The PewterReport.com Roundtable features the opinions of the PR staff as it tackles a Tampa Bay Buccaneers-related topic each week.

This week’s topic: When will Jameis Winston start at QB again for the Bucs?

Scott Reynolds: When The FitzMagic Wears Off
This is actually a really tough topic because it requires looking into a crystal ball. How long will Ryan Fitzpatrick’s stellar play last? Will he get injured causing an immediate need for Jameis Winston to come in and play in relief? Because right now, DeSean Jackson is right – the Bucs shouldn’t rock the boat and take Fitzpatrick, who has the hot hand, out of the line up just because Winston’s three-game suspension ends on Tuesday after Tampa Bay’s Monday Night Football game against Pittsburgh. And Dirk Koetter will undoubtedly agree.

Bucs QB Ryan Fitzpatrick - Photo by: Mary Holt/PR

Bucs QB Ryan Fitzpatrick – Photo by: Mary Holt/PR

So when does Winston return? When Fitzpatrick’s magic wears off, and I think that means two straight losses – unless the losses are more the fault of Tampa Bay’s defense and Fitz is still playing well. With each win that Fitzpatrick helps commandeer, I think he builds a credit. Right now he’s got two credits in the Bucs bank. However, two losses to Pittsburgh and Chicago – as I originally predicted in my season preview – would trigger Winston’s return after the bye week in my opinion. Now if Fitzpatrick and the Bucs start the season 4-0 and then lose two games in a row after the bye week to Atlanta and Cleveland I think it would still be difficult to bench Fitzpatrick after a 4-2 start. However, I believe a 3-3 record with losses to the Falcons and Browns would trigger the return of Winston against the Bengals in Week 7.

Remember that the Bucs were 2-1 under Fitzpatrick last year in the three games he started for the injured Winston, yet Winston got his job back when his shoulder healed up enough for him to return to action. What makes putting Winston back in the starting lineup so tempting is that he had his best preseason since entering the league in 2015 and Tampa Bay desperately needs to evaluate his on-field performance before deciding whether to sign him to a long-term extension after his fifth-year option in 2019 or whether to place the franchise tag on him. As long as the Bucs stay above .500 and Fitzpatrick avoids back-to-back losses I think he remains in the lineup while Winston rides the pine.

Mark Cook: When The Offense Begins To Bog Down
Week 7 when he is starting for another team? I kid. Really. As much as I like what Fitzpatrick is doing now, this team can’t keep up the current pace. I mean, they just can’t. Defenses will always find a way to key on a weakness eventually, and slow down the Bucs offense. Then the chess match starts and we see how good this offensive staff really is.

So at what point does Winston get back under center? It really is impossible to say, but if Fitzpatrick and the Bucs are 3-0 a week from now, there is no way Tampa Bay hands the job back to Winston. That is a fast way to create a disaster in the locker room.

The Bucs are currently on pace to not only shatter franchise records, but also set NFL records. but as mentioned earlier, it can’t keep going for 16 straight weeks, can it? Fitzpatrick has had some of these hot streaks. Heck, most NFL quarterbacks have had some sort of two or three game stretch where they look unstoppable. But even the greats fall back to earth eventually. If Fitzpatrick were 25 and not 35 maybe you ride through the eventual – and inevitable – adversity that is coming.

Winston is the future. The Bucs have already committed over $20 million to Winston next season and still believe he can be the team’s first franchise quarterback. Delaying the inevitable in hopes a 35-year old journeyman quarterback can lead the team to the Super Bowl would set the team back in the long run. I am in no way advocating just handing the keys back to Winston when he comes back next week. That would be foolish to disrupt a magical start to the season. But Fitzpatrick is not the future and once this offense goes through a couple game stretch where they put up average numbers and perhaps drop a couple games, you have to let Winston show what he can do.

Trevor Sikkema: Will He?
Look, facts are facts. There are only three players in NFL history who have thrown for 400 yards and four touchdowns in back-to-back games, and there is only one player who has ever started a season with two 400-yard, four-touchdown performances.

And it ain’t Jameis Winston. It’s Ryan Fitzpatrick.

I’ll be fair to Winston and recognize that he was the highest rated passer in the preseason a month ago. But as we have certainly learned on many levels, preseason is not the regular season, and taking three weeks off likely didn’t help make the most of that momentum. Now, I’ll also say this, Winston did take three weeks off last season, the three games Fitzpatrick started when Winston was healing from his shoulder injury, and when he came back Winston seemed to be playing his best ball.

But where does the balance of “you don’t lose your starting job due to injury (or in this case a suspension)” and the act that taking the ball out of a hot hand find its middle ground.

If you ask me, there isn’t one; you play Fitzpatrick.

Just like it wouldn’t make sense for Dirk Koetter to mess up a good thing and take play calling away from Todd Monken, so should be the case with the starting quarterback position. I think that as long as the Bucs are above .500, you can’t take Fitzpatrick out. The only way you would take him out if they were still above .500 with him is if it was clear that they were winning in spite of him, but I don’t think they’ll be above .500 if not for him as a catalyst, so that’s why I came to that conclusion.

If that means Fitzpatrick starts the entire season, so be it. This team has been void of winning for so long that it would be foolish to risk it while it’s here. As long as they’re winning more than they’re losing, Winston should wait — even if the way it plays out makes him wait until next year.

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About the Author: Scott Reynolds

Scott Reynolds is in his 27th year of covering the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the vice president, publisher and senior Bucs beat writer for PewterReport.com. Author of the popular SR's Fab 5 column on Fridays, Reynolds oversees web development and forges marketing partnerships for PewterReport.com in addition to his editorial duties. A graduate of Kansas State University in 1995, Reynolds spent six years giving back to the community as the defensive coordinator/defensive line coach for his sons' Pop Warner team, the South Pasco Predators. Reynolds can be reached at: [email protected]
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e
3 years ago

Fitznow. Jameislater.

Freeman Strickland
Freeman Strickland
Reply to  e
3 years ago

There will be two weeks of practice after the Chicago game. The coaches and the players will get to see Fitz and Jameis working with the first string. Hopefully, it will be clear who should be starting.

BucWild02
BucWild02
Reply to  e
3 years ago

I agree e.
Here’s the thing: 30 of 41 for 388 yards and 3 touchdowns with no fumbles and no interceptions.
Those are Winston’s preseason numbers. Those look awfully familiar to what Fitz is putting up.
Watch Trevor’s breakdown here: https://www.pewterreport.com/cover-3-consistency-is-key-for-bucs-qb-surviving-winstons-suspension/2/
Here’s the thing 2: Coaches and front office people love that there is a question about who to start. That’s one more QB Chicago has to prepare for. It’s potentially one more QB teams after the bye have to prepare for.

wnb0395
wnb0395
Reply to  BucWild02
3 years ago

Bucwild, you know that teams don’t scheme and play high level defense in the preseason. Its always pretty vanilla, specially with its starters. Plus Winston was mainly playing against the opposing teams 2nd and third stringers. Like in the Tenn game, half the players Winston was playing against didn’t even make the Titans team and we was running pour first string WRs against them with Winston. Go back and look at the drives in the Tenn games. Look at who is making the tackles on the big passes to Evans, Jackson, Howard. Its Simms, Wallace, J Brown, Durdan, Spillane, Hurst,… Read more »

Buc 1976
Buc 1976
Reply to  e
3 years ago

100% AGREE

Brandonges
Brandonges
3 years ago

Winston gets to compete for the starting job next offseason

surferdudes
3 years ago

We can all agree Winston is still the future in Tampa Bay moving forward so I don’t see the need to rush putting him back in the line up. Winston never had an experienced vet to watch, and learn from coming into the league. He was handed the starting job with no real competition, and one can argue that was the wrong way to go. As we saw last year Winston learned from watching Fitz handle his business while out injured, and played his best ball coming back because of it. I think it’s better he keeps learning for awhile… Read more »

thegeebo
thegeebo
Reply to  surferdudes
3 years ago

We do not all agree that Winston is the future. I do not think we would be 2-0 with him at QB… I believe he would have made boneheaded mistakes, just like he does off the field. I really hope Winston is truly reformed off the field, and that he figures it out. But I cannot root for him in Tampa Bay anymore, just for the off-the-field reasons alone. Top that with inconsistent play and turnovers, and I don’t see any reason to invest in him. I would feel more confident in signing Fitzmagic to a 3-year deal, and drafting… Read more »

Buc-n-Philly Fan
Buc-n-Philly Fan
Reply to  thegeebo
3 years ago

I respect your opinion. I just totally disagree with it. For starters, Winston has the top 3 yardage amounts for his first two years in league history. The Team around him has not performed. The offensive line was downright offensve. The defense has been abysmal and there has been no running game. In addition, Monkin has not been calling the plays up until now. I think your perception of Winston off the field is exactly where it should be. He has put himself in questionable positions and that adds to his critical decision making skills but for his on the… Read more »

makski
makski
Reply to  Buc-n-Philly Fan
3 years ago

Let’s not all forget that last year in preseason, Fitz was getting outplayed by Griffin and had it not been for his injury, Fitz might not have even been on this team. Griffin seemed to have control of the offense and the 2nd QB spot. You have to admit that the offense has been humming no matter who the QB was in preseason. Winston actually was even outplaying Fitz in the preseason, but all 3 QB’s were playing extremely well. I believe the reason that Fitz is playing so well is that he has no pressure. He knew going in… Read more »

wnb0395
wnb0395
Reply to  makski
3 years ago

Winston out played Fitz because he was playing with our Starting Skill players ( Evans, Jackson, Godwin, Brate, Howard) while playing against back ups and players who aren’t even playing right now. Go look at the Tenn game. Go read the play by play on Espn stats. All the tackles on his WRs are all players who aren’t even playing right now. Read me blog to Bucwild. You will see the guys covering our starting WRs and TEs were all 2nd and 3rd stringers and 2/3 didn’t even make Tenn active roster and the ones that did aren’t starting. So… Read more »

Rut
Rut
Reply to  thegeebo
3 years ago

You want to sign a 35 year old QB to a 3 year deal?

tampaspicer
tampaspicer
Reply to  Rut
3 years ago

Hell no!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Michael Prayon
Michael Prayon
3 years ago

I’m glad we’re 2-0 and I am glad that Fitzpatrick is shining right now but Fitzpatricks history has shown that he will play like an ALL PRO QB for several game of the beginning of the season, be named the starter and then begin to decline. I keep telling people that the reason Fitzpatrick looks so good right now is because we have improved on the offensive line drastically, we have improved on defense, the playcalling is advanced and not a predictable offense that everyone would know what we’re doing. The Bucs are doing what they should have been doing… Read more »

Buc-n-Philly Fan
Buc-n-Philly Fan
Reply to  Michael Prayon
3 years ago

I agree whole heartedly with all of your points up until the timing of putting Winston back in. The harmony of the Team/Lockeroom is extremely important and unless Fitz struggles it would harm this Team to make a change before. Winston would still benefit by watching and learning and being prepared. I also think mentally you send a strong message regarding his off field behavior. You only have one chance to set the tone for expectations.

I love your passion!!

nybuccguy
nybuccguy
3 years ago

Start Jameis after the bye week.

nitey
nitey
3 years ago

First, I happen to agree in that you can’t take Fitz out while the offense is playing so well. But I also need to point out that a few years back Josh McCown had a six game stretch with the Bears that made him look like the next Rich Gannon too. I think at some point Jameis will get his job back this year, but clearly until the magic wears thin, you need to ride the magic train.

macabee
macabee
3 years ago

First let me say that I’m elated with the way the Bucs are playing now. And as long as Fitzpatrick is winning, I have no problem if he remains the starter. But when Buc fans start saying he should replace Jamies Winston or that Winston should be traded, I say Whoa! Slow your roll. There are some things you should know about Fitzmagic before you make that quantum leap. You see there are two Fitzpatricks – There is Fitzmagic and there is Fitztragic. He has a bipolar history. Fitz came into the NFL in 2005 (14th year) and has been… Read more »

Pete Wood
Pete Wood
Reply to  macabee
3 years ago

Well said. You are a wise fan.

cgmaster27
cgmaster27
Reply to  macabee
3 years ago

Well said Mac, couldnt agree more. You ride this hot streak until its inevitable end.

EastEndBoy
EastEndBoy
Reply to  macabee
3 years ago

True , but then again Winston has a history of bipolarness as well….the Winston that can lead the team to a TD in the crunch, and the Winston that throws as many completions to the other team as to our own.

Maybe Fitzmagic will fizzle out (I sure do love 79% completion percentage, 96 QBR, etc etc), ….but will we get TD-Winston or INT-Winston in his place?

Either way, we need to find a running back or it will be tough for any QB to keep this up….

macabee
macabee
Reply to  EastEndBoy
3 years ago

Sometimes you just never know. Do you? The Bucs could go 19-0. Or this could happen…..because it did!
https://www.sbnation.com/2016/9/25/13052032/ryan-fitzpatrick-interceptions-jets-chiefs

Pete Wood
Pete Wood
Reply to  macabee
3 years ago

Hmmm. You sure that’s not fake news? :)

wnb0395
wnb0395
Reply to  macabee
3 years ago

or you could get Winston back and he could do this…. Because he did!

https://www.foxsports.com/florida/story/tampa-bay-buccaneers-arizona-cardinals-score-recap-091816

EastEndBoy
EastEndBoy
Reply to  wnb0395
3 years ago

, @PeteWood,

Indeed.

BucWonder
BucWonder
Reply to  macabee
3 years ago

Great post Alfred E.

I think we see another week of Fitzmagic, but then Khalil Mack & Co. help bring Fitztragic back to the surface, easing the transition back to Jameis for week 6.

martinii
martinii
Reply to  macabee
3 years ago

Mac:
I agree with every word and thanks as usual for the details and facts. I have posted on several occasions lately that this is a typical Eagle example. Foles is SB MVP but Wentz is undisputed Starter when his injury heals. Additionally I think a lot can be said for the other players on team. Been a long time since we have had this many stars. Team is beginning to gell and that speaks volumes for QB stardom. Enjoyed your post.

Dman
Dman
Reply to  macabee
3 years ago

Ok, well, geez, wasn’t going to comment, but I have nothing left to add!!!!! Well said.

Chad Spitza
Chad Spitza
3 years ago

I believe we will see Jameis in Week 6, with an opportunity to see him in week 4. Yes FitzMagic is filling the stat book, he’s not missing throws, and calling the right protections. However, Defensive coordinators do not have the historical data on Monken like they have had on Dirk. Understanding tendencies is huge when it comes to game planning – IMO – more important than what plays are in the playbook (still dirks offense). All the QBs had good preseasons. If we put up good numbers on MNF, I think you’ll see FitzMagic start the short week. If… Read more »

Pete Wood
Pete Wood
3 years ago

I love Fitz. Don’t get me wrong, but don’t make the mistake of confusing a hot quarterback with a great QB.
Remember Josh McCown had a 109 QB rating with the Bears in 2013 and a 70.5 rating with the Bucs the next year. Not the same as the current situation, but you get my point.
Still, what a great problem to have

XpfcWintergreen2
XpfcWintergreen2
3 years ago

As Mr Spock might have said, “Fascinating!” The national media somehow talked the local media and many of the fans into believing the Buccaneers were going to be near the bottom of the heap in the NFL this year. We were definitely going to come out on the bottom of the NFC South. We were going to win maybe 5 or 6 games at best. They completely overlooked all of the things that occurred in the off-season and the preseason. Here we are going into our third game and now they have conjured up a “quarterbacks controversy” and we are… Read more »

Morgan R
Morgan R
3 years ago

I think Fitzpatrick’s age and experience are working for him in ways it never has before. I see a calm, composed QB, surveying defenses, standing in the pocket and delivering the most accurate passes we’ve seen in any Bucs QB. If he does scramble out of the pocket, he gets positive yards with his legs, or finds an open guy, or he throws it away. It could be the he has finally hit that sweet spot in a QB’s career, where the game has slowed down for him, he sees the whole field on every play… He trusts his arm,… Read more »

Pete Wood
Pete Wood
Reply to  Morgan R
3 years ago

Even if Winston can match Fitz’s numbers, I don’t see him matching the older QB’s poise and patience and maturity anytime soon.

BucWonder
BucWonder
Reply to  Pete Wood
3 years ago

Poise, patience, and maturity come over time with experience. Experience comes from playing. I think bucs will get the most out of both QBs and that’s good for the team.

Buc-n-Philly Fan
Buc-n-Philly Fan
Reply to  Pete Wood
3 years ago

Winston has had to force plays due to the poor offensive line, poor rRB play and very poor defense. He has been pressing. He is a competitor and wants to win and he has been the only chance the Team has had. I think folks need to add these bits of truth to their perception of Winston’s turnovers.

makski
makski
Reply to  Morgan R
3 years ago

So, Fitz’s age and experience didn’t work for him when he was 32, or 33?? He is just playing relaxed right now knowing (originally at least) that he isn’t the starter. He is smart, and experienced, but that has never helped him before. We will see what happens in the long run, but I am happy right now, and Fitz is the man for now. Winston will be starting before season’s end, just nobody knows when…

XpfcWintergreen2
XpfcWintergreen2
3 years ago

P.S.

I don’t think the fans here are as frenzied as I find on boards at other sites. I was speaking about what I observe in general.

blind melon
blind melon
3 years ago

Stay with the hot hand.

Absolutely no value in rubbing the crystal ball trying to figure out if or when we swap out the QB. It’s a guess – the decision will be made on the starters performance and right now that is Mr. Fitzpatrick.

Horse
Horse
3 years ago

Fitzpatrick starts against Steeler’s & Bear’s because of ” 2 games played in 6 days”; then decision will be addressed. Right now I’m enjoying these next 2 games. Go Bucs!

EricNV
EricNV
3 years ago

On another subject, I’ve been waiting to see an updated injury report or find out who, if anybody, has returned to practice this week. Anybody at Pewter Report.com have an idea? I haven’t seen anything on this subject.

sunshineben
sunshineben
3 years ago

bucs … trade Winston now!!!.. Why would you want a guy with a bad rap nationally to be the face of the team? He is an embarrassment for the fans .

Buc-n-Philly Fan
Buc-n-Philly Fan
Reply to  sunshineben
3 years ago

Un-intelligent fan alert!!!

Your hatred of Winston is just a creepy as Naplefan’s is. You have some weird fetish with it….

Will
Will
3 years ago

it’s understandable to stay with fitz bc he’s hot right now and doing everything to keep the offense scoring bc lord knows our defense is still suspect. But if it was up to me I’ll start Jamies just bc he’s the future and not point in sitting him down until fitz go cold. Why not just start him and if he messes up then pull him and put fitz back in.

BUC-ASS-BOB
BUC-ASS-BOB
3 years ago

Trade him now while some other stupid team will offer something for him
once he comes back makes off field mistakes and start throwing INTs off back foot and fumbles
Bucs get a nothingburger for him.
Beside who wants that BS mouthpiece in the locker room.

Buc-n-Philly Fan
Buc-n-Philly Fan
Reply to  BUC-ASS-BOB
3 years ago

There’s the clown we have been waiting for!

buddah
buddah
3 years ago

This is great for inciting fans, but really there is nothing new here. It’s a coaches dilemma. So far Koetter has made all the right moves and I trust he will on this one as well, mainly because the players believe in him. That’s why I was strongly in favor of his return. The arguments are pretty clear: (1) Replace FITZ as soon as possible becuase he’s just a journeyman who got hot and Winston is the future (or we have to give Winston a chance to prove he’s the future before we pay him as a franchise quarterback; (2)… Read more »

wnb0395
wnb0395
Reply to  buddah
3 years ago

Well said Buddah. I will support whoever the coaches start. I may not like it but I will support them.

WinstonMVP
WinstonMVP
3 years ago

Love how Fitz and the whole team is playing. Start Winston after the next average game by Fitz. That’s what I would do. Winston will be super motivated to prove himself. And he will. I know it’s only pre-season but Winston had best QB rating in pre-season and in game 3 (I believe) in pre-season Winston scored 24 points in one quarter and has looked better than Fitz in preseason. I think they both would play great right now because our O is all on the same page. Winston should play after first average game by Fitz. If there ver… Read more »

Wausa
Wausa
Reply to  WinstonMVP
3 years ago

WMVP:

I 100% agree except I don’t think it’s a great problem I think it’s a great situation. Media and some fans look at this as a way to bash the Bucs and Jamies when the reality is Jamies is the Bucs long term QB. The Bucs look to have the best QB situation in the league right now Go Fitz! Go Jamies! and Go Bucs!

wnb0395
wnb0395
Reply to  WinstonMVP
3 years ago

Winston MVP, I think Fitz needs to do something that causes us to lose before we sit him. Of course every Qb has an average game every once in a while even Brady. As for the preseason, of course Winston had a better preseason, he was playing with our starting skill position receivers against the other teams 2nd, 3rd, and forth stringers. He better put on a show against them. Go look at the Tenn game. Every player that makes a tackle after the 2nd play of Winstons 1st series is not a starter. Only 2 players that makes a… Read more »

Darin
Darin
3 years ago

I get it. I know why you guys are asking this question. The answer for every Buc fan should be “Who Cares”. To put hin in you need losses. Nobody wants to think losses right now. Let’s enjoy this ride while it lasts. It’s been far too long since this team has had the town buzzing. I’ve been a Buc fan since day one and been to the majority of the games in town. So this only happens every decade at most. An offensive explosion like this has never been seen. Enjoy it. Lets answer this later!!

Tyler21
Tyler21
3 years ago

Just gotta say that Winston is the future and was a pro bowler in 2015 when we gave him a decent o line and running game. We now have a good o line and our weapons are amazing. Evans, Jackson, Howard, Godwin. Even Humphries and Brate are solid options. I’m not saying Winston would put up the same numbers as Fitz-Magic but he would have similar if not better numbers. He might make some dumb decisions but that just comes with lack of experience. With all these weapons he would be good. I agree at the earliest Winston starts week… Read more »

kram0789
kram0789
3 years ago

I agree with Staff, that Fitz is the starter until he earns not to be the starter. It will happen. It is not an accident that Fitz has played for so many teams and never been able to hang onto the starting job. So if you are a Winston fan, just hang in there and hope Winston is learning how to run this offense from Fitz’s example. Hopefully, when Winston’s turn comes, and it will, he will be even better than expected. In the meanwhile, I love me some Fitzpatrick. I love how is having fun with this. Go Fitz!

fredster
fredster
3 years ago

It’s simple you don’t take Fitz oit unless he struggles and loses game or two. That said the Bucs are in a tough position. They were hoping to evaluate Winston this year and decide what to do with and what to pay him going forward. He did himself no favors with the Uber incident. I am also of the opinion based on what I saw in pre season Winston would have put up similar numbers those first two games. We will never know but he played better in pre season. Yes it’s pre season but it’s a good indicator of… Read more »

BUC-ASS-BOB
BUC-ASS-BOB
3 years ago

My heart wants the Bucs keep Fitz all season and go to playoffs
My wallet likes to bet on sportsbook online on every game Winston plays strait bet Bucs lose.
I bet Bucs to lose every game Winston Was playing and he has made me a lot of money.
He bought my wifes new car last year!
I knew he is Bust and I am told how stupid I am every time I write it on this site, But my wife loves her SL550 thanks Jameis.

Horse
Horse
Reply to  BUC-ASS-BOB
3 years ago

I think you should keep betting and then you will be gone from us.

plopes808
plopes808
3 years ago

Can’t mess with the team’s chemistry until Fitz falters. When Winston returns, he should sit back and learn from Fitz about game management and decision making. If Fitz falters or gets hurt, Winston will be on deck to take his place and arguably put up similar if not better numbers. If we’re lucky, we will be up enough in the Bears game that we can put Winston in and get a look at what he’s got in a season game before handing over the keys to him for the rest of the season. If not, there is no reason at… Read more »

scubog
scubog
3 years ago

Lot’s of good opinions. Most respectful. Some predictably anti-Winston. Me, I’m pro-Buccaneer for whoever is wearing the colors. I’ve seen every QB this team has ever fielded since 1976. Every now and then one of them would have a great game or two and the fans would rejoice that the savior had been found. From Randy “Why Not” Minot, Dougie Williams, Chrystal Chandler, Steve DeBerg and countless others to now Ryan Fitzpatrick, we have a long list of teases who have tickled our collective fancies. Who knows if this one will have a “happy ending”. Dirk and staff could end… Read more »

martinii
martinii
Reply to  scubog
3 years ago

Scubog: I agree. There are only a few posters I read daily and I think You and Mac have this QB issue pretty much nailed down. I can see Fitz starting in Chicago if he does a decent job Monday night. I like the idea of Jameis playing a few series against the bears regardless of the outcome. A short leash makes sense for Jameis but I still feel Fitz is a streak player and Jameis is the Buc’s long term QB. Enjoyed the post.

fredster
fredster
3 years ago

Bob Your beyond stupid calling Winston a bust after 3 years with the garbage team they have had around him. Newsflash Fitz didn’t play better than Winston last year for his 2-1 and stats weren’t very good. When Winston came back from the shoulder he played better and stats better. Anyone with half a brain knows your a Winston hater and anyone that’s halfway reasonable would say let’s lets see him play with this team now that is actually blocking decent,playing decent D, running the ball better, better play calling with Monken, etc etc. if he fails with this team… Read more »

BUC-ASS-BOB
BUC-ASS-BOB
Reply to  fredster
3 years ago

No such luck Fredster own house and cars no loans, will not bet unless they bring Winston back, and if that happens bet them to lose cause Winston is proven loser.
The world sees it but not the pewter crowd they in de·ni·al

surferdudes
3 years ago

One thing we should all agree on Scubog, Koetter won’t announce who his starting Q.B. will be till right up to game time. He’ll guard that decision like his job depended on it, which it does.

owlykat
owlykat
3 years ago

Just compare Fitz’s red zone production to Jameis’ last year; then compare Fitz’s accuracy to Djax to Jameis’ inaccurate long throws to Djax; is then notice how many times Jameis’ adrenalin caused him to overthrow receivers at the start of games, to Fitz’s calm quick starts this year, then compare the number of turnovers percentage per game to each of them. Jameis would get behind and start taking big chances in his throws resulting in interceptions; compare that to Fitz’s calm demeanor and confidence when he plays from behind and wins. Then compare the win rate between the two. Jameis… Read more »

Gator Frank
Gator Frank
3 years ago

I think Jason Licht should make a phone call to Jon Gruden. Offer Winston for Derek Carr and a 3rd round draft pick. Gruden has never met a QB he didn’t like. Also he was drooling over Jameis in the TV booth. The Bucs would get a good young QB and solve the “PR” problem.

owlykat
owlykat
3 years ago

Carr has serious back problems and isn’t the QB he used to be. Don’t forget Licht paying big money to a Seattle Guard that also had back problems and was a bust here! He won’t make that mistake twice. Chucky would love that deal to shut up his critics over his dealing off their best pass rusher to Chicago, but it would be a disaster for us. We need Jameis in case the Majic falters for Fitz.