Despite bringing in a new coaching staff to improve the development of Jameis Winston and a young defense, Pro Football Talk’s Peter King does not have a high hopes for the Bucs in 2019. King ranked all 32 NFL teams on his “Football Morning In America” column and had the Bucs ranked 29th overall with a third straight 5-11 season.

While the addition of Bruce Arians mentoring Winston is intriguing, King does not entirely believe that Winston will be able to stop turning the ball over. He threw 14 interceptions last season in 11 games, and has 58 career interceptions in 56 games played.

For an offense that is keen on taking shots down field, it will be up to Arians to fix Winston’s problems. Whether that can be executed remains to be seen.

You can see King’s entire analysis for ranking including the Bucs here.

“Bruce Arians and Byron Leftwich with Jameis Winston. I like that a lot, mostly because of the drama. I have no idea what direction the Bucs’ offense will take, but I do know one thing: Winston will throw deep early and often. The biggest job for Arians, aside from trying to U-turn a foundering franchise, is the care and fixing of Winston, who couldn’t cure his interception bug in four seasons of Dirk Koetter’s tutelage. In fact, the only quarterback in the NFL since 2015 (minimum 1,500 attempts) to average more than a 3 percent interception rate is Winston—58 picks on 1,922 attempts, for a pick rate of 3.02 percent. Which means that, for every 100 passes Winston has thrown as a pro, just over three have been intercepted. (Hat-tip to Pro Football Reference for the play-index device that allows that stat to be figured out.) So you see the need for new teaching voicing in Winston’s ear … By the way, speaking of the Marcus Mariota-Jameis Winston debate, they meet for a referendum in Nashville on Oct. 27.” – Peter King.

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  1. At this stage, it’s easy for national writers to put the Bucs in the bottom 5 teams in the league.

    Question marks on offense: The line, unproven RB’s, and the aforementioned interception rate of Winston.

    Question marks on defense: Defense is filled with DIME personnel and no JPP.

    The schedule(against the NFC South, AFC South and NFC West) isn’t helping the national writers confidence in the Bucs either.

    Gruden’s blueprint is what I expect Arians to follow…

    Year one – Cut the fat. Overpaid players got to go…GMC, D.Jax, Alexander, Hump, Grimes, Conte.
    Year two – Cut the GM. Full reset on players. All the one year deals are due. Arians becomes Tampa’s version of Bellichek.
    Year three – Playoffs.

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  2. Run the frigging ball, Fix damn O line! Play defense that isn’t worst in league. They do these three things and I bet good money Winston “turnover” problem goes away.

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  3. I going to have to disagree with King.

    Bucs lot a lot of close games the last few years due to back FG kicking and a defense that should be at least NFL average.

    The Bucs offense can do better overall as well but in today’s NFL the Bucs offense goes above and beyond for what is needed for a W.

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  4. I think King gave the Bucs more credit than than he truly believe they deserve , other than Az there is no teams Bucs will be favored in.

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  5. Winston has a problem with turnovers but on the field he is far from the biggest problem onr the team. The construction of the roster (weaknesses at both offensive and defensive line) and failures of the draft picks in 2016/2018 and free agency over 5 seasons under Licht have doomed this team.

    The Bucs were 5-11 in 2017. The Bucs were 5-11 in 2018. There are few places that follow the NFL or Bucs that think anything of note has changed about the team to avoid another 5-11 record in 2019. PR can sell Arians and defend Licht all they want but the results have and will speak for themselves.

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  6. King isn’t wrong to assess the Bucs future based on the QB primarily. It always starts with the QB. The Bucs aren’t sure who their QB is for the future. Say what you want, but if they were sold on Winston, he would have gotten a 2nd contract already. Arians is his last hope in Tampa.

    Arians Laundry List Things To Fix:

    Winston has mechanical issues which lead to inaccuracy according to BA.
    Winston has fumbling problems when he runs with it.
    Winston holds on to the ball too long which hangs his O line out to dry.
    Winston doesn’t know how to throw the ball away.
    Winston throws the highest rate of INT’s in the NFL of current starters.
    Winston lost half the locker room last year to journeyman and relic Fitzpatrick.
    Winston has 2 strikes being accused of a sexual predator in which he settled out of court. He is one accusation away from a much longer ban.

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  7. ” the only quarterback in the NFL since 2015″….ONLY….that’s not a great place to be. I think BigSombrero probably has it right:

    1) this year is just the sandbox to try and see what pieces BA might have to work with in the future;

    2) next year we get an actual GM to fill in some holes (“flood the position to find talent”…worst idea I have ever heard a GM muster….you only get maybe (maybe) 3/4 meaningful draft picks and in Tampa if you’re incredibly lucky perhaps 1 meaningful FA (none this year of course)…and you’re going to use most (if not all) of that on a single position for a team with holes everywhere…horrible idea. I mean sure, perhaps one of these 6 guys he’s picked in the last couple of years will become something more than a JAG – we can hope – but in the mean time who’s going to throw a block, or run the ball, or rush the passer, or…

    3) the year after we have a chance at the playoffs (maybe Brees will actual retire by then too)

    Rebuilding mode…

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  8. Coaching alone is good for three more wins than last season. JPP will be back sometime in ❤️September. The D may not make it to the top 16, but they won’t be in the bottom third either. What the D lacks in experience they will make up for in speed. The offense will be better balanced and at least be in the top ten. I believe that. The biggest impact of new coaches will be on STs. Jameis hasn’t molested any Uber drivers in over three years. He’s got a family now and he’s focused on football. 8-8 at the very worst.

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  9. We should have easily been 8-8 last year, that was more likely than 3-13… We didn’t lose any players that would make a difference to our record so a respectable season is within grasp as we stand… The Secondary was flooded but young but it couldn’t be any worse than last year… I think switching to a 3-4 could be the best thing for us at this point because it will provide a lot more leeway and variations that we couldn’t have with the standard 4 down Lineman trying to recreate Rice/Sapp/McFarland/Spires type of magic. There is going to be a lot more attacking and a lot more attitude put there on Defense this year and it’s gonna be a lot of fun to watch…

    The Offense is basically the same and might even be improved with Watford having to be an upgrade over Benenoch and a switch up at the WO and Slot positions… It is totally in the realm of possibility for us to at least content for a Wild Card spot this year if not the Division, if we stay healthy. There are gonna be some surprises on this team (good ones) and all the band wagoners will come flooding back. That’s at least what I am hoping for…

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  10. As normal, I disagree with Sombrero and DumbAss Bob…….and for you Licht haters /bashers, you may want to find a new favorite team because I dont see him going anywhere anytime soon. Rookie LB Devin White will be in the Pro Bowl this season which will further deepen the Glazers love and support of him as their GM.

    For the record, Peter King is about as washed up as they come. He’s NEVER liked the Bucs (even in our heyday), so I’m not surprised at all of this worthless write-up on our team. He LOVES the Patriots so I’m sure they are ranked high…..plus the Chiefs are the early glamour pick of most NFL writers so I bet they are ranked high also. Big news, thanks Peter, now RETIRE already.

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  11. @bucfan-circa76 Insightful post as usual! You really articulate your points like a pro! Maybe you should write for SI and co host NFL on NBC instead of Peter King!

    I love your guarantee that Devin White goes to the Pro Bowl! That would be awesome!

    It would also mean the Bucs had a winning season and that White lead other NFL inside linebackers in categories like tackles, ints, sacks, fumbles, or total defense. Basically a TOTAL 180 from the defense put up by McCoy, Alexander, Grimes, Conte, VH3, Swaggy Baker, JPP and the rest of Licht’s key players acquired or retained during his tenure!

    3 cheers to leopards shedding their spots!

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  12. I’ve never liked Peter King. How does one analyze the Bucs and fail to cite the horrid defense and pathetic placekicking that has plagued the team? Too easy to blame the QB than do an actual study.

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    • I’m not a fan of Peter King either. The only difference between him and Captain Obvious from the Hotels.com commercials is King takes himself more seriously. Everything he says anyone who follows that team already knows, only he tells it to you at least 3 months late.

      To your point about the defense and pathetic placekicking, it’s the same GM that created that defense and pathetic placekicking that’s been in charge of fixing the defense and pathetic placekicking. The HC chosen to help correct the defense and pathetic placekicking…was also chosen by this GM. As much as I dislike King his skepticism with the changes is warranted…and in this case the skepticism is about 4 years too late when his observations are now painfully obvious.

      I’ll close by saying this another way. If you were the fan of another NFL team (let’s say the Raiders since they have a bad defense, placekicking and running game) and you were told that Licht was your new GM and he was there to fix your bad defense, placekicking and running game, wouldn’t you be skeptical based on what he’s done with the Bucs? Well, that’s exactly what the Glazers have done. By extending Licht a year last season they hired him to fix problems that are only there because of him!

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  13. Never have been a big Peter Bellicheck King fan, but his assessment that with BA we will be throwing deep “early and often” is interesting. I would be surprised if that is the plan – we simply don’t have the O line for it. That was the Dirk Koetter vertical passing game that got both Jamies and Fitz beaten up. Passing game will need to be more 3 and 5 step drops, quick throws.

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  14. Buc fan 76 you sure like betting on losers white will take two to three years to be to the Pro Bowl he’s skill impaired

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  15. All of the experts on here will have a few more reasons to dislike Jason Licht…Tampa will NOT get Compensatory picks next year.

    https://overthecap.com/2020-compensatory-draft-picks-update-5-13-2019/

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  16. Losing Kwon, Hump cancelled out by Buchanon and Barrett amongst others. Net value scratch. Journeyman on his 8th team in 14 years Ryan Fitzpatrick earned Tampa basically nothing.

    You know what they say, “Count your chickens when they hatch”

    So, Greg Auman and Scott Reynolds amongst many other expert fans on these boards were dead ass wrong.

    Kings favorite team, the Patriots lead the way with 5 comp picks.

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  17. @bigsombrero, if the team improves after losing all those players you speak of, isn’t that a bigger indictment on Koetter and Mike Smith than Licht? Really, if the team improves this season despite losing several key players, that HELPS Licht’s cause, not the other way around. Really that only proves Koetter and Smith were as bad at their jobs as many believe they were.

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  18. As for comp picks, good teams more often get them, bad teams don’t. It’s kinda bow the system works. Bad teams will more routinely sign higher priced players to try to improve, good teams will stick with drafting and developing depth and allowing contracts of their starters to run out. You need to actually establish starters first though, which it took years for the Patriots to do as well (long ago). They’ve just been insanely good at maintaining and developing since then…again, a testament to their coaching more than anything.

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  19. BigSombrero, I’m confused, were you talking about Winston’s problems or Ben Rothlesberger’s, because I am almost certain I have read all the same critisisms about Big Ben.
    Of course a lot of people like to try and forget about Big Ben’s sexual assault charges because of his pigmentation but if you ever read about them, they were far worse and more frequent than Winston’s.
    And by the way, Winston didn’t lose the team or the locker room last year when he was benched.
    Only one player, the team diva, was calling for Fitzpatrick to start.
    And as we all know by now, Fitz went in and threw a slew of INT’s because the defense put him in the same situations as Winston and he rarely connected with our diva.
    If you want to hang your hat on MeShawn, a player who rarely showed up for OTA’s and threw little fits in the locker room, go right ahead.

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  20. Like many of you, I realize Peter King has never liked the Bucs and his short comings as an NFL analyst.
    As usual, the jury still seems to be deadlocked on Licht.[
    One thing is for certain,this year is the rubber match for Licht.
    If Spence plays well along with Hargreaves, Winston, all of our DBs and Howard stays healthy, and the Bucs finish 8-8 or better it is a sure thing Licht sticks around.
    And yes, that is entirely possible.
    I saw Sean Payton trade for Eli Apple last season and when put in a press defensive scheme instead of the off coverage he was playing in New York, his performance improved greatly.
    So yes, coaching and scheme do play a big part in how a player and a team performs.

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  21. Wow! We get nothing for losing Kwon and Hump and replacing them with God knows what, ridiculous.

    Holes are all over this roster. The O line is still horrible – the same as it was last year. Everyone will blame Jamies and the RB’s, but it’s the O line stupid! And the D line. We are so weak in the trenches is kills me. But glad we got there DB’s that run 4.3, 4.4. Six draft picks dedicated to DB’s in last two drafts and we can’t block or rush the passer.

    How does Jason Licht still have a job……

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  22. @DT25 I’m not sure I follow. For the record, I’m a Licht fan. However Licht brought in most of those players that have since left, but he also hired the coaches you referenced. He even increased Mike Smith’s pay after the Bucs went 9-7 in Dirk’s first year. There have been some big time gaffes in the draft and in free agency that his detractors point to regularly and I’m starting to see their point.

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  23. @drdneast Im not sure Big Ben and Jameis Winston are in the same class quite yet.

    As far as sexual assault accusations for either player, I’m not going to defend circumstances surrounding either. Also, I’m not the decision maker on his suspension if he is ACCUSED(not convicted) by someone else. It’s been reported that the NFL would come down hard with a lengthy suspension if it happens. It’s not my opinion, just what’s been reported.

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  24. People can dump on King all they like, but his conclusions about the Bucs are virtually the same as all the major media organizations as well as the Las Vegas betting lines. The over/under for the Bucs is somewhere between 6 and 6.5 wins and a last place finish in the NFC South and 100:1 odds to win a Super Bowl .. with power rankings all within the bottom 6 give or take.

    Yet the ones here who call themselves “true fans” and invite the others who live in the real world to stop following the Bucs are the koolaid drinkers. They keep listening to the same old stories coming from the Bucaneers “brainless trust” and believe it every time, just like Charlie Brown keeps thinking that Lucy is actually going to hold the football for him.

    The rest of us Bucs fans are fans of what used to be the Bucs, before the Baby Glazers ruined it all a decade ago, and keep coming up snakeyes year after year, like the insane folks who think repeating something over and over again and yet expect a different result.

    Bruce Arians may or may not be able to fix what has ailed the Bucs, I doubt that a coach alone can fix what actually ails the Bucs.

    But when the “real fans” start declaring, as several have above in this thread, that the “real plan” is to treat this as a rebuilding year, and now we have to wait til the next next year to see results, that is never a good sign.

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  25. Big Sombrero, why continue to bring it up then.

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  26. From what I can gather Arians doesn’t believe in overpaying for OL or putting the most talented OL to start. He wants the most reliable and consistent five technicians out there. Technically the Bucs have a lot of money and talent on the o-line but still haven’t formed into a cohesive unit.

    Lack of talent isn’t the problem IMO as right guard are a dime of dozen and the easiest position to replace on the OL. Personally speaking I want the Bucs to draft some o-lineman to push out some high priced OL off the roster which is why good teams always draft trenches. These good teams always draft trenches so they can control salary cap costs while being able to lock up a skill player or two they want to keep.

    Defensive line is a mess and Licht has Vea and Nelson to show for it so far which isn’t much if we are talking about a 2nd year player and a 1st year player.

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  27. drdneast…The article is about King’s ranking of the Bucs. The primary reason he thinks Tampa will be a bottom 3 team is Winston. The article is mostly about Winston.

    I think Winston has the tools to be successful in the NFL. There are some well documented concerns with his game. Availability is one of them due to off field concerns. QB whisperer Bruce Arians was brought in to save Winston from himself on the field.

    Can he do it? I hope so, but it’s a long list of things to change IMO.

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  28. Also, drdneast, I will concede that it was only RUMORED that the locker room was split, even if it makes sense that they would be.

    One thing is certain though, the fan base and national media was ABSOLUTELY split. There are tons of fans who wanted Fitz to continue playing.

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  29. @bigsombrero, not sure why anyone believes he had much of an option to hire Koetter at the time (and Mike Smith was a Koetter hire). If you remember, everyone was stressing continuity for Jameis in his 2nd year as a pro. And honestly, Koetter was a fine decision then. Not my favorite but I understood why he was being forced on us. He appeared to have a good understanding of Winston’s strengths and many believed he’d be able to build this team around that. Fast forward a few years and we saw the cracks form in his inability to adjust and stubborn insistence to force his system no matter what (same goes for Smith), and it led to their demise.

    My point was more that while Licht hasn’t been perfect, it’s really difficult to tell exactly how successful he’s been with talent acquisition without seeing most of this roster play for a NFL-caliber coaching staff. For the first time as a GM, he was afforded an opportunity to run a full, extensive coaching search with no limitations and he hired Arians and Bowles. So hopefully we now have a staff that can give us a better read on the job Licht has done with the players he’s built this roster with by putting those players in better situations for success.

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  30. Winston has never had a season where he has thrown more INT’s than TDs (eg. Big Ben). Also, Winston had thrown for 14.628 passing yards in four seasons which is a rare feat for any QB in NFL history.

    Even with Winston’s INT’s last year this team would have reached .500 with a competent NFL defense and special teams.

    So King can overlook all this all he wants but doesn’t change the fact that Winston has flown under the radar and is on pace to reach 20k passing yards well before he hits 28 years of age.

    Now, if Winston cuts down on his INT’s and the defense/special teams performs then the Bucs are more than just a mere .500 ball club. But that is a lot of ifs.

    But right now based on what we do know is that the Bucs defense needs to improve to NFL average. That will be the quickest way to lower Winston’s INT’s and also help the Bucs win more games.

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  31. I’ve never been called an optimist, but this post will surely lead to that. I think coaching makes a bigger difference in The NFL than with any sport. Now yes, you need talent, but the talent difference from team to team isn’t great.

    Our first 3 games will make or break our season and I feel all 3 games are winnable. Our coaching staff will put us in position to win all 3 of these games… and I think we’ll build momentum with each win. Then comes our rough stretch over the next 5 weeks. If we can find a way to go 2 and 3 in those 5 weeks then we will be 5 and 3 at the mid-way point. Winning breads confidence and I’d like to see us playing the back half of our schedule riding a winning record. 10-6… and possibly a wild card spot.

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  32. @dt25 I definitely agree that Licht made the best decision at the time by giving Dirk his first pro HC job. He was great with Winston in the first season and it made tons of sense to keep some continuity for the former #1 overall pick.

    I agree with you that Arians and Bowles are his first true hires. I hope it works out. I have supported and defended lots of his picks over the last few years including Alexander, Vea, Winston, D. Smith, and even Aguayo. It sucks when the player is a bust(Aguayo) or unfairly criticized(Vea, D.Smith) by the media and fans. I’m hopeful that Arians and his team of coaches will get the most out of the players.

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