Cardinals SS Tyran Mathieu - Photo by: Getty Images
Due to the in-depth writing associated with my Bucs Battle Plan this week and the latest PewterReport.com 7-Round Mock Draft that will debut on Sunday, there won’t be a Discount Garage Doors SR’s Fab 5 column today. But I wanted to provide you with some insight on what the Bucs plan to do in free agency, which begins on Monday, March 12 when teams are allowed to open negotiations with agents prior to the official start of free agency on Wednesday, March 14.
Bucs fans have been freaking out over the past week as they have seen defensive line help go elsewhere around the league via trade and free agency.
Former Jets defensive end Mohammed Wilkerson has plenty of talent to go along with his character issues and Tampa Bay is steering clear of him. The free agent visited with Green Bay this week and then New Orleans and Kansas City are up next. One Buc Place won’t be among his stops this offseason.
The Bucs already had one bad apple with Chris Baker, who just signed a one-year deal with Cincinnati, along the defensive line last year and don’t want another one. Notice how no team has swooped in and snatched up Wilkerson within days of his release by the Jets. That should tell you something.
The Los Angeles Rams traded defensive end Robert Quinn to Miami for a fourth-round pick and swapped sixth-rounders with the Dolphins. Quinn had 8.5 sacks last year for the Rams, and that number looks awfully tantalizing to a team that notched just 22 and whose leading sacker, Pro Bowl defensive tackle Gerald McCoy, only had six. Doesn’t it?
Quinn is only 27, but has missed a total of 16 games over the past three years due to back surgery, shoulder surgery and concussions. The Bucs were reportedly in the hunt for Quinn, but why didn’t they offer at least a fourth- and a fifth-round pick to obtain him? Perhaps the better question is why Quinn only was traded for fourth- and sixth-round picks?
There are quite a few teams that need pass rushing defensive ends around the league, and there aren’t many good edge rushers in free agency since Demarcus Lawrence and Ziggy Ansah, nor are they plentiful in this year’s draft. So why was a fourth-rounder and a sixth-rounder – two Day 3 selections – the going rate for a player that a brilliant defensive coordinator like Wade Phillips didn’t want anymore?
Keep in mind that Quinn is scheduled to earn $11.4 million in base salary and a $1.11 million roster bonus in 2018. The guess here is that the Bucs would rather see that money go towards a younger, proven player in the form of a contract extension for wide receiver Mike Evans, middle linebacker Kwon Alexander or offensive lineman Ali Marpet.
Former Rams DE-OLB Robert Quinn – Photo by: Getty Images
So, what about Seahawks defensive end Michael Bennett? McCoy, who is desperate for help at defensive end, was campaigning to be reunited with Bennett on Twitter, just as he lobbied for Quinn earlier in the week. Instead of being traded to Tampa Bay, Bennett was shipped to Philadelphia for essentially a fifth-rounder.
I know Bennett’s 8.5 sacks look tempting, but he’ll be 33 this year and just a year earlier he recorded five sacks. The film says that despite the production he’s lost a step. There’s also the fact that he’s scheduled to earn $6.65 million and the concern that his sack production could quickly drop off as it did for Robert Ayers, Jr. last year in Tampa Bay where he notched only two after posting six during his first year with the Bucs 2016.
I know what you’re thinking, Bucs fans. Wilkerson, Quinn and Bennett are all better and more productive than Ayers, William Gholston or Noah Spence, right?
Isn’t it Licht’s job to upgrade the talent, especially along the weakest unit – the defensive line?
Again, you’re correct.
So what about the secondary? Next up is the cornerback position where former Bucs, Patriots and Broncos cornerback Aqib Talib was made available via a trade from Denver to the Los Angeles Rams. The Bucs weren’t interested due to Talib’s age (he just turned 32), as there have been signs of slippage in his play, but more importantly, the salary of the five-time Pro Bowler, which is $11 million this year.
Seattle cornerback Richard Sherman, a four-time Pro Bowler, is expected to be released on Friday due to his $11 million salary in 2018. Sherman turns 30 on March 30, and is coming off a surgically repaired foot and a torn Achilles heel on his other foot.
Cardinals S Tyrann Mathieu – Photo by: Getty Images
The Bucs hope to re-sign cornerback Brent Grimes, who is a great fit in Mike Smith’s scheme, for just more than half of that amount on a one-year deal. The team has had some discussions about 2018 with Grimes, who is contemplating whether to return, sign elsewhere or retire.
Tampa Bay fans are linking Arizona safety Tyrann Mathieu to the Bucs if he gets released – the Cardinals just asked him to take a pay cut – because he was drafted when Licht was a part of that organization, and Licht did a lot of the background checks and research on him.
Licht loves Mathieu as a person and the player he was before he suffered a serious knee injury and a shoulder injury. He hasn’t been quite the same player since, and Licht needs players who can stay on the field. Besides, if the Bucs re-sign the 5-foot-9 Grimes, does Tampa Bay want a smallish secondary with the addition of a 5-foot-9 safety in Mathieu? If Mathieu were to be released by Arizona, the only way the Bucs would consider him is if he came with a very modest price tag.
The reason why Licht is showing tremendous restraint in not pursuing these discarded defensive ends (and their warts) is due to the fact that he wants the right players – not just the better-known, more sought-after free agents. He’s tried that approach before with guys like Michael Johnson, Anthony Collins, Alterraun Verner, Josh McCown, Bruce Carter, Chris Baker and T.J. Ward without much success.
The job of any general manager is to acquire the best talent for the franchise – not acquire the players that give the general manager the best chance to stick around and get a new contract extension. Quick fixes in free agency seldom work and the Bucs have tried them over the years in different regimes and been met with failures.
Alvin Harper, Bert Emanuel, Jackie Harris, Lonnie Marts, Vince Workman, Thomas Everett, Tony Stargell, George Hegamin and Michael McGruder weren’t good signings in the 1990s under Rich McKay.
Todd Steussie, Derrick Deese, Charlie Garner, Tim Brown, Bill Schroeder, Ian Gold, Patrick Chukwurah and Jerramy Stevens didn’t help the team in the 2000s under Bruce Allen.
Mike Nugent, Derrick Ward, Eric Ward, Ryan Sims, Tim Crowder, Kregg Lumpkin, Frank Okam, Niko Koutouvides and Sean Jones were bad signings in the 2010s under Mark Dominik.
So what about former Tennessee running back DeMarco Murray, who was released on Thursday?
Bucs GM Jason Licht – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR
Murray is 30 and has an injury history with ankle, hamstring and MCL injuries over his career and I think the Bucs want to invest in a younger, healthier back in free agency and then draft one or two in April to finish the depth chart.
You might say, “Well if Licht doesn’t like to sign pass rushers with eight sacks or Pro Bowl cornerbacks, what kind of players is he looking for in free agency?!”
Licht wants younger players that don’t have much of an injury history and won’t break the bank. Why? Because he and director of football administration Mike Greenberg plan on spending half of their available $71.1 million on signing wide receiver Mike Evans, middle linebacker Kwon Alexander, center-guard Ali Marpet and left tackle Donovan Smith.
The extensions likely won’t take place until after the first and second waves of free agency and after draft, and that may frustrate some fans when they see the Bucs still have $40-50 million of salary cap room remaining after the initial wave of free agency occurs. Be prepared.
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Scott Reynolds is in his 23rd year of covering the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the vice president, publisher and senior Bucs beat writer for PewterReport.com. Author of the popular SR's Fab 5 column on Fridays, Reynolds oversees web development and forges marketing partnerships for PewterReport.com in addition to his editorial duties. A graduate of Kansas State University in 1995, Reynolds enjoys giving back to the community as the defensive line coach for his sons' Pop Warner team, the South Pasco Predators. Reynolds can be reached at: [email protected]
That is a very conservative game plan for a GM whose job is on the line. We shall see.
Perfect. Nothing screws an organization over like splash moves to save a job.
Good article Scott…
I agree. Actually did a double take when I saw it was Scott who penned it. He’s easily the biggest Hot Take writer of the three on PR normally and this piece has a lot of thought and restraint put into it. Well done Scott!
BUCS PRE-FREE AGENCY MOCK DRAFT
*Free agency – Buc picks – 41.4mil
– CB Trumaine Johnson 13.6mil (Marquee free agent)
– C Ryan Jensen 8.0mil
– OG Justin Pugh 7.5mil
– SS Kenny Vacccaro 6.5mil
– RB Carlos Hyde 5.8mil
Bucs 7 round mock (Bucs trade down with Arizona)
RD1 DE Marcus Davenport 6-5 264 4.58 (pick #15)
*There’s been a lot of talk about Marcus Davenport being raw and a development project, but at every point he’s been tested he passed with flying colors. His combine performance may move him into the top ten. I’m not going to be too upset if they take him at #7 because I don’t think he gets past the Packers at #14. But in this mock we take that chance and trade down with Arizona and pick up a 2nd.
RD2 CB Isaiah Oliver/Colorado 6-0 201 4.50
*Oliver surprised me at the Combine that he did not run faster, but otherwise he is an all-around solid cover corner. The Bucs had a meeting with Oliver at the Combine.
RD2 RB Rashaad Penny/SDSU 5-11 220 4.46 (from Arizona)
*Penny is an electric back that can do it all – from inside running to catching passes from the backfield. His ST play is excellent. His pass blocking needs work but will improve in time. This pick makes a lot of sense if RB Charles Sims is not re-signed. Do not be surprised if this pick is used to trade back for RB Derrius Guice/LSU. Guice is the type of “run angry” RB that Koetter loves.
RD3 DT Nathan Shepherd/Ft Hays State 6-5 315 5.09
*Shepherd is from a D-III small school that practiced well in the Senior Bowl until a hand injury. He has all the measurables of an NFL 3 tech with pass rush ability, but he has not seen the types of players he will consistently see in the NFL. He is raw and will be considered a project but most pundits think he could be a solid Bucs pick thanks to his NFL-caliber traits.
RD4 DE/OLB Kemoko Turay/Rutgers 6-5 253 4.65
*Another raw but explosive edge rusher with the coveted traits of an NFL DE. However, he is said to be very intelligent and a quick learner. His ability to chase and tackle could translate into playing time right away. Turay got noticed at the Senior Bowl practices and had a good combine that helps his draft position.
RD5 CB/S Dane Cruikshank/Arizona 6-2 209 4.41
*Dane is another Combine phenom. He is a converted Arizona Safety that came out as a CB. Even though he has CB speed, I still think he is a safety and has the size to play in the box and the speed to play deep. He could be the eventual replacement for Chris Conte.
RD6 DE Ade Aruna/Tulane 6-5 262 4.60
*Aruna is my “sleeper” pick in this draft. He is late to big league football and has been under the radar until his explosive Combine performance. This guy can play – go watch his tape.
RD6 RB Ito Smith/So. Mississippi 5-9 201 4.50
*Ito Smith is the Tarik Cohen of 2018. He could be the second coming of Darren Sproles. He is not OJ Simpson, but he could be Judge Ito. I can hear Buc fans chanting “here come da judge” lol.
RD7 WR Marquez Valdes-Scantling/USF 6-5 206 4.37
*Why is a WR in this mock when the Bucs currently have 8 WRs on the roster? For one that’s 4 too many and Scantling is 6-5 206 that has Mike Evans measurables and RAC ability – something the Bucs are missing. Scantling had a blistering 4.37/40 with a good Combine performance. He might be gone!
*I recognize that I’m lacking D-Line help in free agency. And there’s a reason – they just aren’t out there folks! Buckner has to work his magic with draftees – tried to get him something to work with.
*The Bucs aren’t going to get OG Norwell. Pugh is a lousy RT but an excellent left guard. Josh Sitton is an equally good OG and will be cheaper, but he is 32 and Pugh is 28.
*Bucs need an experienced S next to Justin Evans. Tandy is a good guy but has no upside left. Vacarro is completely healthy now and can play strong or free.
*No jitterbugs at RB. The Bucs need a power back with good hands. Carlos Hyde can do that just never had a decent O-Line.
I tried to do a complementary draft – no favorites – just plugging holes with the talent available. Whatever the Bucs offseason plan is, it’s a well-kept secret. I have heard no rumors linking them to any players. Go Bucs!
Macabee, Can we hire you as the GM. Your list makes a lot of sense!
I would be surprised and glad if Scantling is available with next to last pick in the 7th. As they say you can’t teach speed. IMO that would be a solid draft.
Mac as usual, you are playing with my emotions here! I love these moves, like literally all of them. The draft is all guesswork as always, but at 15 getting Davenport could get much better value than him at 7. Either him or Vita, but he probably won’t be available at 15. Great mock there Mac, solid as always.,
cgmaster, I too would be happy to get Davenport or Vea at 15.
Mac, I will digest your take. Much to chew on.
Scott, Very Good article. You have brought some clarity to free agent issues. Less knowledgeable fans like me depend on PR to do some of the heavy lifting for us.
As usual your projections make perfect sense and provide enthusiasm and optimism for (speaking for myself) a rather disenchanted Buc fan. While you haven’t addressed D-line in Free agency there simply are no affordable or productive candidates available. So what you did was set our Defense on the bench and focus on ball-control which is brilliant. You have to play with what you have, what you can afford, and what is available. Excellent job, thank you.
PS Scott shows the Buc’s with $20 million to spend on new Talent while you show $41 million. According to several publications I have read your number is far more realistic. The Buc’s at this point are listed 4th highest Salary Cap in the NFL. That tells me there are not many teams in a position to compete for the top talent. Go Buc’s
Another year with a losing mentality will end with more losing. I’m starting to not care about this team period cuz it’s obvious the clowns in charge don’t. Ur worrying about signing Mike Evans and kwon so u don’t address the big issues on ur team but expect different results. The signing of chris baker and desean jackson last year were mistakes and not going after talent on the d line was stupid. The approach of we wanna sign our own guys is equally stupid because the organization will expect to win when u have the same guys here lol. So expect 5 to 6 games being losses due to the fact that we can’t get a sack on 3rd down or because our little corners who play 10 yards back will give up a 1st down. Then it will b o we were close we just need pass rushers again but we don’t wanna pay too much. The whole organization is showing that it is mentally weak by this article so I’m skipping the draft and all of it and if I am a terrible fan so be it at least I won’t feel stupid at the end of the year again like last season and the year before that and the year before that. It’s not a bucs life for me cuz I believe in winning unlike this gm, coach, owners, organization.
Maybe this was therapeutic for you. Maybe you are actually even correct. But what I do know is that you are NOT a Bucs fan!
You are entitled to your opinion but that also opens you up for comments or criticisms.
Your comment regarding not signing our own players shows your lack of knowledge of the game of football and especially of the players on this team. Maybe it’s time for you to go find another team or maybe even another sport altogether.
Best of luck
I really like the idea of pursuing Tyrann Mathieu. I wanted the bucs to draft him when he was coming out of LSU. Thanks for the article. Some of us have been frustrated this offseason so it helps to get a little reminder to just stay patient and see how things unfolds.
However, I strongly agree with one point.
“better-known, more sought-after free agents. He’s tried that approach before with guys like Michael Johnson, Anthony Collins, Alterraun Verner, Josh McCown, Bruce Carter, Chris Baker and T.J. Ward without much success.”
I honestly didn’t know who any of these guys were when we signed them except TJ and McCown and vaguely familiar with Bruce Carter. I don’t remember many people jumping up and down for these guys either, with the exception of Ward.
I will say none of these guys are A-list players and none of them are even close to the caliber of player that Talib, Bennett, Quinn, and Peters are.
I agree. In fact Chris baker WAS the unknown. The “better-known” player was Calais Campbell. who actually did perform
Yep, CC will haunt us for a while. That one was a no-brainer but it’s evident at this point Licht rarely signs stars, like Belichick. Djax being one of the few exceptions.
I remember vividly signing Anthony Collins and Michael Johnson. I hated both picks and was dead on. I’m just a couch GM too. I couldn’t even pronounce Verner’s name but the pro bowl was intriguing. Let’s be real too, Lovie had a lot to do with that haul and man was his player evaluation trash.
Just because Campbell performed great last year for the Jags doesn’t mean he would have done the same for us. In Jacksonville he is surrounded by great talent on the Dline. Here it would just be McCoy and him.
Can’t disagree with most of what you said. I’m glad we didn’t give up draft capital for the likes of Talib, and Bennett. We couldn’t win when we had those two in their prime, now fans think by bringing them back at the end of their careers we can recapture glory they couldn’t bring before, curious. What I would do that no one at P.R., or most fans wouldn’t do is explore shopping some of our own veterans. Two players I would shop are Brate, and Humphries. We spent a first rounder on a tight end, and also have Auclaire to rely on. We could move D Jax to the slot allowing Godwin to start opposite Evans. Who would you rather have on the field more, Hump, or Godwin? If you can get a second, and third rounder for two UDFA’s you’d be ahead of the game. Those picks could be used on the O, and D lines, adding young talent where needed, at a cheap price for years. If we can give up some players at a position of strength, and add to our weakness, both lines, we’d be closer to playing winning football.
Good points too bro, but the thing about having them in their primes was that we had holes at other positions that we no longer have like LB, QB, WR. The would round it out a bit more now. But I have faith in Licht.
Very good article, I say you can also free up another 6.5 mil by cutting gholston. I think we can all agree that he is one-dimensional, and in 2017 was not even that good at his one-dimension of run stuffing.
This is again one of the dumbest articles I have ever read losing mentality reward a guy for losing what sense does that make pay Evans for what leading the league in drops pay smith for what Winston running for his life pay Winston for what a league leader in turnovers paid Goldston for 0 zero sacks it’s just ridiculous the Cleveland browns of the Nfc if I’m a owner of a team you drafted a quarterback that you can’t market an he isn’t winning you drafting in the top 10 again it’s time the owners take ownership in the mistake they have made let Evans play out this year move on the same for Winston plat out next year no playoffs move on because I’m for sure they will have a new coach an general manager next an stop picking coaches that pick there friend for job Mike Smith should have been fired last year but he coming back next bad teams just do dumb stuff. ..
Think even the Cleveland Browns understand punctuation.
Learn how to compose sentences into cogent thoughts, then get back with us.
Your post reads like it’s from an elementary student who is about to fall back a grade.
Scott, Best Article of the Week!!!! I do disagree with your math because in two years which is 2020, we are going to have serious cap space issues. What happens after Winston gets his big Bucs in 2019? Lots of young players we will need to still sign in 2020 & 2021. Our team strategy should be to trade some players and acquire draft picks. No need to waste millions on older Free Agents in their downward slide. Never thought I’d say this, but I’m for trading McCoy and pick up another 2nd rounder; also Evans and get a 2nd rounder this year and a 1st next year. With that said we have control of the cap space in 2021 & on. Gholston was over paid and either let him go or insist on a cut in pay for 2018. Crazy to pay Grimes more than what he was making in 2017; he won’t get any better offers and I would insist he makes his mine up before the draft. Licht seems to be good at picking sleepers so lets give him plenty of draft picks. As an incentive I would inform both Koetter and Licht to initiate this plan and you will not be fired after this season despite the win-loss record; that’s what I would do as an Owner.
All reports indicate they didn’t pass on Quinn or Bennett. They just didn’t offer enough to encourage the other team to make the deal. Technically, free agency doesn’t start until March 14. The only free agents are guys that were outright released, like Wilkerson. He won’t sign a deal until late with someone and it will most likely be a one year prove it type of contract.
Signing a G and C is a must. If we can’t sign a C, we need to draft one because Marpet needs to move back to RG.
Follow that with a CB and RB signing, and I’d say that’s a pretty successful free agency and gives us some more flexibility for our early draft picks.
Scott , I have no problem with your take on what Licht should do this off season. My problem is the Bucs annoying habit of never spending all the money available to spend on free agents. This is why every year the Bucs have good front line players ,but limited depth. Every year Licht will fix a problem spot on the team, one D line man ,one Wide out, but ignoring other parts of the team. Last year we could have used a veteran RB , a veteran CB, a veteran O lineman. Lets wait and see what happens, but Licht better address all the holes, not some.
“, remember that Greenberg typically guarantees the first year or two of a contract and that allows an “out” for the Bucs so the team can cut a player and there is no salary cap hit when doing so.” – you can do this if you’re the Patriots but why would any top tier free agent want to consider this crappy franchise knowing that they always put all the risk on the player. No wonder we keep signing Chris Bakers. Top tier talent want some guarantees in their life. If you’re not going to share the risk, then don’t bother with free agency.
“And I’ll remind you of what McKay used to say” – Scott, we were a playoff team then, so resigning our proven great players was, well… great. This team SUCKS so resigning these player is, well, Not so great.
Most NFL teams have the game plan of trying to re-sign their own.
However, what makes the Bucs different this year?
If they sign free agents in the trenches, a RB and a DB I would be impressed. Licht has a very low bar to hurdel over, so Scott I hope you are correct that the Bucs are able to jump this low bar.
There was no in hindsight with many here on this board with regard to Campbell. It was pretty much common knowledge that Campbell finds his way to the QB, the guy has 71 sacks in his career, Swaggy Baker who is around the same age has but 12 and Gholston is terrible at placing pressure on the QB.
Uh huh… and just who are these “right” players?
Just about anybody is better than some of the roadkill we line up with
Who fault is that? GM
Solid analysis. Not sure this takes into account the numbers already on the books for Kwon,Smith & Marpet – which is $5.2 million. I’m calculating $37.3 million as the total cap hit against what’s available to sign those 3, ME (at 16.5 that he signed), and Brate+Hump at these projected amounts
@ Horse. Right now we have about $35 mill+ in what I’d call older dude / expendable dude contracts that won’t likely be on our books in 2-3 years:
McCoy – $13 mill
Djax – $11 mill
Dotson – $4.6 mill
Conte – $2.8 mill
Joe Hawley (currently counting against cap?) – $2.65 mill
Jaquiz Rodgers – $1.6 mill
That’s not counting Robert Ayers/ Sweezy – who = $13.125 mill currently hitting our cap.
So even if we keep Sweezy/Ayers on the books in 2018 – per my math we could sign all the guys mentioned here for $37 mill; + $10 mill for rookies and in-season signings ($4 mill seems like a lot though for random in-season signings but whatever).
That’s $24 mill left over in space. In the next 2 years the cap will go up a total of like $20 million; and those cuts above including Sweezy & Ayers would equate to $48 million in savings – or $68 million in flexibility.
Don’t forget Winston yearly contract will average somewhere between 25- 35 million?
Robert Quinn is 27 and in his prime. His 11 million salary is actually below market value for his production. He is a building block. The other guys I agree with on your take. Licht struck out big time on Quinn, plain and simple. We will all be wishing licht pulled the trigger when Quinn tears it up this year and until he really gets old
The issue with Licht’s perennial approach of signing depth FAs, to replace last year’s depth FA busts, and adding 1 (or maybe 2) upgrades in the draft, is that we largely trot out the same team that wasn’t good enough the year before. The only way this cycle breaks is if he somehow hits the greatest draft in league history, otherwise we don’t really get any better giving the same players to the same coaches. I get that he’s missed badly when trying to acquire vets before (FA or trades), but maybe that’s his bad luck and not all veterans? I would have taken Robert Quinn for a 4th and 5th…those draftees are not going to be much anyway.
It’s sobering to go through the cap consequences of Evans and Winston and a few others and how it will limit our FA flexibility this year and next. That’s when the compounding damage to the roster from Licht’s many mistakes really shows. We just don’t have enough quality affordable players from his drafts to stitch together a strong overall team with the depth required these days between the upcoming draft and FA.
I’m a Bucs fan through and through but it’s getting hard to pretend we’re going anywhere under the current regime. We’ll have a new GM and most likely a new coach this time next year but what we need most (although JL absolutely must go) is new ownership.
Yeah, I’m sorry…did you just compare Quinn, Bennett, and Talib to the no-name free agents Licht usually signs? There’s a reason why Licht is five years in and has zero playoff appearances.
Also, I love how you conveniently forget how much Simeon Rice and the rest of that initial Gruden FA class helped the team. They had a chance to get Simeon 2 and blew it. This team is entering its prime, it was time to add a big piece or two to lift it over the top (& McCoy knows it). Plus, the changing of attitude that McCoy brought up, basically begging for veteran leadership that has won before. These kids haven’t, and it shows.
Y’all we just need to face it… Tampa doesn’t want to win. They acting like we are already a playoff team by not signing anything. I love my team but I really hate our gmail. Same garbage offensive and defensive line….
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