough … or that any offense that is the no. 1 ranked passing offense is somehow “awful for QBs?

        You literally sound insane, dude, I mean, really.

        SMH squared!!!

        Coaches don’t throw interceptions. Quarterbacks do that. I guarantee that there is not a single play in Koetter’s playboock that calls for the QB to throw it to the opposing defense, or to toss it up for a jump ball to a short receiver who is double covered.

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        • We’re No.1 because we have to throw it almost every play to try and keep pace with this defense. We’re always in a hole, so we never are in the situation where we run the ball and chew clock, not that we can run effectively anyway. That No.1 is a deceptive stat because we’re always chasing and we end up getting a lot of yards when the game is pretty much out of reach, which has been a staple under Koetter pretty much since he took over.

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        • Coaches don’t throw interceptions, but they do dictate the conditions and protocols for the QB on the field. If you ask your QB to make high difficulty throws constantly while also being under a tremendous amount of pressure you’re going to have turnovers.

          Also, by what measure is this the top passing offense? Total yards? That’s asinine. That has to be the least qualitative measure of passing success possible. As per usual the less someone knows about something the stronger they feel. Never fails.

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  5. As much as I hate to say it, I’m cheering for a top 3 pick/chance at Bosa.

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    • We’ll be needing a new starting quarterback too.

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    • Yea there is so much we can do with a top 3 pick. Greedy Williams, Ed Oliver, Clellin Ferrell, Nick Bosa, Quinnen Williams. Even a slight trade down and pick Deointe Thompson. Then in the second round another defensive player like Polite or Montez Sweat if they are there

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      • So you comment above about how 2016 draft was a failure and come down here to talk about how another draft is supposed to be the answer for this organization’s losing ways??

        This roster has plenty of talent right now.

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        • If Licht is not the one drafting then yes there is a chance to add to more talent to this already talented roster is. I dont get the disconnect, are you trying to say the 2016 draft was a success?

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          • In many ways the draft is a lotto system. Getting excited over the draft is a waste of emotional investment right now. We need better coaching and better player development.

            Mike Smith’s off-coverage philosophy was a bad fit for VH3 who excelled in press coverage. VH3 had no chance to be successful under Mike Smith and Dirk Koetter.

            Everybody’s scratching their heads why there’s no interceptions and no takeaways when Mike Smith has been here more than 2 years stressing off-coverage to our secondary.

            Licht definitely deserves scrutiny for his drafts, but the coaching and player development should be higher priority. It won’t matter who you draft if the coaches are bad at their jobs and those responsible for player development are bad at their jobs. I’d rather change what’s necessary to change than change EVERYTHING just because we’re frustrated from the losing. It would just be re-inventing the wheel.

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      • Neither Polite nor Sweat makes it to the second round Imo. In fact I think the Polite could end up being a top- 10 Guy

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        • Yea, I dont expect either of them to be there either. It was more wishful thinking lol

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  6. It was apparent a long time ago. This should have been done 2 years ago. Jason Licht is NOT a NFL General Manager. He never should have been in this job period. He has set us back years with his failed Drafts and Free Agency busts. This thing needs to be completely scrapped Front Office and Coaching staff. The Glazers will feel the pain the next few weeks when the stands are empty. they will get 30-40 thousand maybe. Such a shame that we are at this point again. Time for Drastic change

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  7. Yes, a wasted opportunity. I’m a die hard BUCS fan in VA (born is St Pete in ’68 & sat in the old sombrero with a bag on my head as a kid…I saw the Yucks). I buy direct TV only for the basement just so I can watch all the BUCS games. The BUCS are a heart breaking, gut wrenching disappointment. I like many yell at the TV with these BUCS. My thoughts:
    – Koetter is not a HC as much as we hoped he would be (PR called for him to replaced Lovie)
    – Draft picks don’t always turn out to be studs in years 1-2 (Sapp, Lynch, Barber to name a few who didn’t become who they were until years 3-4). Some time to judge. Vea missed all preseason with injury, so that hurts development as a rookie.
    – I know Licht has missed on some draft picks and FA, but so does every other GM. Some of his choices might have been better with better coaching. He also has found gems. Less judgement on him than Koetter.
    – Some of the draft picks now deemed disappointments were praise by PR & many fans at the time. How much is due to coaching? (Goff was a BUST under fisher)

    Fans like me & PR have been screaming for change or certain players, and a lot of what they have done is what we have been advocating. It hasn’t worked (our choices haven’t always panned out). Since Trevor mentioned Spence, I remember the praise of most fans & PR for getting Spence in round 2 as a steal.

    I think Scott is right about culture. Whomever is next it has to be a leader that will drive a culture change. The organization must commit to a path and create stability. The yo yo of coachs & GM’s doesn’t work and again like Scott pointed out looks just like the Browns.

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    • Sorry, there’s been no yo yoing on GM .. the failed GM we have today has been failing for five straight years. What we’ve seen is exactly what we get.

      Never forget that if you want to blame Koetter for Bucs failures, the guy who hired Koetter is Licht … after he talked the Baby Glazers into firing Lovie Smith, and then gave him carte blanc to hire whomever he wanted to coach the team. You cannot finger Koetter without fingering Licht.

      Simply stating that GMs don’t pick winners on every pick is a dumb argument. Everybody knows that.

      Good GMs, however, select far more successful players than do the bad GMs. You measure a GM by his long term success or failure, in simple math of wins vs. losses. Over five seasons, the long term numbers as well as the shorter term trends say that Licht gets the hook.

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      • Naplesfan not true. Rich McKay was the GM for the BUCS from 1994-2003. How many coaches and how many bad/questionable draft picks did he have before he found the right guy & players that turned this organization around?

        The yo yo of GM’s & coaches began after he was pushed out with Gruden & Allen.

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        • Actually, Rich McKay precisely proves my point. He ran the drafts that selected our Hall of Fame players, and additional players nominated for the HOF, and that produced the only period of consistent winning in the entire history of the Bucs franchise. His players (both drafted and traded or signed as free agents) produced the only Super Bowl in franchise history. The W-L record under McKay (1994 to 2002) was 79-65, or 0.550 (not counting playoffs. His teams went to the playoffs in 5 of 9 seasons. And won 5 playoff games.

          All other Bucs GMs combined for a record of 176-339, or 0.342 ,,, and went to the playoffs a total of 5 times, winning a total of 1 playoff game, over a total of 34 seasons.

          Jason Licht’s record over five seasons?

          25 wins to 61 losses (so far this season), or 0.291. And zero playoff appearances, so therefore of course zero playoff wins.

          Not only is Jason Licht delivering results vastly worse than Rich McKay did, but he’s even significantly underperforming the average W-L rate for all the Bucs GMs NOT named Rich McKay.

          Licht is even significantly underperforming his immediate predecessor, Mark Dominik, who complied a W-L record of 28-52, or 0.350 and no playoff appearances or wins, which was plenty enough to get him fired after 5 years of futility.

          Even Dominick’s own immediate predecessor, Bruce Allen, compiled a significantly better record than Licht before he was fired, going 45-51, or 0.469 and two playoff appearances. Bucs fans were screaming for Bruce Allen’s head, but he way outperformed every other GM not named Rick McKay, including Jason Licht.

          Facts are facts.

          Ws and Ls are the bottom line.

          For GMs it takes more than one or two seasons to figure out, in most cases, if they are winners or losers. Five years, however, is plenty enough record on which to judge any GM in the league.

          And Licht miserably fails on all counts.

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          • You know, it takes a really moronic idiot to downvote statistical facts.

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      • My point is Lovie hired Licht, Licht did not hire Lovie.
        Lovie had to go (everyone called for that).
        Licht did pick Koetter no question. That being said Koetter was the consensus pick by most at the time including PR.

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        • Doesn’t matter who any “consensus pick” is – only the GM is accountable. The GM is accountable for all hires and fires and all player signings – only the GM is so accountable.

          And no, Lovie Smith did not hire Jason Licht. Only team owners, or their team presidents if they have one,have the legal authority to hire GMs. Lovie Smith reportedly recommended Licht for the job, and the stupid Baby Glazers agreed, which was yet another in a 11 year long wasteland of bad personnel decisions by the Baby Glazers …and the results, in Ws and Ls, are the results.

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          • Naples: I think we’re around the same age. Just curious. Why do you continue to refer to the 50+ Glazer family as “baby” in every one of your countless “yeah but” posts? I’m suspect it’s your attempt to insult them, but perhaps you have another reason. Is that really necessary? For me, along with your name-calling of fellow posters, it taints your otherwise thoughtful comments, many with which I even agree.

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          • Awww look Naples is sensitive to downvotes everyone. Let’s make sure we all upvote the snowflake so he can sleep at night. You’re a child dude.

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  8. Yes another wasted season. We fans have gotten used to it though. I’m a glutton for punishment though and each year have hope they at least getting little better. Lol. That’s asking too much though for this franchise. I’ll still be a fan but done going to games for a while. Gave most my tickets to my employees last year. Went to Steelers game this year and said I’ll watch the rest on the couch. Lol. Hopefully they can get a real coach. Koetter has just utterly failed this year. Looks so defeated too.

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  9. Been on fence with Licht too but after this season seeing Jones and Vea both do very little I’m fine with him heading down the road too. Not the worst GM we’ve had by far but overall more misses than hits to say he deserves to stay.

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    • At a 0.291 winning percentage over five seasons to date, Licht is very close to being the worst GM we’ve ever had. He is well below the average for Bucs GMs, even well below the average of all Bucs GMs not named Rich McKay, as I wrote above.

      His defenders inexplicably continue to make excuses for him … a lot of that is driven by the every shrinking cadre of Winston fans who understand that Licht is the only thing standing between Winston being off the roster altogether come March … so they (like cgmaster) continue to either outright defend Licht or attempt to make silly arguments that the only problem with the Bucs is Koetter … just as the same guys a few weeks ago argued that the only thing wrong with our defense was Coach Smith.

      It’s propaganda, not reasoning, that drives the Licht defenders after five years of sorry assed results.

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  10. Y’all have written some great responses with good reasoning so far! I’m reading all of them don’t worry.

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    • Sikkema for GM!

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  11. You are very nice to Vea with that analysis. I was at the game and I wondered why when he went in he never seemed to go after the runner, even when they went right by him. It seems he is so focused on the block and not messing up he forgets about the play around him. You examples exemplify what I saw every time in the game.

    Did he have that tendency in college? If so, wasn’t it noticed by the recruiters? I cannot find any of his college play anywhere – I would be very interested to see if he had the same tendency on the college level as well. If he did, that is on the scouting department which is under Licht’s control, not Koetter.

    Licht is very much hit and miss. He makes a number of good moves like picking up JPP on a trade, but then goes and drafts a kicker in the second round who is a disaster. He is not the worst GM the Bucs have had, but he is not the best either (McKay gets that honor by a decent margin and his draft department). The question I have is you get rid of Licht, who is clearly a better choice out there? Do we trust the Glazers to find that person with no football insider knowledge? They picked up Licht from Arizona because they had at the time a good program and picking up talent. Does that mean they go to the Patriots and get an assistant manager in the hope he turns into a good one?

    Last, you try to win every game – unless you are trying to get an early choice to to go yet again for a QB. I hope they don’t do that. At this point they try to win and draft wherever they are. Hate to be fatalistic, but what good does it do to draft first if you cannot get that pick right?

    Let’s review the #1 draft picks of all time, shall we:
    1976 – Lee Roy Selmon – that worked out very well
    1977 – Ricky Bell – not a bad pick, but Ricky Dorsett was ranked better… and turned out much better.
    1986 – Bo Jackson – threatened before the draft to never play for Tampa. Followed through, played baseball instead until traded to the Raiders where he played football in addition to baseball after the baseball season was over.
    1987 – Vinny Testaverde – never developed into a consistent QB, threw too many INTs. Jim Harbough, the fourth QB taken at #26, was probably the best QB in the draft, but Vinny had the longest NFL career at 21 years.
    2015 – Jamis Winston. Verdict is still out on this QB. Time will tell if he is worth the #1 pick. Up to now, he is very inconsistent and hard to tell where he will go.

    On the other hand, the Bucs have done better when they don’t have such a high pick:
    1995 – Warren Sapp – picked 12th, Derrick Brooks – picked 28th
    1999 – Anthony McFarland, 15th
    2008 – Aqib Talib – 20th (has played very well in Tampa and since leaving Tampa – but had off field problems early on in his career)

    So absolutely not – don’t try to lose games – don’t even think of it. I fully disagree with you. Draft has very little to do with position, it has to do with how good the draft department is and the GM. If you have to pick very high to get it right, it means you are not very good at being a GM and running a good draft department. How else do the Patriots do so well? They have been very good for over a decade, and while that has a lot being good at QB, they have also been good on defense and had a decent offense for many years- with few high draft picks.

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  12. One of the difficulties in evaluating Licht is an apparent disconnect between the coaches and the personnel staff. There really has to be a symbiosis between the types of players necessary for the offensive and defensive systems and the identification and selection of those players. I am not yet convinced that either Koetter or Smith provided a clear direction to the scouting and pro-personnel folks about the “type” of players that were desired at different positions. Successful teams don’t just select “any” player- they select the best players to fit the type of systems that they run. My sense is that the coaches have been wildly inconsistent on this, and as a result we have drafted/signed players based upon other criteria than their ability to play within the offensive or defensive systems (to the extent that there is one-especially on defense).
    When Monte was the D-coordinator, it was fairly easy to figure out the type of players that would work in the system- this is the reason that Jamie Duncan and Shelton Quarles were successful, they fit the mold that Monte wanted and he knew how to take advantage of their abilities. I just don’t see that in the current coaching staff. We seem to consistently be in a position of having players who are not on the same page with the coaching staff. If they are not drafting specific abilities in players but also not adjusting the scheme to fit the players’ ability then the result is what we now see on the field.

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    • a-bomb
      I agree that there appears to be a disconnect between players abilities and coaching. How many of the turnovers, missed assignments are because you are asking a players to play in a system that does not use their strengths. Reid in KC has been written about how he has changed his coaching to the players and structure of where the game is heading. I wonder if our coaches have issues being creative in their approach to their jobs. I know Monte was.

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  13. Well, Herman Edwards is famous for his press conference rant while head coach of the New York football Jets when he implored, “Hello! You play to win the game!” And he is right. The moment every player and every coach steps onto a football field, one goal must be in mind: win the game. Anything less is detrimental to the integrity of the game itself. Why would any player or coach want to step onto the football field with the goal in mind of losing??!!! If they are all the competitors that they say they are, then there is no way that they would accept anything less than trying to the best of their ability to win each and every game. And as a fan, I expect and demand that, too. And who is guaranteed tomorrow? Any player? Any coach? Any college scout? Any front office executive? Any draft prospect? Sorry, but no one is. Who is to say that any future draft pick, 1st round or 7th round or any round in between, is going to be successful? How does anyone know that a player selected higher in next year’s draft is going to turn out better than a player at the same position selected lower? You just don’t. Nothing in the future is guaranteed (except for death and taxes, of course). So I don’t want to see the Bucs lose their remaining games just for the hopes of selecting as high as possible in the 2019 NFL Draft. To me, that’s a losers’ mentality and I don’t like it. The only way that the culture surrounding the Bucs is going to change is to find ways to win, NOW!!! I want to see victories every time the Bucs take the field! I want to see every player on the roster and every coach on the staff and all the trainers and doctors…everyone involved with the team giving it everything they’ve got to win each and every game! I’ve seen more than enough losses over the years. So even if we are looking at a CTRL-ALT-DELETE reset for the franchise at the end of the season yet again, I want to see the Bucs beat the 49ers this Sunday, because that is why you play the game….to win!!!

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    • bucs have nothing to gain…loose the rest for better draft pics for new gm . Waiting for the next season !!!

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  14. Been saying since we drafted him, vea isnt good. All.i heard was ” did you watch his college tape”? Sont need to, the stats speak volumes. He was never a pass rusher and licht bought into the “athletic” crap about him. Production matters way more than athletic training numbers. Licht whiffed on a sure fire player like derwin for this show west coast city who had zero fire on the football field. Unless we switch to a3-4 vea will continue to be useless

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    • Damn auto spell screwed that post all up

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  15. Losing is a disease that is very hard to cure, as the Bucs have proven time and again. Losing on purpose is even worse, because it defines the team as losers… good at losing. We need winners. Win now. Now! Losing takes no talent whatsoever and simply demoralizes the organization even further – if that’s possible.

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  16. As much as people want to blame Licht for some questionable selections. I get it.
    Yet,I have to agree with Trevor in regards to Koetter.
    His sole purpose of getting hired was to work with JW and help him achieve his potential. While some of you may say that he isn’t a Franchise quarterback. I will agree that he has some faults.
    But, there are ways you can scheme to cut down some of the turnovers. Such as more running plays. Take away some of his options in the pass offense. They do it all the time except here. Have him read only half of the field. These are things you can do to mitigate some of the turnovers.
    As I am sure some will say, he was projected as pro ready. But does it matter, after you get him in and you see his weakness. You as the Coach, can help make him successful. If your goal is for this team to successful.
    As for the defense….There was an Article out there by Marchant….He talked about the Mike Smith defensive philosophy. How he preferred bigger defensive linemen. Instead of the more athletic types.
    I bring that up because you can see that in the choices Licht has made in the guys he brought in as well as the draft choice. So he was trying to fill a requested need instead of selecting for need. Which is what has killed this team.

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    • Noah Spence was not a big guy when Licht burned a high second round pick on him. William Gholston was a Dominik draft selection when Licht poured 7 million a year contract to retain his services despite no pass rushing ability.

      In the end the GM is in charge of signing the players. The GM works with the coaches to get the types of players they want but it’s the front office and not the coaches that engage in contract talks with free agents and decide how much they are willing to pay for a players services. It’s also the front office that builds the draft board and rate the players values relative to where they will be selected. Mike Smith is not the reason that the defense lacks talent, Jason Licht is.

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  17. One of the most unfortunate things to happen last year was the Jameis TD throw to Chris Godwin to beat the Saints last year in week 17. It was effectively an exhibition game for the Bucs, perfectly meaningless. It dropped them from 5 to 7 in the draft. At 5 the Bucs would have been staring down the barrel of Bradley Chubb, or if for some reason they didn’t want pass rush, Quentin Nelson. Bradley Chubb has 9 sacks this year. NINE. Quentin Nelson had a viral video for blowing someone up and was the first guard ever to win NFL Rookie of the month. Meanwhile we traded down for Velcro Vea, MJ Stewart and Carlton Davis. Quite the consolation prize guys. I was very sad when I saw the Bucs drop in the draft and despite all the draft picks 2018 is looking like one of the worst drafts in modern history.

    “It’s been a waste of the most talented roster the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have had since their Super Bowl era – or so we thought. The highest paid defensive line in the NFL, what people thought would be a good combination of young and old on that side of the ball, a veteran defensive coaching staff going into the year.”

    You need to correct that Trevor, YOU thought they were one of the most talented rosters since the SB era. Some of your press people agreed but it wasn’t true then and it isn’t true now. I explained then as I do now that there was significant problems with the secondary and offensive line. While it’s nice to have receivers to throw to you can’t win football games if your lines are performing poorly and you can’t cover anyone. That is not a talented team because talent generally wins games and this one doesn’t. Further, you weren’t enamored with the Vea pick or the MJ Stewart pick when they were made. You wanted Guice over RoJo, you mentioned other corners like Isiah Oliver, Donte Jackson and Justin Reid. Yet when it came time to grade Licht’s draft you couldn’t be more effusive in your praise of it. I really have to wonder how there was such a switch from your reaction to the draft picks which was less than glowing to the write ups thereafter. It looks like your immediate reaction was far more accurate than the one that came a week later.

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  18. IF we are going to blow it all up and start over (again), then Licht needs to be fired now, not at the end of the season. There’s literally nothing of note the GM needs to do between now and December 31st that doesn’t merit getting a head start on looking for the right personnel leader. If you don’t do anything at the GM spot before the end of the season, then you keep Licht and you let him choose a new HC with a blank slate instead of being in a position where you’re forced to fire the HC to elevate the OC because you don’t want to lose him to another team.

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  19. Seems Koetter made the decision Fitz was his guy after the suspension – period. Made him the starter, Jamies the afterthought. Fitz was The Man from that point forward – period. Cancer D Jax, who never spent any time with #3 last year, or this year, got his money and Lamborghini, went to the vet and said throw it to me, supported him, asked to be traded when #3 was inserted as starter and convinced Koetter to stick with the Bearded One.

    After Steelers and Bears games, some folks reminded Dirk that Fitz is a 14 year journeyman QB that has flashes, but doesn’t win games. So after undermining the one guy that could be your future QB, Dirk reluctantly put #3 back in and its a disaster. Then says see, I told you he’s garbage. Brings back the Bearded One, who proceeds to PLAY like garbage, reinforcing the fact that he’s a 14 year journeyman back-up and not Dirk’s savior. And watches D Jax half ass it around the field Sunday as balls get picked off in front of him, and thankfully captured on video the leisurely jog on the final Hail Mary pass end of the game that of course gets picked, but credited to #3.

    With the season done, and likely his tenure with the Bucs, now he goes back to Jamies. In addition to looking foolish, the chances for success are either slim or none. What a mess.

    We need to move on from both Koetter and Licht. They have maintained the franchise in about the same position as when they got here – a bad team that can’t even get close to a playoff game.

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  20. If we’re keeping Koetter another year, I’d be ok with firing Warhop. Benenoch has had plenty of time to develop and I’m not sure why he’s struggling as badly as he is. Donovan Smith is inconsistent but his reliability is good and that’s got nothing to do with Warhop. Marpet got moved around way too much the last few years. Probably stunted his development. Jensen seems to be more inconsistent here than he was in Baltimore. And where’s Cappa? Looked pretty good in the Senior Bowl but he’s STILL on the inactive list…. where’s the player development on our OL???

    Is Koetter surrounded by a bunch of yes-men or something? Last week Monken said Koetter was the best play-caller he’s ever worked with. I’m sorry but when your team has proven to provide better results with Monken calling the plays and then you put Monken in a situation where he has to say something like that after the Washington game…. that’s just utter BS! That is losing culture! Those opportunities should never present themselves. The red zone stats prove without a shadow of a doubt that Monken calls plays better than Koetter. Koetter should’ve never created a situation where Monken had to say something like that when Monken is clearly doing a better job.

    After that quote, Monken went on to talk about how it’s all on the players’ execution in that Washington game. What a damn circus! At this point it’s every man for himself. If I’m an offensive player, I’m playing for myself (i.e. see DeSean Jackson). If I’m an offensive player, I’d be offended that Monken said that when the red zone stats clearly bear out that Monken is the better play-caller. LOSING CULTURE!

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    • On top of benching the best QB for the Giants game, Koetter benched Monken for the Washington game. LMAO! LOSER CULTURE! Koetter’s reactions to stop the bleeding is to bench your best players and coaches and start game-planning for Jacquiz Rodgers and Shaun Wilson.

      Next Sunday Koetter will bench JPP. Hahahaha

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  21. Why don’t they move Liedke to RG. They had him out there almost the whole final preseason game. because they thought DSmith might be out for awhile. He also played interior line during the preseason.
    This Coaching staff is very bad on judging talent. Especially Koetter, as he does not like rookies. Example: Devonte Freeman…..Look how long it took him to trust Godwin as well Howard.

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  22. Nice article Trevor and I’m loving all the comments here too. All I know for sure is that koetter has to go, we have seen enough of him here and he hasn’t turned this team around and he continuously makes bad decisions, it’s easy to let him go. As for licht, it’s hard but I think his time is up too, after watching this last draft, I questioned a lot of the picks he made and he hasn’t proven me wrong on any of them so far. Do we sit around with Jason for another year to see this last draft shows major improvement? I don’t know if I want to and I just don’t trust him to make the right choices at this next draft too. He has drafted some nice players but the bad out weighs the good, and he has shown that he doesn’t know what to do in free agency..I know he’s been trying to build the team through the draft, but you have to be able to bring in some key pieces in free agency as well and he has consistently failed at that. Also, I always believe that winning starts from the top, I’m talking about the glazers..do they even care about bringing in a winning team? I look at all of the top teams in the NFL and for the most part, those teams owners are really committed to the team. I just don’t see it with the glazers and that’s why we still have a losing culture.

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  23. Nuff said, nuff posted, if I wasn’t depressed earlier I would be now if I really cared. You see I have learned to be a Buc follower and after years of crying in my beer and and going to work pissed on Monday I learned the secrete to being a football fan in Tampa. OHIO STATE, ALABAMA, FLORIDA, FSU……….et al. College football is GREAT!!! Kids play hard, great selection of teams and I follow several. Never go away pissed, always entertained, and if the Buc’s are making fools out of themselves on Sunday, I just turn off the game and take a nap. I’ve learned to watch football for the enjoyment of the game and I will probably live several years longer because of it. It’s like when you quit smoking, or lose 30 lbs. or read a good book, or play with the grandkids, you feel good afterward.

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  24. It’s crazy that this team could easily be 6-4 right now if the QBs could protect the ball. Winston gave Cincy the game with his picks, same goes for Fitz vs Wash and then all the bad decisions vs NYG. Poor execution, poor decision making within the scheme set forth by the coaches. The coaches have to go though, possibly Licht and they need to clear some cap space. Winston hopefully plays well enough to end the season that the new regime gives him his 1 year chance.

    I was excited about Vea and hoped he could be a difference maker in the middle but the first 2 picks look pretty bad right now. I don’t care if they win or lose… I would just like to see some competent football played on both sides of the ball and Winston not turn the ball over. Execution and some fire from the guys we know will be back.

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  25. I would think any player we pick should value self worth.

    I expect the Buccaneers to go and beat the 49ers, then on to the next team.

    I don’t care where we are in draft order.
    It’s all about self worth and one should feel good about themselves if they tried their very best win or lose. Character counts!

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  26. Naplesfan, It pains me to admit this because of your hated of Winston but I agree with most of what you say in your post.

    I’m just not sure about Dungy. Like Gruden, I think he has been away from the game to long.

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  27. I’m unequivocally rooting for them to lose. Get Drew Lock or Colin Ferrell or Greedy Williams. But get the right GM and HC too. It absolutely has been a waste of time!

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  28. Trevor you are getting close now just substitute regime for Jason Licht and we are there. Everybody knows Koetter and his staff are bad but these are Jason Licht’s guys because he hand picked Dirk and assembled this roster accordingly. When the GM hand picks a terrible head coach, runs an awful defensive scheme, either missed on the franchise QB or didn’t surround him with the proper teachers/scheme to excel and has not knocked any 1st round pick out the park except OJ who looks like more luck than skill then it’s on him. People love the Mike Evans pick ignoring the fact the OBJ was drafted AFTER him and is clearly the better WR. The jury is still out on Jameis but he’s certainly done him no favors by installing an offense that ignores the run and emphasizes deep passing plays with a suspect OL and a QB that has always been TO prone. Jameis best season came when he was throwing the ball to Freddie Martino and Cecil Shorts not all these big name guys. His best season came when he had a consistent running game not when we were throwing the ball 50 times a game. The special teams have been a complete nightmare and he wastes late round picks on FBs instead of talented players with a slightly checkered past that could actually make an impact. He loves hard working guys that have low ceilings but needs players that make an impact. He must be the nicest guy out because to me the problem is very obvious and has been the beginning. He let a top 10 LT in Donald Penn walk in free agency only to replace him with a player that’s still not better than him in Donovan Smith. OJ was a good pickup but then you pay Brate all that money when realistically hes a number 2, just doesn’t make good business sense. You get rid of Chris Baker because he wasn’t hard working(which everyone knew the summer of his free agency) but you replace him with Beau Allen and Mitch Unrein and sell it to us as an improvement. Relied on a washed up Grimes after literally watching Vincent Jackson due to the exact same thing before you brought him back for his last lost season. You don’t improve as a GM you actually get worse. Bucs need a new GM and hopefully either of the Harbaughs or the KC OC Bienemy at HC next year.

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  29. Jameis is going to rip off 6 in a row.

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  30. Okay folks this is really, really simple. Keeping to the theme of simplicity, football is a simple game, if one just follows the rules. First, “it all starts up front.” The Bucs need to make free agency deals, trades and draft to build dominant offensive and defensive lines. The trade for JPP comes to mind as do drafting Ali Marpet and Donovan Smith, while the free agency acquisitions of Vinny Curry and Beau Allen haven’t worked out so well, yet, and remain to be seen if they do. Second, in the words of the late, great Coach Vince Lombardi, football is about blocking, tackling, and execution. If you block better than the other team and tackle better than the other team, you win. Working on those basic elements of football should form the bulk of what the Buccaneers do throughout OTAs and training camp along with repping the plays until they become so instinctual the players can do them in their sleep. Once those five elements, dominant offensive and defensive lines, blocking, tackling, and execution are in place then the Bucs can start worrying about the frills like franchise quarterbacks, bell cow running backs, and receivers that can take the top off of a defense, but the team will still be dangerous because it does the basics well.

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