Former quarterback-turned-analyst Dan Orlovsky joined ESPN’s Get Up on Monday, a morning talk show hosted by Mike Greenberg, and passionately criticized how Tampa Bay and the team’s offensive coaching staff is utilizing new quarterback Tom Brady following their three-point loss to Kansas City on Sunday.

Greenberg started the segment by posing a simple question.

“Are they running the right offense?”

“Absolutely not,” Orlovsky replied. “The Buccaneers offensively are the walking definition of insanity. Doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting results.”

Orlovsky reiterated his previously stated issue with Tampa Bay’s lack of pre-snap motion before emphasizing the Bucs’ inability to handle pressure from the Chiefs’ blitzes and their refusal to make play-action passing an emphasis, despite Brady’s success when throwing off play fakes.

“Right now Bruce Arians is wasting Tom Brady,” Orlovsky said. “He got served, on a silver platter, the greatest quarterback to ever play and all you had to do was use him the right way. And he’s completely failing Tom and I’ve got fear that it’s going to bury this football team this season.”

Brady was 4/5 for 83 yards and a touchdown on play-action against the Chiefs in Week 12.

See the full segment below.

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drdneast
1 month ago

“It’s still Brady’s fault, the election was rigged and I never cheated on any of my wifes,” Donnie Trumpy, who has to sit at the little table on Thanksgiving.

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Pete Wood
Reply to  drdneast
1 month ago

Pewter should be a politics free zone.

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cgmaster27
Reply to  drdneast
1 month ago

Hes not sitting at the little table. Hes sitting in your head rent free. But hey at least we have a guy who sniffs small children now right?

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drdneast
Reply to  cgmaster27
1 month ago

Spoken like a true cult member who like his Glorious Leader, projects his own thoughts and desires onto others.

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Hockey Duckie
Reply to  drdneast
1 month ago

Some people aren’t self aware… kinda like Arians’ offense right now.

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fredster
Reply to  drdneast
1 month ago

Dude Take your stupid political jokes elsewhere and shove them up your ass you political dick. See how happy you are when your taxes go up and this economy tanks under a senile idiot.

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BigSombrero
Reply to  fredster
1 month ago

Trump lost. Bigly time.

Now he’s just embarrassing our nation acting like a sore loser. Shocker.

Biden returns lawfulness, fairness, decency, and empathy to an office, nation and world that desperately hungers for it.

God bless America and Godspeed Mr. President Elect.

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Pete Wood
Reply to  BigSombrero
1 month ago

Why do any of you even care who other pewter fans voted for in the election?
Let’s talk some football, y’all.

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gcolerick
Reply to  BigSombrero
1 month ago

Don’t forget senility.

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BigSombrero
Reply to  gcolerick
1 month ago

Lol. He’s 4 years older than Trump. It’s actually a HUGE difference when you consider the maturity level!!

Trump acts like a petulant child who didn’t get his way and is going to scream in the middle of the department store until mommy buys him the election.

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Gatorbait36
Reply to  BigSombrero
1 month ago

I’ve been reading your drivel for literally years. Based on the above, you voted solely on your hurt feelings…. Here’s what I want out of my leadership… 1) great economy – Trump has improved the economy by leaps and bounds over Obama. We’ve also shown economic growth in the last two months even with the “evil specter of COVID”. 2) good foreign policy – I haven’t heard a peep from any of those organizations we heard so much from prior. 3) tax reductions – taxes for the middle class are far too high. Trump lowered them. Maybe if you thought… Read more »

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drdneast
Reply to  BigSombrero
1 month ago

Well Big Sombrero, we do see eye to eye on some things.

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Dave
Reply to  BigSombrero
1 month ago

And this is the take that continues to amaze me. I couldn’t care less if you don’t like Trump, think what you want and support what you want. But to say that Biden returns “fairness and decency” is just laughably stupid. Biden doesn’t become a good, decent person just because you don’t like Trump. That’s not how reality works. Biden is a corrupt fool, a man who many women have, credibly, accused of sexual assault, a man who has been caught lying more than anyone can count, a man with MANY racist comments on his record. Kamala Harris is on… Read more »

BigSombrero
Reply to  Dave
1 month ago

Yes, the republicans, poll workers, media, voting machine company, (dead) Hugo Chavez, sharpie pens, post office, and multiple state election commissions have all conspired with the democrats to vote Trump out, but keep the senate and increase the seats held in the house.

Yep. That’s what happened.

On January 21st, charges will be filed against Trump for tax fraud, bank fraud, and tax evasion.

You can’t do anything about that, you imbecile.

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Dave
Reply to  BigSombrero
1 month ago

Except we both know none of that is going to happen, just as we both know that you don’t really believe Biden is a decent human being, or that he won the election. You’ll say it though, because you’re a good little trained parrot. Trump won in a landslide, your seething rage is a direct result of knowing this is true. You so badly wanted to believe Anderson Cooper when he told you that you were the majority, you so badly wanted to believe you were part of the “cool kids”. In the end it was revealed that America believed… Read more »

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BigSombrero
Reply to  Dave
1 month ago

Trump won on a landslide?

Oh no. You’re one of them. A Trumptard.

Take the tin foil hat off. It’s starting to cut off circulation.

Your hero will still be on Twitter bilking his fools for cash, so your love affair can go on. Make checks payable to Donald J. Trump.

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Gatorbait36
Reply to  Dave
1 month ago

Best. Post. Ever!

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drdneast
Reply to  fredster
1 month ago

For an old senile guy he sure outsmarted you slow witted morons by stealing the elections. What does that say about you clowns. And look at the yard gnome Trumpy hired to sue all of the states. I bet he felt right at home in front of the landscaping business and the porno store. LMAO.

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Pete Wood
1 month ago

I think that saying we are wasting Brady is a bit harsh. It’s not like the Bucs are benching him. Last I checked, Brady has some pretty good stats.
Could they use him better? Absolutely.
Should Byron Leftwich call in sick the next few games? You bet.

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RW
RW
Reply to  Pete Wood
1 month ago

The whole offense would be better with more motion, more creative play calling , more play action and less long shots down the field.
You throw when they aren’t expecting it like the 4th and 2 TD pass to Evans.

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BigSombrero
Reply to  RW
1 month ago

Pre snap motion???

Antonio Brown doesn’t even
know which routes to run yet! Mike and Tom aren’t on the same page with the WR option routes. Same for Godwin.

Now you want Brady to motion people?? You want to put MORE responsibility on his plate??

Lol. Not happening folks.

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RW
RW
Reply to  BigSombrero
1 month ago

Godwin and Gronk know where to go on a “hot ” route. Evans not so much

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BigSombrero
Reply to  RW
1 month ago

Funny how Evans had over 1000 yards in his first 6 seasons with McCown, Winston, and Fitzmagic as his QB.

All of a sudden, Evans is the problem?

Listen, Brady is great. He’s arguably the GOAT. He just isn’t as good as those other guys at using likely HOF weapon at WR Mike Evans.

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RW
RW
Reply to  BigSombrero
1 month ago

My point was they Evans, while very gifted athletically, lacks football smarts like knowing what route to run when the QB is getting blitzed.
And yes he has those great seasons; on a losing team. And he has benefitted from getting lots of targets while catching them at a below league average rate. this year he is not even in the top 125 in catch rate in the league.

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Vinsane38
Reply to  RW
1 month ago

May I add that Evans can be less aware and skilled of route adjustments than two of the best tacticians in the game (Brown, Godwin, add in Allen and Theilen), but still be OK at it? I have studied a lot of WR and Evans is as gifted as the top tier, he produced with “less than optimal” QB because of this. Brady ball makes the hot adjustments more necessary, and Evans has not adapted as quickly.

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Gatorbait36
Reply to  BigSombrero
1 month ago

Man….you are so lost. Go to the FSU message boards and talk about how your team runs away from competition screaming.

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Eddie
Reply to  Pete Wood
1 month ago

I am sure Leftwich is just doing what his boss Arian wants him to do

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MrFootball
1 month ago

I cannot disagree with Dan O. You would think that a great coach would put some mid range routes in for Brady. Everything cannot be a go route, while I like going long you have to attack every level of the D. Arians has ZERO excuses the front office gave him a dream team and he is barely above .500. That is hard to do with the talent on this team.

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drdneast
1 month ago

How many people have to say the same thing.

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Madman
1 month ago

Arians USED to be a good coach. Sums it up.

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RW
RW
Reply to  Madman
1 month ago

The difference between Arians and Andy Reed is that Reed takes what the defense gives him. Arians just does the same old thing. Yesterday with the Chiefs it was some long passes due to single coverage but last week it was a short passing game. The Chiefs “O” is very creative with lots of motion; the Bucs not so much!

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BigSombrero
Reply to  RW
1 month ago

Mahomes completed nearly every pass to a well covered Tyreek Hill a mile downfield, sometimes with a Safety helping.

Mahomes is a better QB than Brady at this point. No shame in admitting the truth.

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Naplesfan
Reply to  BigSombrero
1 month ago

Hill was just beating the pants off Stewart, just too fast and too skilled to cover with just one guy. By the second half, Bowles figured out how to better cover him with safety help. But the thing is. that’s what game tape is supposed to reveal to you before the game is played.. The combination of Mahomes and Reid is better than the combination of Brady and Arians … and the likely weak link in the Buc combo is NOT TB-12. And by the way, TB-12 isn’t the Defensive Coordinator for the Bucs, in case you didn’t know that.… Read more »

BigSombrero
Reply to  Naplesfan
1 month ago

Lol. MJ Stewart was cut in camp.

Tom Brady had missed every pass over 20 yards for 5 games until he FINALLY hit one with Gronk. There were open players that he just flat missed.

Mahomes vs a much better defense in Tampa? Not so much.

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drdneast
Reply to  BigSombrero
1 month ago

Of course I have to disagree. Agaisnt Carolina, yes. But against the Rams every deep pass he threw the the receiver was well covered like Godwin was but put the effort in to leap for the ball unlike Brown. Evans dropped a deep ball because he lost it vs. the Chiefs.

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RW
RW
Reply to  BigSombrero
1 month ago

Well Evans dropped a perfect 40 yard pass 2nd play of the game. Brady completed long passes to Evans, Gronk twice and Godwin yesterday.
Much better defense in Tampa than the Chiefs? What are you smoking?

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BigSombrero
Reply to  RW
1 month ago

You think the Chiefs defense is a better defense that the Bucs defense? Bro…you’re crazy.

That Chiefs defense is middle of the pack, statistically. They can’t stop the run. They haven’t played anyone worth a shit besides Baltimore.

Bucs should have gashed the shit out of them, but can’t because they got a goat.

You think Evans dropped a perfect pass? Only perfect pass to Evans was on 4th and 2 and went for a TD. THAT was a perfect pass. That first one was slightly overthrown and out of the reach of Evans.

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RW
RW
Reply to  BigSombrero
1 month ago

Well covered? Nonsense! Name a play where there was a safety within 5 yards of Hill on his TD catches? You can’t because there wasn’t and none of those throws were contested by Davis either. Hill was wide open.

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BigSombrero
Reply to  RW
1 month ago

1st drive Hill was tackled as soon as he caught it. Ends in FG.
2nd drive punt.
3rd drive Hill caught it as Davis tried to tackle but missed. Winfield late to react but was in the frame. TD.
4th drive Hill caught it as Davis diving at his feet. Whitehead juked. TD.

Film don’t lie. I have attached it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXkAE3fsGjo

This is an execution problem. Not a scheme problem.

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RW
RW
Reply to  BigSombrero
1 month ago

Boy you make crap up. On Hill’s first catch he was 3-4 yards behind Bunting and got knocked out of bounds 15 yards later. 33 yard gain.
On the 75 yard TD catch he had 2 yards on Davis and when he caught it Winfield was about 7 yards off him.

I could go on but that is not tight coverage as you put it.

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BigSombrero
Reply to  RW
1 month ago

Make crap up???

Two yards away from him while 60 yards downfield. Yeah, you’re right, that’s the definition of WIDE OPEN!!

Listen RW. Game over. Bucs lost. KC is better. Brady didn’t do enough to keep the Bucs in the game in the first quarter. Period.

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MWD
MWD
Reply to  RW
1 month ago

RW- Bruce Arians play book is UP(A), LEFT(A), DOWN(A), RIGHT(A)- those are runs, passing attack is UP(B), LEFT(B), RIGHT(B), DOWN (B)

Sincerely- Tecmo

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RW
RW
1 month ago

Interesting how former Pro QB’s like Romo and Orlovsky disagree with the offensive philosophy/strategy of the Bucs while other guys who have never played keep crapping on Brady.
Brady is making mistakes trying to too much but overall is playing well. The system is letting him down. .

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BigSombrero
Reply to  RW
1 month ago

Dirk Koetter has a quote that goes something like this…NFL seasons are like rockets taking off, once they start, it’s very difficult to change direction.

This off-season, Brady said he had time to learn the offense. Brady said he loved the scheme. Brady said his arm felt great. Brady said these were the best weapons he’s had in years. Orlovsky agreed.

Now, Romo and Orlovsky are coming to Brady’s aid that the coaches need to run Josh McDaniels dink and dunk scheme?

Sorry, no take backs or do-overs.

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drdneast
Reply to  BigSombrero
1 month ago

No one is calling for a dink and dunk system, we would just like a little more mix in our offense. Put in some motion, shorten some of the routes up and when you get them creeping up, then go long. Also get Twinkle Toes off the field and put RoJo in on 80 percent of the snaps so when you run play action, the defense actually fears the running attack. We aren’t talking about planning the Normandy invasion here.

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RW
RW
Reply to  BigSombrero
1 month ago

Of course let’s just exaggerate everything to justify your silly takes. Brady can throw the long ball but you mix it in with runs and short passes to set up play action. Like the Chiefs do for example. Better that than just lining up in spread formation and chucking it 40 yards downfield.

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BigSombrero
Reply to  RW
1 month ago

What’s silly is that you don’t believe your lying eyes.

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Horse
1 month ago

duh.. most of us have seen this, but like most coaches, they are too stubborn to change in the late season timeframe. Always thinking the ship will right itself if we just execute better.

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BigSombrero
1 month ago

Change the scheme? You guys are crazy if you think that will happen! Especially at this point.

BA and any other head coach would never do that to accommodate one new player.

If you’re the GOAT, then throw accurately, know the down and distance, audible into better plays, and take responsibility.

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RW
RW
Reply to  BigSombrero
1 month ago

So if a team lines 6 guys up 40 yards downfield you still send guys on go routes and try to throw it over all the defenders? No, you change your scheme……. it’s called coaching!!!

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BigSombrero
Reply to  RW
1 month ago

Clearly you’ve never played organized sports. That aint happening at this stage bud. This ship has sailed. This offense is who the Bucs are. Love it or hate it.

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drdneast
Reply to  BigSombrero
1 month ago

LMAO. And that is exactly what Andy Reid did which is why he is at 10-1 and not 7-5 and he has a Super Bowl ring and BA doesn’t. Alex Smith was his QB until Mahomes got there and they sure enough ran a different scheme but Reid tweeked it and his OC Eric Beinemy calls a much smarter game plan than the big oaf we have as an OC.

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cptsora
1 month ago

So when the Bucs make the playoffs and go on a run will we still be wasting Brady?

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Naplesfan
Reply to  cptsora
1 month ago

Unless something changes, or someone changes, we will not be going on any playoff runs. We’re losing to all the quality teams we’re playing in the second half of the season … meaning our opponents have studied our game tape, made adjustments, and our coaches have not. They just keep repeating the same old, same old. That’s a recipe for one and done, if we even make the playoffs at all (we could easily lose our remaining games and finish 7-9. Including two losses to the Falcs.

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pokerpat12
1 month ago

I agree totally agree with both Orlovsky and Romo. Both of whom have pointed out our TOTAL lack of motion in our Vanilla offense. At New England They would have a receiver go in motion forcing the defense to commit. Then Tom would know whether it was man to man or zone and could audible accordingly. I’m exasperated by Arians total lack of vision. It may end up costing him his job!

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BigSombrero
Reply to  pokerpat12
1 month ago

This ain’t New England. McDaniels scheme won’t be implemented any time soon.

The QB Whisperer believes strongly in risk it no biscuit. He took the Cards all the way to the Conference Championship where Carolina flattened his team 49-15.

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drdneast
Reply to  pokerpat12
1 month ago

The one thing about Buc ownership is they have never been shy about firing coaches. Doing so won them a SB that the current one they had would have never done while he was here.

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bucballer
1 month ago

The bottom line is this offense is not designed to take advantage of those things that Brady has done year in and year out for 20 years to win his six SuperBowls. BL is not ready for prime time as a play caller. BA is far too old and stubborn to admit having him call plays has hindered this Offense and it’s ability to achieve some type of fluidity. Lastly, Brady has been off target on several of his throws. This is a fact. He is, clearly, feeling the pressure. He can’t do it alone and he can’t make chicken… Read more »

Naplesfan
1 month ago

I do tend to agree with Orlovsky that Arians and his coordinators are not taking advantage of either what they have – with Tom Brady – or what the defenses are giving them. It’s a contest of wills. When the Bucs signed TB-12, I assumed that our GM would have a heart to heart with Arians and his coordinators, that there would have to be some give and take, and it would not just be BA and his coordinators acting as if nothing had changed. Maybe Meathead had that talk and it didn’t sink in … or he did and… Read more »

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Spruce
1 month ago

This whole notion that Brady is some kind of unthinking drone that is suffering at the feet of an uncreative coach is getting tedious. For those that do not know Orlovski is a great commentator that does some of the best game play analysis but he has a blind spot and a grudge. Orlovski is very fond of Brady and gives him every benefit of the doubt and has some kind of grudge against Belichick, the Pats or all of the about. He made it clear in the negotiation that he thought Brady should move on and is now invested… Read more »

RW
RW
Reply to  Spruce
1 month ago

Did you listen to Romo on the broadcast? He said the same things Orlovsky said.

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Spruce
Reply to  RW
1 month ago

Making it sound like Orlovski and Rome were of like mind on this point is not a fair representation. It was Orlovski’s point and he beat Arians with a verbal club.Rome added nuance if anything but it was Orlovski wielding the club. Orlovski as a much traveled QB will always side with a QB. Tom Brady is no average QB. Arian’s wasn’t wild about getting Antonio Brown, Brady flipped the goat switch and all of a sudden they have Antonio Brown. As well as Gronk earlier on. That’s Brady. Now Orlovski is telling me Brady won’t put his foot down… Read more »

Spruce
1 month ago

It’s obvious Brady is not calling alerts switching plays as much nor motioning players either as often as he has in the past. The reason in part is you can’t expect a team to be the same as Brady was with the Pat’s. Precision is hard. You think Antonio Brown has a clue of his roll in more complex plays? And the whole Brady centric analysis of the Bucs every week is a little ridiculous as well. What is wrong with Brady. Who is responsible for Brady not being great. Why didn’t Brady win the game like he used to.… Read more »

BigSombrero
Reply to  Spruce
1 month ago

Two good takes here and in your previous post.

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Spruce
Reply to  BigSombrero
1 month ago

Arians clearly has his drawbacks. This nonsense about Brady being some kind of mindless drone this far into the season executing game plans he doesn’t believe in is ridiculous. One week it’s blaming Brady for decision making and poor execution, the next week Brady is the victim of Arians mishandling. They need a new feature. The Weekly Bullseye. Who this week will the darts be thrown at. But oh wait. The team that sucked is cruising to the playoffs and Brady has some pretty good stats. Every week if you fail a talking head somewhere is going to do a… Read more »

RW
RW
Reply to  Spruce
1 month ago

Yeah like why is the defense so inconsistent not only from game to game but from quarter to quarter as well.

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drdneast
Reply to  Spruce
1 month ago

I know he called two last night, one which resulted in an 8 yard gain and the other resulted in an INT because Evans didn’t know where he was supposed to go on a hot read. Also, it’s hard to call alerts and audibles when you don’t have motion and you don’t know if you are going to be throwing into man to man or zone until the ball is snapped. This is pure insanity.

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B T
1 month ago

Again Bucs were out-coached; this time on defense also. Our Dbs are average at best, so who thought leaving one to cover the fasted WR in football was a good idea? Offensive play calling and formations are terrible. Bucs should never have an empty backfield. That works best when there is threat of the Qb running. Everyone knows Brady is not going to run, so the D line tees off and the pass coverage is super tight because they do not have to watch the backfield. Brady and O work much better with a controlled passing game and lots of… Read more »

bucballer
1 month ago

A success running game is imperative for our Bucs! When we run the ball successfully it usually opens up the play action a little more and keeps the LBs honest! When u give up on the running game so early it’s just bum rush Brady at that point. They know we r passing because we fall behind so quickly early in the game. We should arrive for a more equitable run pass balance. This will allow Brady to excel in play action which is what he is most effective at.

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bucballer
1 month ago

Also, continually calling plays that require two or more of ur receivers to run go routes or posts that require 4-6 seconds to develop and having an offensive line that can only hold their blocks 3-4 seconds is a recipe for disaster

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Bucsfan1983
1 month ago

He’s right and so is Stephen A, Rex Ryan, and Rodney Harrison mentioned it on pregame with Dungy last night.

This can’t be about BA & Leftwich offense. It needs to be about Brady. We only have so long with him. Do what he is comfortable with.

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buddah
1 month ago

Frustration. Frustration. Frustration. Ask yourself, why were you expecting so much from this team, an offense that hadn’t taken a snap against any other team prior to their first game against New Orleans? Did you really think it was going to be that easy to bring in a new quarterback and face what is at this point the fifth toughest schedule in the NFL. Think again. Yes, we just lost to the team that won the Super Bowl last year and the team that lost in the Super Bowl the previous year. Both returned their starting quarterback. Of the teams… Read more »

PewterHeart
1 month ago

Its simple….play to your players strengths…adjust fire, if need be..this time off these men have some soul searching to do…this is one of the best teams EVER assembled (on paper), after this season I dont see CG coming back, nor any other 1yr signee…this no risk it no biscuit gig is outdated…i remember watching a documentary where Jon Gruden and the bucs traveled to philly and were beat in 02..Sapp, pissed off and all, looked at Gruden where he was adjusting the plays for the next time they met the eagles..that’s what orlovsky is talking about..

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buc run
1 month ago

Gruden would have this offense clicking. Gruden > Arians.

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