The Bucs played their worst game of the season in London, compiling a long list of miscues. Tampa Bay couldn’t get out of their way en route to seven turnovers and even more missed opportunities in their 37-26 loss.

Here were the most disappointing players from the game.

QB Jameis Winston

This game was ugly from the beginning for Winston, who threw an interception on literally the first play of the game. Winston looked out of sorts all game and once again did not have rhythm for the second straight week. It didn’t help that he had defenders in his face all game, but Winston made some throws that were just head scratching. Winston threw five interceptions in what was by far his, and the Bucs, worst game of the season. His most egregious play in the game happened at the end of the second quarter when the Bucs were in the red zone. Exactly one play after Winston was hit and fumbled the ball, he scrambled once again and waited way too long before he got hit and fumbled once more, this time with Carolina recovering. It was absolutely inexcusable by Winston to not get rid of the ball or run forward, and the fact that he just fumbled a play before made it even worse. Winston had six turnovers on the day with five interceptions and one fumble. He was also inaccurate on a lot of throws during the game and just seemed lost at times. Winston did have pass for one touchdown but it was mostly with the game out of reach. Winston’s final stat line was 30 completed passes on 54 attempts for 400 yards with one touchdown, five interceptions and two fumbles.

CB Vernon Hargreaves

Hargreaves has had a tough time in recent weeks defending the opposing team’s top receivers and that continued in London. Hargreaves is the Bucs number one corner, but he’s more of a number two, but the Bucs don’t have any better options. He continuously gets beat on plays both down the field and over the middle, which is why D.J. Moore and Curtis Samuel combined for 143 receiving yards and a touchdown.

The Offensive Line

I know we normally single out an individual, but the whole offensive line deserves to be on this list. It was going to be an uphill battle with Demar Dotson and Alex Cappa out, but the entire line was dominated from beginning to end. Jameis Winston was sacked six times in the first half, and that’s not a typo. Some of it was certainly on Winston, but the offensive line did not help him out at all. They looked overmatched through the whole game. Even Ali Marpet, the Bucs best offensive lineman, gave up a sack to Gerald McCoy and had a holding penalty. It was a bad, bad day for the Bucs offensive line on a day where they were already behind the eight-ball with two starters out.The Bucs allowed seven sacks in the game, and while they were better in the second half, it didn’t stop the Panthers from creating pressure and causing issues for Wilson.

WR Bobo Wilson

Wilson has been a non factor in the punt return game for the entire season and the only effect he had in this game benefitted the Panthers. Wilson muffed two punts in a row, including one that was recovered by Carolina that eventually led to a touchdown that put the Bucs too far out of reach. When actually catching the punt, Wilson failed to make any significant returns despite having room to run, and even went for a negative gain on another one. Wilson’s second muffed punt essentially cost the Bucs game, and it may have cost him his punt return role.

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76 COMMENTS

  1. Winston, VH bust, all first round picks by Licht. This team needs to move on. Licht, and his #1 pick in the first round Winston have got to go. I don’t care who the coach is. Licht cannot build a winner, and Jameis is not a franchise QB, never will be. It’s Mr. Obvious, obvious now. Let him play out the rest of the year, and we should be in good shape to let our new GM pick his new QB of the future. We need to move on from these two.

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    • you are soo right and about to get killed on this site.

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    • Here is the list of longest tenured most successful QB’s
      In The HISTORY of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

      This is thru only the 2018 season so I will Update Jameis’s #’s thru the first 6 games this year… +32 in TD’s to INT

      He has better numbers than Troy Aikman did at this point in his career or Matthew Stafford.

      Jamies Winston – 1,314 – 2142 – 61.4% – 16,399 – 100 – 68

      https://mobile.twitter.com/Papi_Golf/status/1183921897135923201/photo/1

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  2. I know we want to throw Winston under the bus for this one…and he definitely deserves it, but….he did hit Evans (TWICE) in the hands on long bomb, game changing throws that Evans dropped both times. And, he did hit Howard (TWICE) in the hands on key passes for first down yardage they Howard dropped both times.

    And certainly our line and our running game were none existent.

    So, yes Winston under the bus, but he didn’t exactly get a lot of help from his friends when he needed a hand back up.

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    • Yes, he also hit the Panthers defenders in the hands 3-4 times that were dropped by panthers and not counted as Ints.
      It was much worse than the score today.

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      • The “ASS” part of your name is On the Money!

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  3. Jameis is such a roller coaster, how, in your 5th year as an NFL QB, not be ready and look lost. There are 2nd, 3rd and Rookie QB who don’t look this bad!! I don’t understand how a 5th year QB can look so awful.

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    • Really bad OL his entire tenure with the Bucs. 3 HC, 4 OCs. A GM that won’t build him a solid OL.

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    • He looks like a TE going in after your 1st, 2nd, and 3rd string QB go down.

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    • Put them behind this Offensive Line with This Running Game and This Defense and get back to me…

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  4. Jameis Winston 20.1 Million dollars LOL LOL LOL LOL
    The Great Brucie Quarterback Wisper LOL
    Mean Game Face of Todd Bowles LOL
    The brilliant Brian Leftwich LOL
    Stars aligned LOL
    37 points depending on outcomes of Redskins and Miami could lead Bucs to the last place in defence.
    55.6% 400 Yards 1 TD 5 INT’s 3 Fumbles 7 sacks 46.8 QB rating taking into fact Panthers let them have 175 yards to run time down by soft defense last quarter!
    2 wins 4 losses in 6 Games
    Season Over 10/13/2019
    Are they going to pay JPP 9 million to help get the 3rd pick in the draft instead of the 1st or 2nd pick?
    What do the Fredster and Chef have to say? how about spitball and sappattack
    They wanted to know why Buc Ass Bob was so negative this offseason.

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    • Buc- “ASS” – BOB?
      LMAO!!

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  5. This was my list exactly! VH3 had another miserable game. The entire OL played their worst game of the year. Winston showed he is a turnover waiting to happen when there is pressure from the defense. Bobo Wilson has done nothing as a punt returner all season and is a below average WR. I also think Byron Leftwich deserves some criticism for the play calling. Lots of deep routes and 5 step drops did not help our struggling OL at all. I think the entire defense knew the first play of the game would be a pass to Evans after 0 catches last week. Maybe use him as a decoy on the first play instead?

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  6. Move on next week with Ryan Griffith. Winston is a first round bust. We don’t want to resign him and can’t trade him so cut him and Hargreaves.
    Winston is the same person they drafted. A turnover prone bad decision maker. He might be a capable backup……maybe.

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    • Don’t cut Winston, because we can’t get a Compensatory Pick for him if he signs somewhere else during Free Agency. I would find some reason to throw him on IR for the rest of the season before I’d cut him.

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    • I agree we need to play Ryan Griffith, first I think it will be a step up, second we need to see what we have in a regular season type of game. Do we need one QB or two next year. I do think we will see Ryan is a decent backup. This is definitely the last year Winston will be a starter in the NFL, someone might try him as a backup but I would not be surprised if this is his last year in the NFL.

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  7. Add Mike Evans to this list. Where was his ‘wanna’? The CB pushed right through him on the first play. He dropped a perfect long ball that could have led to a score. And then not paying attention on the last INT. Not giving Jameis a pass, but where was Mike today?

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    • Mike Evans doesn’t always compete for the ball. He has had numerous drops in key situations, this year and in the past. He seems to lack the mental toughness and focus at times to be an elite WR. I think he is over-rated. Chris Godwin is making a case to be considered our #1 WR.

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    • hes finally realising that desean jackson was right about winston

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      • Don’t blame Jameis for Evans not playing out. Jameis put the ball right in his hands on the deep ball end of first half and threw it right at him end of the game – where was Evans??? Saints DBs shut him out last week and Panthers out hustled him to the ball today. That’s not on Winston.

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      • REALLY AND WHERE IS THAT LITTLE QUEEN DIVA DESEAN JACKSON BEEN LATELY?
        BOTH HE AND EVANS ARE CUT FROM THE SAME CLOTH.

        SELFISH DIVA CRYBABY WHINERS.

        AS SOON AS I HEARD EVANS LITTLE FRAGILE EGO GOT HURT BECAUSE HE GOT PUNKED AND SHUT OUT WITH 0 CATCHES THE GAME BEFORE IN NEW ORLEANS.

        I KNEW THE BUCS WHERE GOING TO FORCE THE FOOTBALL TO HIM WHICH LEADS TO PICKS!

        IF’S IT NOT A JUMP BALL.
        EVANS AIN’T YOUR RECIEVER.

        GIVE ME GUYS LIKE GOODWIN ALL DAY EVERY DAY OVER EVANS AND DJAX WHO DON’T FIGHT FOR THE BALL WHEN THEIR QB THROWS IT TO THEM!

        THEY BOTH QUIT ON ROUTES…

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    • I saw exactly the same thing! In my opinion two of the ints were on Evans and one was because his arm was hit as he threw. Evans was not physical in that game as he usually is nor was he in the Saints game. I was wondering if he was sick as he didn’t fight for the ball.

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  8. Some team might give 1-2 million off his 20.1 and a 5-6 round pick to use as a backup, the more they play him the worse it will get
    and Bucs will get nothing for him

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  9. Oh, and as I said in an earlier post – add Byron to this list – just awful.

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  10. No mention of pass rush/front 7?? Kyle Allen had all damn day to throw, the entire game.

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    • No doubt we need 6 man blitzes because that’s the only thing that help with our secondary. Lineman can’t do it for them. Our safeties which aren’t all that great have to make the plays.

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  11. We need to bench Winston. I am starting to think that any backup in the nfl could outplay him.

    The Bucs have the best receiving corps in the league. Any average QB would win with our team.
    We should draft a QB next year. Time to move on.

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  12. Winston aside let’s just say Fredster, CG and spitball is correct and it is not Winston fault which I do not believe myself I think he is bust but for argument’s sake give Winston the pass.
    What team management in their right sane mind after last years team does nothing to fix the offense line
    my son’s little league coach understand the importance of the O line.
    What management goes out and hires the OC and DC from last-place teams and expects them to be better here!
    It is mind-boggling to try to understand the moves from this management.

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    • Buc ass where did i say it wasnt winstons fault? Please quote me in my post. Instead, as usual ,you make shit up to hear yourself blurb.

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      • CG I have been going back and forth with you for 2 years, I have called Winston a bust going on 2 years and you have defended him every time.

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        • I have and this season, he has deserved it up until this game. Lets say we so jettison jameis, whats you plan exactly? Draft a kid, out him behind a terrible offensove line and a crappy defense? Go ahead, and watch him suffer though all kinds of growing pains. Theres no defending jameis’ play today, and i haven’t. Just look around the league at the young qbs struggling right now, goff ,mayfield, prescott. I love how you think its an easy fix. But were not going to get into how wrong you usually are.

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  13. I saw something today I have never seen before when watching the game from small TV at Restaraunt at distance I noticed the entire defence line being blown back as a whole. It looked like the opposite shift of momentum. It looked like the defense line was in pass protection. every single lineman being shoved backwards at same time
    I was shocked.

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  14. Evans is being paid 20 million and 42 receivers in NFL have more yards than him, he probably has given up and wants to be traded to team that can go to a playoff game so he is coasting.
    He is not going to risk injury for this team any more.

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    • Evan’s certainly dropped catches today he should of made. At the same time Evans has 4.5 speeds and I count the times on one hand he’s been hit on the run. Yes I’m sure that’s likely an overstatement but not that big of one.

      I mean 4.5 speed isn’t a burner but in no world is it possession receiver speed either.

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  15. Trade rumors circling OJ? Let’s get rid of Jamies instead! I made a choice this morning- keep watching the game after a long shift OR keep my blood pressure down, not cry, and rest.. 5 INTs is just as rare as throwing 5 TDs. Even for Winston, but he went there.. Kid has got to go, as long as we have rollercoaster Winston, we will never be be in the playoffs.

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  16. I have a good wife guys. She encourages me to get snockered during the Bucs game, refills my libations, And makes sure I do not drive afterwards. And after almost..immediately following every game (a Lost), she plays Pink Floyds, Comfortably Numb loudlythru our speakers as our Buc flag waives proudly outside. Don’t you guys wish you had a darling like I got? Opps..carefully honey with my..cheap scotch!

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    • Not enough info to be truthful. See in my life I’ve done one fat chick, and one ugly chick, all the rest most guys would say I would hit that, sober. I use to swing so I’ve never really counted, but I can say in all honestly the number is will over 20 and likely under 100.

      I don’t base getting drink for me as that big of deal. I would be more focused on other things, myself. There is word wisdom from a shallow guy like me if you read between lines.

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      • Like what? Crying when our Bucs lose?

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  17. Most disappointing to me is the fact that we will now need to be looking for another “franchise” qb going on for how many years now? This whole team is a damn mess.

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  18. I was hoping Winston would be different this year but as early as last year I was skeptical franchising him. New coaching new hope… Winston reminds me of a cross between Josh Freeman and Vinny Testaverde. A turnover machine with a good arm and the First round QB that will be the franchise for many years to come. Winston simply has never become a man. He is still a boy playing a man’s game. QB with the “it” factor..right Scott? With all that, my MOST disappointed goes much further than the stats, turnovers, etc. The most disappointed player on a deeper level is EVANS. He was quitting on his routes! It’s going to get really interesting here shortly. I have a strong suspicion Bruce will be making a strong actionable statement shortly..

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  19. Thank God my other half and I made a vacation out of this.. It was nice meeting all of the UK Buc fans and the folks that made the pilgrimage from Tampa. Not even gonna discuss the shxt show at Tottenham this afternoon. Admirality was even a great time even tho I missed Mark and Scott. Was really sad to see Sapp being a complete ass to the UK Buc fans. Watched him shun a guy with his 2 kids that asked for a picture, smh. Simeon Rice, the complete opposite. Totally embraced all of the Buc Fans. Oh well, off to Amsterdam in 3 days…

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    • Have a great time in Mother England with your family dude. There’s lots to see and do. ENJOY!

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      • Thanks man, will do! 3 days left here then off to Amsterdam…after that a week in France. Was determined to not let my Bucs define our vaycay

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  20. I don’t respond to dipshits that are trolls and constantly wrong about pretty much everything. Lol.

    I never said Winston was going to make it or be franchise QB. What I’ve said and I still stand by it is how do you know if you are always dead last defense, no run game, and run for life? You think another QB can do better on this current team? Your smoking crack.

    I saw 4 games This year where Winston had decent run game and protection and horrible defense still and he played well. Today was horrible. Not sure why certain asshole trolls only talk about him though when the whole team was bad. Evans was his worst two games last week and today. O line is a joke and the secondary is a joke.

    If your so smart who was available to coach and be defensive coordinator that the Bucs should have hired instead of Arians and Bowles? Or do you just talk your stupid shit and criticize every move?

    Certain Suck-ass_clowns just shit alL over every single thing, coach and person then when Bucs and Winston have a bad game you Circle back to how right you are and it’s all Winston. Your stupid ass act is really old.

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  21. DBuc 63 I agree it’s head scratching Evans two weeks in row playing like shit. Either he’s hurt or something else going on. Either way the result is shit. Lol. He looks lazy to me too.

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  22. Two interceptions by Winston was his fault but when you say the line played bad then you will have bad play by your QB.The O-line was horrible..if Cappa and Dotson played I really think we would have won this game.Im sorry but Winston play didn’t loose this game it was the O line.Licht passed on Oline in the second round.

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  23. You are 2-4! What would be the reasons to NOT try ur backup QB as the starter for next game? This team is losing confidence in Jameis. You can see it on their faces. I’ll tell u why. If they sit Jameis and Grif plays well/better than Jameis then they have a QB controversy on their hands. That’s why! The problem with this thinking is that Jameis no longer gives the Bucs the best chance at winning. I almost guarantee you that Griff would/could outperform Jameis. I just wonder if we will ever get the chance to see it?

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    • I like how you posters think griff is the answer. I hope he gets a chance just to show you why 3 coaching regimes kept him as a backup. You all remind me of the glennon mob, hows he doing by the way?

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  24. Sacked 12 times in 2 weeks..really??

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  25. Gotta add Bruce to this list.

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  26. So are all the beat writers Homers for Winston who mostly picked the Bucs to win again going to wake up and smell the coffee now?

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  27. The O-line didn’t disappoint, we already knew they would be a disaster. VH3 didn’t disappoint, we already knew he is a CB2 who gets picked on. After Winston, most disappointing has to be Evans. He dropped a certain TD, dropped another big play catch, and deserves blame for at least one of Winston’s INTs. He is giving up on routes, not fighting for balls, can’t get YAC, and has bricks for hands. Time to trade him, anoint RodGod as the new #1 WR, and start over. This franchise is a mess

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  28. The whole team was a dumpster fire today! Once again, they do not believe they can win – so they don’t. The Bucs have talented players, but the losing mindset is still prevalent in Tampa Bay. No confidence. No swagger. No joy. No winning!

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  29. How many of those 12 sacks was the OLines fault versus how many were because he constantly holds on to the ball too long?

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  30. It’s not that we want Griff to play it’s because Jameis sucks! That’s why! What do u say to those players on team who can’t reach incentives on their contracts because Jameis can’t get them the ball? Just be patient? 5 years is long enough! Jameis is not the Buc’s starting QB of the future! We cut Vinny. We cut Dilfer. What makes you think the same thing should not happen to Jameis?

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    • Who exactly isnt hitting their accelerants? Because mike and godwin are doing just fine. If howard isnt getting the ball that’s on the coaching staff. You have jameis the 5th year option and 20 mill. Hes not sirting this year unless he gets hurt, you all need to get that through your head.

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  31. Positives and negatives this week (had to look hard for any positives):

    Positives
    1) Run defense was very good yet again. Christian McCaffrey scored twice but otherwise was quiet, only mustering 31 yards on 22 cares. Overall they ran for less than 60 yards.
    2) Both Brate and Howard showed up to play. Brate had a nice TD pass and Howard had a couple of big catches and nice blocking.
    3) Matt Gay was good again, making his field goal from 54 yards away. So far so good with this kicker, it seems the third time is the charm for Licht – he finally solved this problem.

    Negatives
    1) Where to start? Winston. He self-destructed today. Even Bruce Arians expressed frustration in the post game interview. “Throw the damn ball away,” he said. “He has a habit of being Superman and that’s been a problem in the past. (It’s) trying to make something out of nothing and its just a matter of knowing when to quit on a play.” I think time is running out on Winston, and even Arians knows it. He keeps trying to make plays when there is none, and it resulted in 5 interceptions, two fumbles, and a ghastly afternoon. it is telling that even though they did not pull Winston, everyone saw Ryan Griffin throwing passes on the sideline after the 3rd INT and although he was not put in the game, you know Arians is not going to put up with this kind of play of his $20 million QB much longer. Pretty soon the sun will set on Winston’s career in Tampa, if it hasn’t already with this repeat performance.
    2) The pass defense was horrible yet again. As I wrote previously it won’t stop anyone this year. Even Devon White was missing plays, which Arians blew off as rookie mistakes. I hope he is right and he gets better, the team needs that to happen.
    3) Bobo Wilson fumbles on punts. Besides Winston’s terrible play, Wilson comes in a close second for awful play. Fumbling punts and more than one is inexcusable. However in the case of Bobo, the team will pull him from that duty faster than Winston from QB. He will be gone if he keeps this up much longer.
    4) Vernon Hargraves is not developing as he needs to. It won’t be long before he just becomes another busted pick of Licht.

    Overall, pretty much the season is over after today’s loss. They are 1-2 in the division, 2-4 overall. My hope of 8-8 is fading with the play of Winston today. I hope they can beat 5-11 this year and not do worse. Next up is Winston vs Mariotta, another failed starting QB of that same draft. If Mariotta outplays Winston, that will be the final nail in his coffin as we all know what the team will be drafting first next year, if we don’t already.

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  32. At 185 points allowed Bucs have allowed more points than every other team in NFL, Bucs passed Redskins 167 and Dolphins 180, It official there is no team that allowed more points scored on them more than todd Bowles 3-4.
    Dead last place!!!
    How is that Clown Bowles game face working out for Bucs ????
    Hire a coach who ran the worst defence in the league at Jets and make him the Defense Coordinator
    and who is surprized Bucs are last in Defense ????

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  33. With Rumors of trades for OJ Howard, it really felt like this was going to be a horrible week before it even began. This is the Team where TEs come to die. And QBs and Corners and Safeties. And if our team doesn’t kill your career, we’ll let you leave in Free Agency, or you’ll end up on IR before you get a chance to become all you can be. I am so tired of checking Mock Drafts in October. And reaching for players we either don’t need or can’t play. This is just a really bad organization. And Coaching is not going to change it. We do not have enough talented players. This is a management problem.

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  34. But at least we have a good Kicker and Punter. We may not have an offensive lineman worth anything or an overrated Defense, overrated Offense with a QB who is destined to be a back up on a bad team, but Gay can kick 50-yard kicks all day.

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  35. In the press conference Bruce didn’t blame Winston for the first interception.Said Evans should have came back for the ball..Hmmm

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    • But he also said a number of things condemning Winston this time, which was new. “Throw the damn ball away,” he said. “He has a habit of being Superman and that’s been a problem in the past. (It’s) trying to make something out of nothing and its just a matter of knowing when to quit on a play.”

      It was not all sun and roses this time – I think Arians realizes now too that Winston is not learning and progressing, and unless that changes now Winston’s time is done in Tampa.

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  36. Yep; could have named several others too!

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  37. This loss goes back to the draft. We looked like an offense that hasn’t spent many high draft picks on it’s offensive line. Combine that with a QB has zero pocket presence and you get 6 TO’s. I think that Arians is a great coach but its time to move on from Winston. He just doesn’t have what it takes to be a playoff caliber QB. He’s not the worst QB in the league but this team has a ceiling of 9 wins with him at the helm as he’s too inconsistent for anything better. I’ve been saying Licht should be let go for years and have been booed on this website by people who have cognitive dissonance. Keep Arians but move in a different direction at QB. There are better options coming out of college next year. I wish Winston would have worked out but its not going to get better. Winston peaked in year 2.

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  38. Winston had a bad game, no doubt, but he never gave up. However the OL was disgusting and no QB will do well. He played v well in 4 games and they went 2-2 because Arians thought a penalty would help a kicker against the Giants – a game Jameis resurrected the win.

    Mike Evans is Mr Softy however. He’s been soft since day one. He’s is a good receiver, but he is weak going to the ball, whines alot and is always looking for a flag. He let 2 INT’s today, dropped a bomb in full stride right off his hands and arms and dropped others not going to the ball. Trade him to a team that’s making a playoff run and needs him for a #1 plus.

    NOJ Howard is a complete bust and if they can trade him for a #2 take it ASAP.

    Use the above $ saved and picks trade up and get OL men that can give pass protection and get the running game going.

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  39. Coaching staff sure didn’t help Winston any with the mid to deep route trees they were calling. When it became apparent after the fifth or sixth sack it was way to late. You could se the LBs dropping deep on every passing situation with no one running a short route.
    Thank the NFL schedule makers as well.
    This team played exactly like they were playing on the road for the third week in a row which they were.
    And I don’t know why Mike Evans isn’t on this list.
    He may have had a big numbers game, but he dropped two long passes, one of which he would have definitely scored when the Bucs needed a big play.

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  40. 1.) Bust Licht, for chronic neglect of the OL.

    Winston was terrible but if you watched the line carefully in the first half Webster was absolutely horrific. He was so overmatched that he would immediately move backwards 5 yards every snap, making it easy for the DE to run up to him then sling him out of the way to get to Winston. It was obvious Winston realized this and started bailing before the pocket even collapsed.

    As a statement I’d cut Wells tomorrow except we have so little talent and depth on OL we can’t.

    2). Winston.
    5 INTs and 2 fumbles. After last week’s 3 INTs (yes two were called back but he completed those passes to the defenders, different from when defender drops pass) and 1 fumble.

    Also for those who flamed me for harping on his poor ball placement, he put on a clinic in that regard today. Not just on interceptions but also completions, the ball placement was terrible all day making the receivers twist their bodies or reach out to try and grab the errant balls. Will never be elite QB throwing passes that way and has shown zero improvement on that metric over five yrs.

    Yet what scares me the most with him is the blank stare after a bad play, betraying an inability to process what is happening. I’ve seen that look way too many times.

    3). Evans for giving up on deep routes and dropping passes.

    4). VHIII for just not being good enough to be a starter.

    5.) SR. For years of BS’ing his audience, parroting the company line and spinning things like his orange hero does in order to obscure the truth.

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    • I think Arians was more accurate about Winston. He said (honestly) among other things, he does not know when to give up on a play – and he is not improving at that. Since he obviously cannot learn that part of the game, he is not going to make it as a starting QB anywhere. He just is not football smart enough to play the game at the NFL level. This year is proving it beyond a doubt. Here is what Arians said:

      “Throw the damn ball away,” he said. “He has a habit of being Superman and that’s been a problem in the past. (It’s) trying to make something out of nothing and its just a matter of knowing when to quit on a play.”

      We will see if Arians acts and yanks him if this happens again and gives Griffin a shot. Or if he has decided Winston or bust this year, and if it is bust, they draft another QB next Spring. Those are the two options open to Arians, and what he does will tell us which option he takes.

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  41. Sorry should both be Wells not Webster

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  42. Bucassbob painted McCoy as a softie who was a cancer and washed up due to his age. However McCoy playing as a DE overpowered our best OLineman and sacked Jameis numerous times today. Bucassbob was dead wrong on his projection. It was obvious that the Panthers were targeting Vernon Hargreaves who is too slow to keep up with Samuel. Hargreaves should only be playing the slot. Dean should have been on Samuel and Davis should have had the other WR (until Bunting develops into a starter). Playing Zone was the disaster. We should have been jamming the receivers and playing them close. I would have preferred for us to have set Jameis down when he was overthrowing passes due to his usual Adrenalin rush and given our backup a chance to play til Jameis settled down and got his head on straight. However, no QB playing behind our OL today could have won the game. It was clear that Whatford and Wells were not anywhere near what we needed. Moreover, there is something wrong with O.J. Howard that has been going on for a number of games. He is trying to catch passes extending only one arm when he should be putting up both hands and high pointing passes. It is as if he has a badly hurt arm. If that is the case he should have been replaced by Auclair. Brate was playing really well and should have been used more often. It was also clear on long passes that Evans wasn’t tracking the ball coming his way which was not like him. He was also slowing down when he had good separation. A time out should have been called and BA should have been holding him accountable right then. It is much tougher for our returner to catch kicks by left footed kickers. Our Special Team Coach should have known about that in advance and had him practicing catching punts from a left footed kicker. BA knew this terrible schedule by the NFL was unfair to us and this problem today proved it. I saw numerous Panthers putting their hands in our face
    masks today without penalties but we got called for it. Shake it off and get ready for the next game.

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    • Overpowering the Bucs best O-lineman is not a real accomplishment in my estimation. By the way who is the Bucs best O-lineman? Our best O-lineman would have been the pick we used to pick OJ Howard. Licht is an idiot. I have no trust in his judgement.

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  43. I don’t know if we should call him Boo Boo Wilson or just Muff diver !!!

    Jameis will never learn to protect the ball. He tries too hard and sometimes it’s worse than not trying at all.

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  44. I thought the main problem this game – you know, other than the secondary’s inability to cover anyone – was the offensive line. Jameis was under fire all game and you could tell he was not comfortable in the pocket – even when there was one. They never come out and blame the O Line, but this one was on them. Yes, JW tried to do too much and doesn’t throw the ball away. But if he did throw it away each time (a) he was under pressure and (b) his receivers didn’t get open, then we would punt 20 times per game. Fix the damn O Line and JW would be fine at QB. When he has time, he’s pretty good.

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  45. Jason Licht (Lite) Must Go
    Let’s review the last 5 first round picks. First we should acknowledge that the NFL is a passing league and first round picks should be reserved for premium positions, which are those that affect the passing game. Those positions are QB, WR, LT, Pass Rusher and CB.
    2015 Jameis Winston. Erratic, does not see the whole field, loses more games than he wins. BUST
    2016 Vernon Hargreaves, Too small, too slow to be a shut-down corner yet another example of this teams inability to evaluate talent. BUST.
    2017 O.J. Howard, Tight end is not a premium position and not worthy of a first round pick. Erratic, poor route runner, unproductive. BUST.
    2018 Vita Vea, Nose tackle is not a premium position and not worthy of a first round pick. Second year and still trying to prove he can be a star. Bad Pick for first round.
    2019 Devin White Middle linebacker is not a premium position and when you compare to what we could have had it is a very bad pick.
    Five picks in a row and not a good one in the bunch. Is there a better definition of failure for an NFL GM? How about record?
    Since 2015 we are 27 and 43. Had enough?
    Just say Lite must go.

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  46. Licht and his merry men of draft pick duds lose again. Shocker. Licht has no plan and it shows.

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    • So much for a Licht coming on for that guy. He must have played too many games at Nebraska without a helmet.

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