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The offseason is the time for rankings.

We’re ranking teams, coaches, position groups, restaurants, vacation spots. Heck, I’d rank the Instagram accounts you guys have for your pets, if I felt like it.

In the latest edition of rankings, Sporting News ranked all 32 starting quarterbacks in the NFL, and Tampa Bay Buccaneers’ own Jameis Winston came in at No. 17.

“There’s a feeling that Winston should have accomplished more in his first three seasons given his former draft status as a no-brainer No. 1 overall pick. But even through the numbers and wins haven’t progressed as desired, there has been improvement in his game. Year 4 will be either the big leap or another middle-of-the-pack season.”

Their rankings were kind of odd. They had Carson Wentz No. 5, Marcus Mariota No. 11 and Cam Newton No. 19.

Regardless, your thoughts on Winston being below the average line of starting quarterbacks?

Think he was robbed? Or does he still have too much to prove?

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About the Author: Trevor Sikkema

Trevor Sikkema is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers beat reporter and NFL Draft analyst for PewterReport.com. Sikkema, an alumnus of the University of Florida, has covered both college and professional football for much of his career. As a native of the Sunshine State, when he's not buried in social media, Sikkema can be found out and active, attempting to be the best athlete he never was. Sikkema can be reached at: trevor@pewterreport.com
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Brooks Dunn-Winston
3 years ago

Where was JW ranked?

Mike Wright
3 years ago

Look Buc fans, Whenever..you play for a bottom tier team, Your ratings and rankings will suffer. Mariotta took his team to the playoffs last year and his ratings are now coming up fast. Many Floridians are enamoured with Winston..Fl State Heisman winner..after all right? But its time for Winston to elevate his play. Take it up a notch or 2. To be fair, when you are always playing catchup in games, you take a lot of chances. And thats our claim to fame..Always playing from behind at the end. We all want Jameis to be the guy. But will he… Read more »

Bucnut2
Reply to  Mike Wright
3 years ago

well said

Jonathan
Reply to  Mike Wright
3 years ago

This is very simple. An improved D-line will lead to an improved secondary. The secondary is better even WITHOUT the improved D-line! So, should be good. Linebacker corps? Very good. The improved defense will lead to an improved offense, regardless of any changes. Simply because the offense gets a shorter field more possession. The O-line is much better. This leads to our receivers being better. As well as the running game, even if there were no improvements in either group. However, both the running game and the passing game has improved.A better offense helps the defense. Oboy I am liking… Read more »

GrafikDetail
Reply to  Mike Wright
3 years ago

well said BUT Mariotta didn’t take his team to the playoffs he was pretty bad last year… the Titans defense & running game led them to the playoffs… two things the Bucs didn’t have… Winston needs to cutback on the dumb mistakes & improved on his deep ball but plenty of games last season winston actually led the team for the go ahead TD and the defense let him down… or in the 4 minute offense not having a running game to chew up clock

scubog
Reply to  gafikdetail
3 years ago

Exactly. People just try to find info that suits their agenda.

fredster
3 years ago

17th is about right I think. I don’t think I’d put Mariota ahead at this point. Can does stink overall and he’s always been an inconsistent passer. Winston still does still have a lot to prove of course. With a possibly better run game and defense this year he should show much improvement going into year 4 otherwise you have to start wondering about him some. Same offside coach all along too…

sunshineben
3 years ago

With all the weapons Winston has i think you would have to accept his ranking . Its up to him to prove the bucs picked the right qb but i have my doubts.

e
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3 years ago

Jameis is setting some major records as a young QB in the NFL. There is no doubt that he has the skills necessary to be one of the top QBs in the NFL. Mike is “Wright”, when he say that playing for a struggling team will hurt the QB’s ranking. Once JW has a defense he can rely up as well as a nifty RB like RoJo supporting him, his numbers and his stock are going to rise. In the mean time, this must be great bulletin board material for Jameis…

jerseybucsfan
3 years ago

I love the way Anti Winston people say some of us favor him because of his background. Forget the fact that he dramatically outplayed Mariota in 2017. Imo Winston’s 17th is about right. But Mariota 11th is a joke. And frankly ranking Newton that low is ludicrous too.

cgmaster27
Reply to  jerseybucsfan
3 years ago

Yeah Mariota was God awful last year, if winston had those stats ,bucs fans like Mike seven and bucnut would skewer him. 13 TDs and 17 Ints last year forMariota, average would grossly over sell him last season.

TBAtlas
3 years ago

Jimmy G at 8, Mariota at 11 Luck at 20 and Bortles at 21 what are they smoking?

All WAYYY too high. Jimmy G won 5 games, some barely. Mariota’s season was offensive and getting lucky at the endzone and the Chiefs choking aren’t pros on his size. Luck is looking like he’s never going to play again. Bortles is still going to hold an otherwise All-Star team back.

Bucnut2
3 years ago

Winston is what he is, a talented QB who is turnover prone and has a losing record. Turning the ball over and having a losing record overshadows his considerable physical talent. Blame the rest of the roster all you want but the facts are the Fitz won 2 games in 3 starts with the exact same roster that Winston won 3 games in 13 starts. The ONLY stats that matter are wins and on that measure, Winston is very average.

cgmaster27
Reply to  Bucnut2
3 years ago

Facts are fitz played two of the worst teams on our schedule last year, but you conveniently leave that out of your sterling analysis.

tnew
3 years ago

17th for Winston is just about right. Jimmy G at 8 and Mariota at 11, um, no way. Winston is set to really surprise some people this season. He was way, way overblown going into 2017 and is way, way down graded for 2018, so he is set to rebound this year. For me, “all of the weapons” is more about Koetter. With all of the weapons, Koetter’s play designs relied too heavily on execution and perfection at the QB position, rather than requiring the opposing defense to make difficult decisions. I hear “all of his weapons” over and over… Read more »

Mike.Seven
3 years ago

There are 19 QB that played several games last year with a better Qb rating There are 25 Teams with a better record last year Despite only playing 13 games there is only 1 QB with more turnovers last year INT fumbles lost combined, Remember lost fumbles count as turn over. out of thirteen games average there is only 3 QB with worse losing record last year. I understand winning and losing INT and fumbles do not count with most here on Pewter. but other sports writers take losing, INT, lost fumbles QB rating and personal fouls into consideration when… Read more »

Bucnut2
Reply to  Mike.Seven
3 years ago

Amen Brother. Winsotn= worst draft choice in Bucs history. Should have traded down.

cgmaster27
Reply to  Bucnut2
3 years ago

I was waiting for the clown comment of the day,not a surprise it’s from you bucnut.

Bucnut2
Reply to  cgmaster27
3 years ago

Just curious as to why facts seem to bother you so much. And oh by the way, how about acting with some class? I disagree with almost everything you post, but I have never taken a personal shot at you or anyone else on this site.

e
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Reply to  Bucnut2
3 years ago

Were you Bucs fan when they decided on draft morning, drafting Keith McCants and passing on Emmitt Smith?

Jonathan
Reply to  cgmaster27
3 years ago

I was an anti-Winston person from day one and really thought trading down they could have had a ton of pics., and still have managed to find a QB OK Didn’t happen. Certainly NOT the worst pick ever. My God where have you been? Do you remember Bo Jackson? This is what we have. So I am pulling for Winston all out. Good news? Almost EVERY aspect of the Bucs is better. Contrary to some posts, EVERY aspect of a football team affects a QB. A lot of talent, and not the kind of “wait around and let’s see” as… Read more »

Bucnut2
Reply to  Jonathan
3 years ago

Hi. How are you feeling about this post now?

Jlog
Jlog
Reply to  Bucnut2
3 years ago

Far from the worst that would go to Bo Jackson first overall and never took a snap for the Bucs. Winston is in the middle of the pack of first round picks. He’s not a bust by a long shot but he’s just as far off from meeting the expectation of a 1st overall pick. It was a bad year for QB’s that draft we did what we felt was right.

cgmaster27
Reply to  Mike.Seven
3 years ago

Same boring rant as ever, winston will be here for years to come troll. Time for you to pick a new team.

sunshineben
Reply to  cgmaster27
3 years ago

Maybe time to take off ur rose colored glasses and your insults to people who don’t agree with you are not necessary. Winston has more quality receivers and yet his accuracy and fumbles are still a question..I hope he improves or he will be another Dilfer here and gone

Jlog
Jlog
Reply to  cgmaster27
3 years ago

If this team doesn’t get more than 6 wins chances are high our new couch will be drafting a QB in the first round next year. On paper we have a top 5 offense anything less than 8 and 8 is completely unexceptionable.

Jonathan
Reply to  Jlog
3 years ago

I looked back at drafts from 2014 til 2017. The Good Lord smiled on us. Until the Goff and Wentz pairing (we were 11th that draft. Not a QB to be had worth a crap) The 2015 draft fell just right for us. 1st pick. 2 quality qbs available. As I said before, I was opposed to Winston…but in retrospect, that was almost a Stevie Wonder pick. There is a chance, actually a GOOD chance this guy could be in the top 5 every year here on out. The rest of the team is young, talented,strong and fast. This is… Read more »

Mike.Seven
Reply to  Jlog
3 years ago

I think you are 100% correct new coach and GM will be drafting QB with the first pick in the draft.
this team went through free agency and draft with such lack of urgency and now the schedule is here and it time to say OMG where the easy teams we use to get a few wins with!

Bucnut2
Reply to  cgmaster27
3 years ago

are you going to to travel to Canada for he is games when he is playing in the CFL?

Horse
Reply to  Mike.Seven
3 years ago

You’ll be singing a different song If we actually have a better defense.

Bucnut2
Reply to  Horse
3 years ago

Hi Horse- what a difference a week makes.

tnew
3 years ago

And I agree. Ranking Newton at 19 is crazy. He carries that team on his back every season. Yes the system allows him to do what he does well (this is what all coaches should do) but his success at the helm is not arguable.

fredster
3 years ago

Cam is inconsistent and not all that accurate. He is tough runner and when the Panthers run the ball well his running threat makes them hard to defend. Take away the run and he’s lackluster. He is not a great QB or pocket passer or someone that will beat you throwing. That all said 19 seems little low still but I’m not a big Cam fan.

Horse
Reply to  fredster
3 years ago

But he has a defense and that makes a big difference.

Bucnut2
Reply to  fredster
3 years ago

Last I heard he’s not going to be suspended.

BucWonder
3 years ago

Jameis passed Brad in TDs and yards this last season. This year Jameis will pass Vinny, Josh, Trent, and Doug to become the Buc leader in TDs and yards. I say we keep him around awhile.

BUC-ASS-BOB
3 years ago

For three years I was alone in my statements that Winston as a whole package would not be a winning QB in the NFL Now others jumping on finally His net average at Florida State after taking in all factors INT fumbles lost was a strong 8.9 Yards per attempt. Stats show Florida State would win games with Jamies Winston in collage play. However NFL is different the Defense forces Jamies out of his comfort zone, he does not get the time to throw he got in collage , after 3 years his average has dropped below 6 yards a… Read more »

Horse
Reply to  BUC-ASS-BOB
3 years ago

Florida State also had a defense which made a big difference. Several of the defensive players went in the NFL.

Sam
Sam
Reply to  Horse
3 years ago

The ranking is about right. He’s got some things to fix. The good thing is he will fix them and get better. He is still a very young man.

BUC-ASS-BOB
Reply to  Horse
3 years ago

How can the defense effect his drop in yardage per attempt ???? from collage to pro
He can effect defense by not letting them get rest , but defense has no effect his yardage per attempt
Its time to wake up drop the blinders .

chefboho
Reply to  BUC-ASS-BOB
3 years ago

So the four games where the defense blew the lead in the fourth and the two games that the kicking cost us were all jameis fault? I love how you throw all these facts out there butnforget the obvious ones buc bob. I know jameis has a lot to prove and he needs to improve for sure, but the fact that people like you, bucnut, and sunshineben have been anti jameis since he got here says everything. I also believe there were three games where td’s were dropped by our receiver, or that most teams and scouts had us as… Read more »

Bucnut2
Reply to  BUC-ASS-BOB
3 years ago

How right you are

fredster
3 years ago

Bud ass bob get real. If anything Winston Pressed more and took more chances becasuse that was the leagues worst defense! You act like he put them in bad situations. Laughable your an idiot. That defense could not stop anyone or pressure anyone period. You act like they were doing great every game until Winston. Would Throws an int.? That’s the dumbest thing and so far from reality it’s crazy.

fredster
3 years ago

Not running the ball and poor O line play last year didn’t help the defense ,but that’s Winstons fault too right? I’m sure in your mind it is.

BUC-ASS-BOB
3 years ago

Sorry Fredster the fact NFL gives QB less time to throw is a bad thing for QB with bad foot motion who drops elbow, Bucs choice to ignore the scouts and it has cost them 3 years and counting,
The biggest haunt of the draft day was not the mixed reaction from Bucs fans, I am still haunted from the celebration in Tenn when the 1st pick was announced and the Titans fans realized Marcus was going to them. Very sad day! It was pandemonium in Tenn while Bucs fans were left arguing among them self’s.

chefboho
Reply to  BUC-ASS-BOB
3 years ago

You mean the 13td’s to 17int mariota? The guy with a much better offensive line, defense and running game? You cane have him. I’d love to see video of the titans fans cheering when we took mariota since you’ve seen footage of this somewhere…

Bucnut2
Reply to  chefboho
3 years ago

I’ll bet you anything you want that Mariota player more games this year than Winston. Oh and by the way, Mariota has won playoff game. Winston???

BleedOrange78
3 years ago

Yeah…I’m not sure what “sad” day is being referred to but if that’s how some of you choose to remember it, I have no desire to argue in circles about it. Rankings like this are meaningless and only get people worked up – you’ve got people putting together lists who barely know most of the teams they are ranking. So, 17th for Winston before the start of the season. Who cares. What is it in Feb 2019 is what I’m interested in.

pinkstob
3 years ago

He still has too much to prove. He turns the ball over too much, he doesn’t score enough in the red zone and he isn’t accurate enough (I wanted to see 2 seasons of over 63% completion in his first 3 seasons). All of that leads to too many wasted drives which leads to too many losses in games which puts him below the league average in QB’s.

Eric
3 years ago

I like jw, after watching him in college I was hoping he would be elite. Well, pretty sure that is not going to happen. He is what he is, inconsistent, turn over prone and tons of potential. He is not a brady, brees, rogers etc…and wont be one. What separates those guys is their ability to WIN despite the shortcomings of their teams. I don’t believe JW will be able to consistently elevate his game to that level. Of course I hope he does, and although I agree the Bucs are definitely in a better situation personnel wise, we have… Read more »

Eric
3 years ago

and as far as the rankings go, unless he is top 5, it really doesn’t matter. Bet Dan Marino would give up a lot of his STAT records to have a SB Championship.

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