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SR’s Fab 5 is a collection of inside scoop, analysis and insight from yours truly, PewterReport.com publisher and Bucs beat writer Scott Reynolds. Here are a few things that caught my attention this week at One Buc Place and around the NFL.

FAB 1. Bucs Are Hardly A Bad Ass Football Team

On April 29, 2017, Bucs head coach Dirk Koetter was asked what kind of identity he wanted for his football team.

“A bad ass football team,” Koetter said.

Since going 9-7 in 2016, Koetter’s first season as Tampa Bay’s head coach, the Bucs are hardly bad ass. They are 8-17.

Instead of being bad ass, they just stink like … well, you know.

We are two and a half years into Koetter’s regime and four and a half years into Jason Licht’s reign as general manager and the culture hasn’t changed. The Bucs are still losers, and they have a loser’s mindset.

I am not personally attacking the players or suggesting they can’t play in the league. I’m simply looking at the team’s record, which is the ultimate judge of what a player playing the ultimate team sport is.

The Buccaneers accept defeat too easily.

Oh, the Bucs battle. They fight back. They don’t give up.

They lost four games by three points in 2017 and three more by less than a touchdown. This year, Tampa Bay has lost two games by three points and another one by five. Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.

The Bucs don’t do enough to win – often enough.

I walked into the locker room on Sunday following Tampa Bay’s 16-3 loss to Washington as the team simply melted down time and again in the red zone. The locker room was quiet. The players were dejected.

It was a picture of the culture of losing. It was a scene of players accepting defeat.

It was Gerald McCoy, who has been in this position for the better part of nine years, struggling to find the right words to say.

It was Demar Dotson, who has been here one year longer than McCoy, saying the same sad refrain of the Bucs “shooting themselves in the foot.”

The veterans certainly suffer from HWGA syndrome.

Here We Go Again.

Against the Redskins, the Bucs were beating themselves with turnovers (again) and allowing the enemy to score first and get a lead and have to play catch-up (again).

Licht has tried to change the culture, bringing in players from Super Bowl teams like Clinton McDonald in 2014 and Jason Pierre-Paul, Beau Allen and Vinny Curry this season. The problem is that they are outnumbered. There are far more Buccaneers in the locker room that haven’t made it to the playoffs – let alone a Super Bowl.

The vast majority of these players simply don’t know how to win and they accept losing too easily.

Bucs LT Donovan Smith - Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

Bucs LT Donovan Smith – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

The Buccaneers locker room is too subdued too often. The players are resigned to losing.

There are five stages of grief in the Kubler-Ross psychological defense model – denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. It seems like the Bucs just skip the first three stages and go right to depression and acceptance.

I’d like to see more anger. Not finger-pointing or locker room fights, but just sheer anger.

The kind of anger that Warren Sapp and Derrick Brooks felt before the San Diego game in 1996 when they roomed together and watched Chris Berman call them the Yuck-aneers on the ESPN pre-game show. The Chargers took an early 14-0 lead in San Diego, which would have been the cue for the Yuck-aneers to fold and embrace the HWGA Syndrome.

Only the Yuck-aneers didn’t show up. The “original bad ass Buccaneers” did, coming back from 14 points down to win 25-17. That win was the turning point for a Tampa Bay team that shook off a 1-9 start and finished 5-2 down the stretch.

It turns out that was the best 6-10 team in Bucs history as they used that season to go 10-6 the next year and notch a Wild Card playoff win over Detroit.

Tampa Bay fans have been waiting for a similar scene to unfold for more than a decade now (sorry, the smoke-and-mirrors 10-6 season in 2010 doesn’t count). There needs to be some anger. There needs to be some resolve.

This woe-is-me, I’m-in-disbelief-again crap isn’t cutting it.

The Bucs need a serious attitude adjustment and I’m not sure Koetter is the guy that can make that happen. Not when he has the same befuddled look on his face in his post-game press conferences as his players do.

Bucs QB Jameis Winston - Photo by: Getty Images

Bucs QB Jameis Winston – Photo by: Getty Images

I remember getting excited about Jameis Winston’s post-game press conference following a 38-10 loss at Carolina in the 2015 season finale. That was Lovie Smith’s last game as head coach and Winston called out some of his teammates.

“We’re going to create a winning mindset – a mindset that you will never give up,” Winston said at the podium with a look of defiance. “A relentless mindset of being able to persevere over adversity.”

Then Winston implied that the Bucs’ culture needed to change.

“I guarantee (there are) some of our coaches that want it more than some of our players, and that’s the bad part,” Winston said. “That’s the bad part. Our coaches want it. They want it. They’re up there working hours and don’t even get to see their families. … I know our coaches want it. We need to get our guys to put in the work like our coaches put in.”

Where did that edge from Winston go? I liked the edgy Winston better than they smiling, W-eating Winston we’ve seen the last couple of years, didn’t you?

Following a loss to Cleveland that left the Bucs 1-7 in 2014, McCoy said: “Every time the game is over we sit here and say, ‘Oh, they made a play, we didn’t. When are we going to get tired of that? I’ve been dealing with this for five years, I’m tired of it … you’ve got to get tired of losing, man.”

I suppose McCoy is still tired of it after nine years, but yet where are the game-altering, fourth quarter sack-fumbles? McCoy gets enough sacks to make six Pro Bowls, but not enough important ones to win more than six games a season, which is the average number of games the Bucs have won per year since he was drafted by Tampa Bay in 2010.

The Bucs simply need to learn to not tolerate losing.

Bucs MLB Adarius Taylor - Photo by: Mary Holt/PR

Bucs MLB Adarius Taylor – Photo by: Mary Holt/PR

Look at Bill Belichick, the NFL’s greatest head coach of all time. He simply doesn’t tolerate losing. That’s the standard. If you want to change the culture in Tampa Bay you have to make losing unacceptable.

That hasn’t been the case for far too long at One Buccaneer Place. Win or lose, the players get paid the same. Win or lose, they still play ping-pong and shoot hoops in the locker room. Win or lose, they still give up sacks and keep their starting jobs. Win or lose, they still miss tackles and give up touchdowns and keep their starting jobs.

Yes, in one sense, football is a child’s game – except that it isn’t on a professional level. These are paid professionals who are paid to win games – not just play in games. Too many losses and then players, coaches and general managers lose their jobs and have to uproot their families and move to a different city.

Win or lose, moms and dads don’t mind paying $5 at the gate to see little Johnny play Pop Warner football. But hard-working Tampa Bay families that plunk down $1,000 per season ticket to sit in Raymond-James Stadium roasting in the sun don’t want to watch the Bucs play football.

They pay money to see the Bucs win.

This is real. This is serious.

Maybe Koetter should slip a little bit of Sun Tzu’s “Art of War” wisdom in the Bucs’ playbooks.

“The art of war is of vital importance to the State. It is a matter of life and death, a road either to safety or to ruin. Hence it is a subject of inquiry which can on no account be neglected.” – Sun Tzu 544-496 BC

Football isn’t war, but it really isn’t a mere game, either – not at the professional level. This is about winning and losing. Win, and you get to keep your job and get a contract extension. Lose, and people lose their jobs – their livelihoods.

Bucs WR DeSean Jackson - Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

Bucs WR DeSean Jackson – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

It’s time for the Bucs to get angry and get serious about winning.

I’ll be honest. I didn’t know what to think about DeSean Jackson last year. Now, I love the guy. He hates losing. He hates losing more than he likes winning. He hates losing so much he wanted out of Tampa Bay – and I don’t blame the guy.

The fact that he said that he now wants to stay in Tampa Bay and retire as a Buccaneer makes me respect him even more. He wants to be part of the solution. He wants to win.

I want more guys like him on this team that get pissed off and don’t accept losing.

The Bucs need to find more players that hate losing more than they like winning. Every year there are free agents that come from better teams and players that get drafted from winning programs, but they get to Tampa Bay and get sucked into the losing culture vortex and they learn to accept losing.

This underachieving team is a lot closer to being stank ass than it is bad ass, and that’s a fact – a 3-6 fact.

If you are a Tampa Bay player, coach or general manager and you are reading this – show us that you aren’t a loser.

Win. A. Game.

Then another one. And another.

Until then, you’re a loser – and you’ve lost five of your last six games, including three in a row.

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About the Author: Scott Reynolds

Scott Reynolds is in his 25th year of covering the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the vice president, publisher and senior Bucs beat writer for PewterReport.com. Author of the popular SR's Fab 5 column on Fridays, Reynolds oversees web development and forges marketing partnerships for PewterReport.com in addition to his editorial duties. A graduate of Kansas State University in 1995, Reynolds spent six years giving back to the community as the defensive line coach for his sons' Pop Warner team, the South Pasco Predators. Reynolds can be reached at: sr@pewterreport.com
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Pete Wood
2 years ago

Good article. I agree with you about the need for an attitude shift. I am convinced that the reason the Boston Red Sox finally broke the curse and won the world series in 2004 was because of David Ortiz. He believed they’d win, even when down three games to none against the Yankees. Contrast that with reliever Calvin Schiraldi in 1986 who looked that he thought the Sox would lose in game six before he threw the first pitch. I have to quibble with only naming two wrs and one tight end Bucs should keep. I would add Brate, Watson,… Read more »

Andy Ely
2 years ago

What I gather from this, is we need to get rid of McCoy and Demar Dotson, and start plucking guys who come from winning cultures. Fill the middle of our roster from guys from Green Bay, New Orleans, Pittsburgh, New England, Los Angeles, Seattle, and Minnesota. Then draft guys out of Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, Oklahoma, and Georgia. That way we can infuse this team with guys who are used to winning and winning often. That will raise the morale and ultimately the talent level on this team. Guys who do not accept losing as a culture.

Naplesfan
Reply to  Andy Ely
2 years ago

We’ve been doing that, or rather, Licht has, but it still didn’t work. Licht added two members of Philly’s winning culture from last year to our team. A handful of other free agents were signed from other winning teams like the Packers and Seahawks (who won a lot of games before this season, at least). Most of the people we draft come from college teams with winning records. Just like every other NFL team does.

If that was all it took, the Bucs would be winners by now.

Something(s) obviously are still lacking beyond players who are used to winning.

Andy Ely
Reply to  Naplesfan
2 years ago

I get that, but you cant expect to add 1 or 2 guys to a 53 man roster and expect the entire culture to change. Think if we got rid of guys creating cap space and then we added 8-10 guys, then drafted 5-6 more guys who make the roster. So you infuse the team with 13-16 guys. That is a huge difference, compared to the like 4-6 guys. Also getting rid of the guys who have just been around this losing culture for too long, and stop giving Chris Conte contract extensions.

wnb0395
Reply to  Andy Ely
2 years ago

Kind of like what Jon Gruden is doing in Oakland.

JohnGaltsGhost
Reply to  Andy Ely
2 years ago

A winning culture comes from the top. It’s the head coach the creates a winning culture not the players. The LA Rams we’re losers for a decade-and-a-half in comes a new coach and of the best team in the NFC. Chicago had a losing culture for the last decade, new coach leading the division. San Fran have been a bottom dweller for a decade before Harbaugh showed up. If you want to change the culture you got to do it from the top down

liquidmuse3
Reply to  Naplesfan
2 years ago

But they were both scrubs.

Naplesfan
2 years ago

I am skeptical that attitude creates losing … it’s usually the opposite, that losing creates attitude. Also, the canard that “this team doesn’t know how to win” is pretty silly but refuses die as it should. There is no such thing as “learning how to win” – either your team has better players and/better coaches and wins because it is better than its opponents, and makes more plays when they matter the most, or not. No current member of the Bucs roster should be extended until after the new regime takes over. Don’t saddle any new GM or head coach… Read more »

Pete Wood
Reply to  Naplesfan
2 years ago

I dunno. I think attitude had a lot to do with the Patriots beating the Falcons in the Superbowl. Teams that believe in themselves can pull off miracles sometimes.

Naplesfan
Reply to  Pete Wood
2 years ago

Fans and media writer can never know the attitude of individual players, on the huddle, and lined up on either side of the ball, or in the locker room, let alone some sort of amorphous impossible to identify or quantify “team attitude”.

All we can do is watch the results and then some fans invent reasons in their minds for why they happened. It’s nothing but projection, not knowledge, when it comes to player attitudes.

Crook
Reply to  Naplesfan
2 years ago

Naplesfan..you are nuts if you think all it takes is more talent to win consistently in the NFL. Without looking it up, could you name me 3 starters on the Steelers defense right now? On New England’s defense? There is a culture that an organization creates from the top down and it ABSOLUTELY makes a difference. I’m not saying we have great talent on defense (we don’t)…and I’m not saying that Brady and Rothleisberger in my examples above don’t make a big difference (they do). I’m just saying that a losing culture, which we have right now in Tampa, does… Read more »

Naplesfan
Reply to  Crook
2 years ago

I never used the word “talent”, you did. I used the words, “better players and better coaches … and better team … and players who who make more plays.”

The best players aren’t necessarily the most talented, extremely talented players bust all the time, we all know that. Attitude, work ethic, intelligence, coachability, character, all of those attributes that are at least as important as talent in making “better players … who make more plays”.

Talent is highly overrated.

drdneast
2 years ago

Every unit of the team needs a strong vocal alpha leader like the Bucs had during their Glory years; For the DL it was Sapp. For the LB’s it was Brooks. For the DB’s it was Lynch and Barber. The reason the offense was always mired in mediocrity was because it didn’t have any strong personalities like that except for the jerk WR Keyshawn Johnson. Ask yourself, would you let Gerald McCoy lead you anywhere except to an ice cream shop. Well he was the team’s so called leader until this year. Egads. No wonder this team is mired in… Read more »

DrT1066
2 years ago

Trade for or draft a better left tackle and move Donovan smith to Wright tackle

Devasher
2 years ago

“Not as many as you thought, right? This team is not as talented as it appeared back in July, is it?” ::::raises hand::::: The idea that a ‘winner’s mentality’ will make bad players like the Caleb Benenoch and Ryan Smith’s of the world magically learn how to play good NFL football is a pipe dream. I’m sure Bill Belichick hated losing just as much in Cleveland as he did in New England but guess what? One of the greatest coaches of all time went 36-44 in 5 years as the HC there. All but one season ended with 5-7 wins… Read more »

cgmaster27
Reply to  Devasher
2 years ago

Good points devasher but you seem to forget the last two super bowls the Patriots won. They were NOT the most talented team on the field. Not even close. Attitude and want to is just as important as talent. Those Patriots teams were not as talented as Atlanta and Seattle when they played. They just have a winning mind set a great qb, and a great coach. Watch that upset over the falcons. Edleman was constantly saying they were coming back. I believe his words were, “this is going to make a great story guys”. You think the bucs have… Read more »

Devasher
Reply to  cgmaster27
2 years ago

Your examples are from two teams that both literally made the Super Bowl out a 32 team league. Should a ’91’ overall talent should beat a team with ’90’ overall talent 100 times out of 100? Of course not. There are always variables that go into a win or a loss if the talent is close enough. Obviously one example is that Seattle beats New England if they run the ball at the goal line, that was a poor play call that takes away a victory. However the two teams were both very good, talented and the game was capable… Read more »

Naplesfan
Reply to  Devasher
2 years ago

Better players are not necessarily the most talented, and quite frequently the best players are not the most talented at their respective positions. Nobody thought Tom Brady was the most talented quarterback in the draft when he went in the sixth round. Tom Brady has the whole package … enough talent to get by, lots of intelligence, lots of warrior mentality and toughness and character, lots of coachability. Ditto with Brett Favre, who was a mere second round draft pick … ditto with Drew Brees, also a second rounder. Draft position is almost exclusively determined by perceived talent … and… Read more »

Devasher
Reply to  Naplesfan
2 years ago

Let’s start with the fact that a first round pick is significantly more likely to make the Pro Bowl than any other round of the draft. Quick, name the three best Buccaneers of all time…would you by chance come up with Lee Roy Selmon, Warren Sapp and Derrick Brooks? All first round picks with Selmon being first overall. The best player on the current roster is Mike Evans, a first round 7th overall selection. You can check wikipedia of any draft’s player selections and you’ll find that first round picks are the heavy majority of all Pro Bowlers. An example… Read more »

Devasher
Reply to  Naplesfan
2 years ago

Let’s start with the fact that a first round pick is significantly more likely to make the Pro Bowl than any other round of the draft. Quick, name the three best Buccaneers of all time…would you by chance come up with Lee Roy Selmon, Warren Sapp and Derrick Brooks? All first round picks with Selmon being first overall. The best player on the current roster is Mike Evans, a first round 7th overall selection. You can check wikipedia of any draft’s player selections and you’ll find that first round picks are the heavy majority of all Pro Bowlers. An example… Read more »

Devasher
Reply to  Scott Reynolds
2 years ago

Ronde Barber is one of the best Bucs of all time, a model of consistency (after his rookie year) and someone who would never miss a game. At the same rate his identical twin brother Tiki was taken in the first round that year at the running back position and ended up with over 10.7k career rushing yards putting him 27th overall in all-time rushing. When your identical twin has the athletic ability to become an all-time leading rusher at RB, something probably says that you should also have some of those same athletic genes even if your 40 was… Read more »

Horse
2 years ago

I think the keep list is several more than who you stated Scott. I am sticking to the money ball tactics; if Coaches, Scouts, GM don’t perform; move them on quickly. It is about winning and having leaders in all areas of the Buc Organization. It starts at the top and the Glazer’s aren’t leaders; they may make lots of money, but it doesn’t mean they can lead. Only a few Owners have shown they can lead. They have to step aside and let an experience President of Operations run this show. We need change in the whole organization. Change… Read more »

Horse
Reply to  Scott Reynolds
2 years ago

Scott, what I am trying to say is that the glazers need to stay out of it. if they don’t want to make any other decisions than a president of operations would allow that to happen. You’re right if the Glazers want to stay involved with picking a GM and reporting to them directly.

cobraboy
2 years ago

I disagree about Lavonte David being untouchable. He’s been part of the losing culture and a key member in the worst defense in Bucs’ history, or even in NFL history. He’s yesterday’s news, and the Bucs could use the cap space trading him would provide.

I would NOT sign Alexander to another contract. Trade or cut him.

surferdudes
2 years ago

Agree David needs to go. Now he’s captain loser having taken the title from McCoy. They both need to go. Un fortunate for Kwon getting hurt, but a new regime might want to go in a different direction.

chefboho
2 years ago

Well after seeing this and believing in the guys you listed to keep, if they blow this team up for a new coach, he would have a ton of cap space to play with. With all the cuts you mentioned including Winston and his 21 million, that’s over 72 million in cap space not counting what we still ha e available. I agree this team accepts loosing and I see it on the field week in, and week out. 1st and goal, usually a penalty, second down a sack or dropped pass, etc. you get the point. We can only… Read more »

chefboho
Reply to  chefboho
2 years ago

Also I must say, as much as I appreciate McCoy, the person, and the athlete, I won’t miss his “hey guys, we are here to have fun” speech when we’re down by twenty. I don’t want to hear that shit from a supposed captain

Horse
2 years ago

I hope someone from the Owner arena reads Pewter Report.
The marketing of this team needs changing. You can’t sell tickets for these prices when the product isn’t there. Reduce ticket prices on everything by 15%. Grow a new fan base by giving kids/young adults (22 and under) an additional 15% discount (definitely different color ticket and must show ID of some sort).

Dman
Reply to  Horse
2 years ago

And let’s not forget $9.00 for a Coke! Ridiculous!

scubog
Reply to  Horse
2 years ago

If you haven’t noticed; many Season Pass Members (especially the east side) purchase the tickets only to sell them at a profit to the opponent. That’s part of the “losing culture” that extends to our increasingly apathetic fan base. When a third of the supposedly loyal fans don’t choose to go to the game to cheer on their team because losing is expected the players have to see that and be affected by it. It’s like when as a kid you’re in the Christmas play and your parents don’t show up. Might that not affect your psyche? Of course it… Read more »

EricNV
2 years ago

Good points all over the place in this article, Scott. I thought Kevin Pamphile had a horrible 2017, of course, but I also thought he had been very solid in the 2016 campaign. I would only disagree concerning the statement you made concerning the execution of the game plan not being Koetter’s fault. It seems our game planning has been awful most of the season, and last Sunday’s was no exception. It seems other teams are better at adjusting their game plans when it becomes evident in the 1st quarter that the plays being called just won’t work. If we… Read more »

EricNV
Reply to  EricNV
2 years ago

(hit the post button before I was finished with my last point)…wise to try and hold on to Buckner and Monken, but it’s ultimately up to the new GM and new HC to make that call.

sunshineben
Reply to  EricNV
2 years ago

what has Buckner done ? def line not scaring anyone

GrayBalls
Reply to  sunshineben
2 years ago

That’s not all on the defensive line coach. All Buckner can do is coach his players up to the scheme provided. When exotic looks are called the d line is up to task. Let’s look at one player, in particular, Pierre-Paul. He’s been good the last several years, but this season he looks much closer to the form that showed his best personal season, statistically. I like Duff, but the linebacker unit, as a whole, has looked lost and out of place. This hurts defensive line play. The secondary has a ton of blown assignments, this hurts defensive line play.… Read more »

owlykat
2 years ago

Scott, one of your best articles ever. And you are right about both Warhop and Turnstyle D. Smith. Here is how to change the culture of losing: Tony Dungy is the only Coach who changed the Bucs Culture to a Winning Culture in Buc’s History and he did it in six months and without a wholesale turnover in the existing roster. At first they lost every game for six months but then they won the last seven games in a row and continued winning during his regular seasons until he was fired. He inherited a good offensive line that his… Read more »

Dman
2 years ago

As others have posted, I’m hoping the Glazers are active subscribers of Pewter Report!

As the paying fan base, it would be helpful of they were reading where we stand. As much as we “like” some of the current players and coaches, we pay to watch the team win. The current group are not winners. Not worth trying to dissect this.

I watch every week. I’m on PR throughout every week. I’m a die hard. But we deserve ownership make the changes that are needed – and to get a start on that sooner than later. I’m thinking Monday.

Horse
Reply to  Scott Reynolds
2 years ago

Scott, I would be second-guessing it too if I was the Owner and/or who helped me in the selection process.

Dman
Reply to  Scott Reynolds
2 years ago

Thanks, Scott. And it sounds more and more like they need a VP of Football Operations. Many of us have pined for Tony to come back in that role. Most of the time those kinds of things don’t work out, but I think we need someone that can right the Pirate Ship.

nybuccguy
2 years ago

Donovan Smith is not a good LT. Signing him long term will be a disaster. He has well documented issues with motivation and a huge pay day will only cause a decline in his sub standard play.

Horse
Reply to  nybuccguy
2 years ago

As far as I know Donovan Smith is motivated and doing his best. I’m wondering if he lost 10 lb and reshaped his body a little bit he might be okay at left tackle. I hope we don’t make the Donald Penn mistake again?

Bucsfan1983
2 years ago

Agree, Donovan Smith shouldn’t get an extension. At least not a big one. I’d actually like to draft a LT in the first two rounds, and move Donovan to RT.

draft pick/Marpet/Jensen/Cappa?/D Smith

Horse
Reply to  Bucsfan1983
2 years ago

There are so many other areas we need to address besides left tackle. I think we can sign D Smith for a reasonable price.
Maybe we can redo Dotson contract for a little less knowing it’s going to be tough for him to play all 16 games. We still need to upgrade CB, DE, either left or right guard depending where Marpet plays, and find another QB in the early rounds if we can’t sign Winston to a reasonable contract based on if we actually decide to keep him.

owlykat
2 years ago

The problem I see with moving D. Smith to RT is any good DC in the NFL will just move their speed rusher to Face D. Smith on his right side and will just Zoom Around Turnstyle Smith in a nano second and drag down our QB or ball carrier.

BucRy
2 years ago

Donovan Smith will leave the bucs and turn into an all pro.

Great article though.

Horse
Reply to  Scott Reynolds
2 years ago

Scott, it was a good article and you did your homework. I do appreciate it even though I don’t always agree with every single point; most times I do.
Thank you again.

scubog
2 years ago

Ever think the O-line and whipping boy, Donovan Smith might give up more sacks and our QB’s more INT’s because Koetter and Monken do nothing but pass, pass, pass with only a token run here and there? Think the Red Zone struggles just might have something to do with the opponent knowing a pass is coming?

Culture Change or Winning?, Winning or Culture Change?………….Egg or Chicken?

So, what/who can ignite the fire that was extinguished that night the Colts came back from 35-14 to defeat the reigning Super Bowl Champions? Hmmmmmm

bueller
2 years ago

Bill Polian said that Donovan Smith was a guard not a tackle. It is like Mark Barron at Safety all over again. My God he would be a dominant guard. Davins Joseph was a pro bowl guard. Not sure if he could have played tackle long term.

White Tiger
2 years ago

Well Scott, we’ll be well-positioned for the next Donavan Smith…or one of similar talent (but perhaps with better motivation). …and this whole argument sounds achingly familiar to what I was said would happen 4 years ago when we drafted the next, ex-franchise QB of the future…the owners couldn’t spot character if it were wrapped in $100 bills and covered in gold (…well, to be fair, they’d probably spot the packaging). This team’s low estimation of character is likely a reflection of the ownership’s commitment to it. The integration of toughness & rigid commitment to only adding character to this organization… Read more »

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