FAB 2. AP And Other Free Agent RBs The Bucs Should Pursue

Coaching alone isn’t going to make Tampa Bay’s ground game much better in 2019. Peyton Barber had the best year of his career with 871 yards and five touchdowns last season, but his pedestrian 3.7 yards per carry average shows why he was an undrafted free agent and more like Earnest Graham than either Warrick Dunn or Mike Alstott.

Barber has solid vision, a nice jump-cut and good tackle-breaking ability, and he may become a 1,000-yard back with better blocking upfront from Tampa Bay’s offensive line. Yet there was a reason why Bucs general manager Jason Licht spent a second-round draft pick last year on Ronald Jones. Tampa Bay’s offense needs more explosive runs and the backfield needed more speed than Barber offers.

Bucs RB Peyton Barber
Bucs RB Peyton Barber – Photo by: Mary Holt/PR

Following a diastrous and disappointing rookie season from Jones, Licht and new head coach Bruce Arians could very well draft another running back to challenge Jones for not only carries but a roster spot in 2019, but the Bucs might be better off saving a draft pick to help other areas of need and turn to free agency for veteran help at the position instead.

The Big Takeaway
By addressing the running back position in free agency, the Bucs wouldn’t have to use a draft pick on another runner this year with the hope that Jones can develop within the next year or two. With only six picks available right now, signing a proven rusher might make more sense, and there are some good players available that make sense for the Bucs.

And no, I’m not talking about Le’Veon Bell.

He’s a fine player, but I don’t see what the appeal is for the $14 million that Bell thinks he worth, especially at age 27. Maybe for some NFL teams, but not for the salary cap-strapped Bucs right now.

Bell, who hasn’t rushed for 1,300 or more in an NFL season nor scored 10 or more rushing touchdowns, has played in all 16 games in a season just once (2014) in his six years in the league, and is coming off a year in 2017 in which he averaged a modest 4.0 yards per carry. Remember, he sat out of football all last season in a contract dispute with Pittsburgh.

Bell’s appeal is that he is a complete back, evidenced by his career-high 85 catches in 2017, but he only averaged 7.7 yards per catch while producing 655 yards and two touchdowns. Bell’s longest play from scrimmage over the last three years was a 42-yard run back in the 2015.

There are some cheaper alternatives out there that could value to the Bucs’ backfield. Let’s start with the most recognizable name first.

Redskins RB Adrian Peterson
Licht has been opposed to signing Peterson in the past, having every opportunity in the world to do so prior to the 2017 season when the future Hall of Famer stated his desire to play in Tampa Bay. Instead, Peterson signed with the Saints and was seldom used before being traded to Arizona where he helped Arians and the Cardinals defeat the Bucs, 38-33, after rushing for 134 yards on 26 carries (5.2 avg.) during the 2017 seasons. Peterson rushed for 448 yards and two touchdowns on 129 carries (3.5 avg.) in Arians’ last year in Arizona before signing with Washington last season.

Ex-Cardinals RB Adrian Peterson - Photo by: Getty Images
Ex-Cardinals RB Adrian Peterson – Photo by: Getty Images

At age 33, Peterson recorded his eighth 1,000-yard season, starting all 16 games for the first time since 2015 and finishing with 1,042 yards and seven touchdowns on 251 carries (4.2 avg.). Peterson also had three 100-yard games and three more with at least 95 yards. He also had a 90-yard touchdown run against Philadelphia last year, which was the longest run of his illustrious 12-year NFL career. Peterson also caught 20 passes for 208 yards (10.4 avg.) and one touchdown, and had a 52-yard reception last season, which was the third-longest of his career.

The Redskins have expressed an interest in re-signing Peterson, who made $1.015 million last year, and will likely have to pay more to keep him in 2019 after his 1,000-yard season, which was his first since his 2015 season in Minnesota. Could Arians convince Peterson, who has said he wants to return to the Redskins, to come to Tampa Bay this year? More importantly, can Arians convince Licht to sign Peterson, who turns 34 in March, for the 2019 season?

The proven veteran would do wonders for young players like Jones and Barber – not to mention quarterback Jameis Winston and some of the other young stars on Tampa Bay’s offense – by being a great lead-by-example role model in the locker room and on the practice field. If he could be had for no more than $3 million in 2019, Peterson would also add enhance the Bucs’ appeal to the national media and generate some buzz at the ticket office due to his legendary career achievements.

Atlanta RB Tevin Coleman
Coleman has been a complementary back alongside Devonta Freeman in Atlanta since being a third-round pick in 2015, rushing for 2,340 yards and 18 touchdowns on 528 carries (4.4 avg.) in his four-year Falcons career. With Freeman injured for most of the year, Coleman came through with career numbers in his contract year in 2018, which should only help his market value in free agency. Playing in all 16 games for the first time in his career, Coleman rushed for 800 yards and four touchdowns on 167 carries (4.8 avg.) last year, in addition to catching 32 passes for 276 yards (8.6) and five touchdowns.

Coleman has exceled as a third-down back in Atlanta, catching 92 passes for 1,011 yards (10.1 avg.) and 11 TDs. At 6-foot-1, 210 pounds, his speed and receiving ability are reminiscent of that of Johnson’s in Arizona, which could entice Arians and Licht to pursue the division foe. Coleman has been a bit of a Buc killer in his time with the Falcons. Last year he had eight carries for 45 yards (5.6 avg.) and a 23-yard touchdown in a 34-32 victory in Week 17. Earlier in the year, Coleman had 10 carries for 35 yards (3.5 avg.) with a 6-yard touchdown catch in a 34-29 victory at Atlanta.

Falcons RB Tevin Coleman
Falcons RB Tevin Coleman – Photo by: Getty Images

In 2017, Coleman, who is only 25 years old, rushed for 97 yards and two touchdowns on 19 carries (5.1 avg.) in a 34-20 win on MNF. The year prior, Coleman played the Bucs once and had eight carries for 22 yards (2.8 avg.) to go along with five catches for 95 yards (19.0 avg.) in 31-24 loss to Tampa Bay on opening day.

After fumbling three times as a rookie, Coleman has fumbled just four times over the last 531 touches with none of those resulting in a turnover. That will help increase his free agent value, which is said to be $5 million per season, according to Spotrac.com. Needing to allocate salary cap resources elsewhere, Atlanta will not pursue a contract extension with Coleman, thus making him one of the more sought-after running backs in free agency.

New Orleans RB Mark Ingram
Coleman isn’t the only NFC South running back the Bucs could target in free agency. Ingram, the Saints’ lead running back the last eight years, might be a decent pick-up for the Bucs at the right price. Ingram’s problem is that he just turned 29 years old and is on the downside of his career. He’s a good, but not great running back, who has only had two 1,000-yard seasons in his eight years in New Orleans.

After rushing for 1,124 yards and 12 touchdowns in 2017, Ingram lost a lot of carries to Pro Bowler Alvin Kamara, the team’s third-round pick in ’17. Kamara will be the feature back in New Orleans as the Saints are expected to move on from Ingram, who has rushed for 6,007 yards and scored 50 rushing touchdowns in gold and black, this offseason.

Saints RB Mark Ingram and Bucs LB Lavonte David - Photo by: Getty Images
Saints RB Mark Ingram and Bucs LB Lavonte David – Photo by: Getty Images

Ingram is coming off a good season in which he rushed for 645 yards and six touchdowns on 138 carries (4.7 avg.), in addition to catching 21 passes for 170 yards (8.1 avg.) and one TD. Blessed with great hands, Ingram averaged 51 receptions for 380 yards (7.5 avg.) and one touchdown as a receiver out of the backfield from 2015-17.

Ingram would bring starting experience to the running back position in Tampa Bay, and at the very least, would make a great complement to Barber and Jones in the Bucs’ backfield and be a reliable target in the passing game on third downs. Spotrac.com projects Ingram’s market value at $4.4 million per year with a two-year deal given his age.

Jacksonville RB T.J. Yeldon
At 6-foot-2, 223 pounds, Yeldon is a bigger back, but is more of a slashing, finesse runner than he is powerful, tackle-breaker. He has rushed for 1,872 yards and six touchdowns on 465 carries (4.0 avg.) since entering the league as a second-round pick, with his best season coming as a rookie in 2015 with 740 yards and two TDs on 182 carries (4.1 avg.).

Where Yeldon would add value is as a pass-catching runner with 171 career catches for 1,302 yards (7.6 avg.) and six scores. Although Yeldon only rushed for 414 yards and one touchdown on 104 carries (4.0 avg.) last year in Jacksonville, he had a career-high 55 receptions for 487 yards (8.9 avg.) with four scores through the air.

Jaguars RB T.J. Yeldon
Jaguars RB T.J. Yeldon – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

The Jaguars will be moving on from Yeldon, who was publicly lambasted by team president Tom Coughlin after he and fellow running back Leonard Fournette were seen not paying attention on the sideline during a loss to Houston last December. “I am disappointed in the behavior today from T.J. Yeldon and Leonard Fournette. They were disrespectful, selfish and their behavior was unbecoming that of a professional football player,” Coughlin said after the game. Perhaps a fresh start elsewhere will allow Yeldon to mature and reach his full potential.

The 25-year old Yeldon could be a good value signing for the Bucs, and be viewed as a cheaper version of Coleman, and a bigger, better version of Tampa Bay’s former third-down back Charles Sims. Yeldon made $1,241,421 in the final year of his rookie contract in Jacksonville. Given his modest production as a runner and the fact that there is a decent crop of running backs in this year’s draft, Yeldon could likely be had for somewhere around $2 million per year.

New York Jets RB Bilal Powell
Powell has familiarity to Tampa Bay’s coaching staff through defensive coordinator Todd Bowles, who was the head coach of the New York Jets from 2015-18. The 30-year old Powell, lacks speed, but he’s a crafty veteran that runs with more power than his 5-foot-10, 204-pound frame would suggest.

Powell was the Jets’ second-leading rusher behind Isaiah Crowell, a player the Bucs should have signed last year in free agency. Powell finished with 80 carries for 343 yards (4.3 avg.) and caught 11 passes for 110 yards (10 avg.) and one touchdown. Powell has rushed for 3,446 yards and 15 touchdowns in 791 carries (4.4 avg.), in addition to catching 204 passes for 1,567 yards (7.7 avg.) and five scores.

Powell had back-to-back 700-yard seasons from 2016-17, and rushed for a career-high 772 yards and five touchdowns on 178 carries (4.3 avg.) during the ’17 season. When used in the passing game, Powell can be effective, evidenced by the fact that he caught a combined 105 passes for 776 yards and four touchdowns during the 2015-16 seasons.

Jets RB Bilal Powell
Jets RB Bilal Powell – Photo by: Getty Images

If the Bucs were to be interested in Powell, it would only come with a strong endorsement from Bowles, and the understanding that Powell would strictly be a role player in Tampa Bay. Yet having an eight-year veteran presence in the running backs room with like Barber, Jones and Wilson could really aid in the development of those young players. Powell made $4 million last year in New York, and he would be lucky to fetch $2.5 million per year given his age and recent production, making him an affordable bargain.

Speaking of the Jets, keep an eye on New York running back Isaiah Crowell, who is expected to be released in March as the team will pursue another running back – possibly Bell or Coleman. I advocated that the Bucs sign Crowell last year in a previous SR’s Fab 5 column, but the team didn’t listen. All he did was go on to lead the Jets in rushing with 685 yards and six touchdowns while averaging 4.8 yards per carry in 2018 while playing for Bowles.

If Bowles gives Tampa Bay the thumb’s up on Crowell it could change the front office’s mind about him, especially if the season-ending toe injury that cost him the final three games of the year has fully healed. Crowell isn’t a superstar, but the 5-foot-11, 225-pounder is a faster version of Barber, evidenced by touchdown runs of 62 and 77 yards last year. Barber’s longest run of the year last season was 28 yards, and he averaged 3.7 yards per carry in 2018.

The FABulous Ending
As I’ve previously stated, the biggest mistake Licht and Arians can make is to assume that Jones will suddenly blossom and become a force in his second year after an awful rookie season in which he didn’t look like he could even play in the league. I suspect Jones will get better coaching under Arians and new running backs coach Todd McNair, but coaches can only do so much.

Drafting a running back like Memphis’ Darrell Henderson would make a lot of sense if the Bucs can trade down from the No. 5 overall pick in the first round and stockpile some picks later in the draft. But after seeing Tampa Bay swing and miss on a rookie running back last year, perhaps going with a proven option like Peterson or Coleman for competition with Barber and Jones would be best for 2019.

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Scott Reynolds is in his 24th year of covering the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the vice president, publisher and senior Bucs beat writer for PewterReport.com. Author of the popular SR's Fab 5 column on Fridays, Reynolds oversees web development and forges marketing partnerships for PewterReport.com in addition to his editorial duties. A graduate of Kansas State University in 1995, Reynolds spent six years giving back to the community as the defensive line coach for his son's Pop Warner team, the South Pasco Predators. Reynolds can be reached at: [email protected]

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  1. I cannot figure out Rojo. On paper the Bucs 2018 second round picks still look brilliant. I was pretty happy at the time.
    Rojo was the second best running back in the Pac-12 in 2017 with 19 TDs and 1600 yards. He had great stats every year. Look at his college stats.

    Year Team G Att Gain Loss Yds Avg YPG Lg TD
    2015 USC (FBS) 14 153 1,005 18 987 6.45 70.5 74t 8
    2016 USC (FBS) 13 177 1,124 42 1,082 6.11 83.2 66t 12
    2017 USC (FBS) 12 261 1,584 34 1,550 5.94 129.2 86t 19
    Career Totals 39 591 3,713 94 3,619 6.12 92.8 86t 39

    I’m sure USC had a better offensive line than the Bucs last year, but that’s only part of the problem. Even with the bad o-line Jones still had the worst rushing stats on the team.
    I hope he improves this year. God knows I do. But, I really don’t understand what the problem is.

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    • The problem was on multiple levels. First of all, we tried running a ton of zone blocking concepts with him, which our OL simply isn’t good enough or athletic enough to run well. So every stretch or toss play we tried with Jones ended in someone blasting through the line and meeting Jones in the backfield. We simply didn’t have the horses to block on the move, and it showed. Secondly, the weird rotations Koetter used never allowed him to get into the feel of the game. He would be entered for one or two plays, where he’d either run up the middle or get blown up on a stretch play as described above…and then taken out. There was little (read: no) creativity with him. We kept trying the same thing over and over, expecting different results. The definition of insanity. That likely destroyed any confidence he had in his abilities, and resulted in him at times looking hestitant, like he expected to get hit as soon as he touched the ball (and more often than not, that’s exactly what happened).

      Reynolds is exactly right that we can’t just expect Arians to fix the problem. It’s more complicated than that. But he CAN find more creative ways to get him the ball and get him some confidence. It’ll be up to Licht to improve the guys up front to actually pave the way. We do that, and RoJo will be fine. His college tape speaks for itself. He was THE highest rated RB in the 2017 draft class by PFF. If you get him some space to run, he is dangerous as hell. We weren’t able to do that last season. If we want him to be the guy we drafted him to be, that starts with fixing the situation around him.

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      • That is a great answer. Thanks for the detailed response.

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        • Okay

          So,no thumbs down on my initial comment or DT25’s response, but somebody doesn’t like my comment that DT25 had a great response? Huh?

          So,

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      • Great response DT.

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      • Our OL sucks…totally agree. Why I have been unhappy with the last several drafts. We act like that part of the team doesn’t matter based on the way we choose in the draft. Donovan Smith, Benenoch, etc. etc. These guys are terrible. Last three drafts we’ve picked 2 OL (Benenoch and Cappa). Log jam at WR and TE but the line doesn’t matter. Licht’s drafting has been extremely suspect…

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      • I agree with most all of this as far as some stuff that went wrong last year. Koetter and co. constantly calling outside zone stretch plays for RoJo was maddening. In theory, all things being equal, he fits best in that kind of blocking scheme. But as a team, once you realize that your line just is NOT capable of executing a particular concept, you need to abandon it. Instead, we’d typically run Barber in primarily man blocking plays, and RoJo in mostly zone calls, and the results from the line created much of the disparity between their production numbers. It was sheer stupidity by both Koetter and Monken (who, overall, I still like reasonably well as an offensive coach) not to see the line flailing helplessly on zone concepts and make the conscious choice to stop calling them. Instead, they kept throwing RoJo back there, and the dude never had much of a chance.

        Now, that said – his weaknesses/issues as both a receiver and pass blocker are mostly if not all on him, and they’re enormous problems for a RB in today’s NFL. There are some truly one-dimensional runners who are able to carve roles out for themselves, but when your best traits are speed and quickness rather than pushing piles, I think you HAVE TO be able to be an asset in the passing game in order to be of great use to your team. Whatever it takes, RoJo needs to get to week one this year with softer hands, cleaner routes, and the ability to do his job as a blocker EVERY time it’s required of him in the passing game. If he doesn’t, then he’ll barely be able to get on the field to showcase his enormous physical gifts as a runner, whether the line is playing well or not.

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        • I get the feeling that Licht and the scouts saw something in Rojo that Koetter and Monken didn’t, so that could be another reason. I also think Koetter’s refusal to shape the schemes to the players’ strengths had a lot to do with Rojo’s inability to get much going offensively as well, but you’re dead-on correct about Rojo’s need to address his receiving and blocking skills, or lack thereof, this off season.

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  2. I like bringing in a veteran RB. My choice would be Yeldon or Coleman.

    That said I’m pulling for Rojo to turn it around. Just like Spence, he looked incredible in the training camp sessions I attended last summer and then nothing. Just too odd.

    BA is gonna have to do a lot of whispering this season…..

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    • How great would it be if this version of RoJo shows up this season.

      https://www.bing.com/search?q=ronald+jones+usc+highlights&form=APMCS1&PC=APMC

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  3. “I really don’t understand what the problem is” – Hopefully it’s something as simple as replacing George Warhop as the OL coach and run-game coordinator.

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  4. While appreciating Humphries’ story and contributions, agree that he’ll probably price himself out of the Bucs range. Would like to see a WR or two brought in to compete with Bobo Wilson for that #3/4 WR spot and bring some return ability to the ST side of things.

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  5. The Bucs can’t afford to spend an early round pick on another RB. They will continue to develop ROJO, but Barber needs help now. BA is partial to Temple players and will draft Ryquell “Rock” Armstead/Temple in the 7th round or sign as a UDFA. Rock is 5-11 233 4.56.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFHY9E14nb0

    Look for an affordable experienced FA RB as well (T.J. Yeldon/Carlos Hyde/Isaiah Crowell). Todd McNair, Bucs RB coach played under Arians at Temple and was the running backs coach at USC, guiding Reggie Bush to a Heisman Trophy in 2005 – hoping he can help develop ROJO.

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    • Macabee, this makes a lot of sense.

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  6. I’m in total agreement with most on here. The so called exerts who are dumb enough to believe tampa would spend a top five pick on an often injured running back is mind boggling. Offensive and defensive lines are a much bigger priority. I don’t even think they should draft a running back. Just get one of those veterans, hopefully Tevin Coleman, and roll with that. As far as Humphries, good god $10 million is absurd. Anything over $6, you let him walk. This team just can’t afford to throw money like that around. I’d rather keep Brate for the $7 million and draft a WR if needed or let Watson develop. BA sure has a lot of work cut out for him, but this team clearly has talent and some good pieces. Hopefully he can put this puzzle Together

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    • One of the reasons Arians came back to coaching is because the staff he wanted were pretty much all available. By every account I’ve read, BA likes to employ teachers, not just coaches. Helping guys like RoJo, Watson and Bobo get down the fundamentals is what these assistants do.

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  7. This is the year to change the attitude of the team. A tough thing to do when you have several players that have had two or three past coaches already with the Bucs.
    There are several players we can release who are being overpaid at this point in time as to what they actually bring to this team. Let’s get our cap backup and let the coach create a young and hungry team. We talked a lot about Licht’s drafting; I say that is not as terrible as made out, but what is bad is some players he has signed with huge contracts that weren’t necessary because of the players quality of play. I believe Licht’s weakness is negotiating with Agents and trading skills.

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    • Great point horse, which do you cut first?

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      • Jackson, ,Urien, E. Smith, Gholston, McCoy (unless he would take a big pay cut), Alexander (unless contract was reasonable), D. Smith (unless contract was reasonable);Dotson (as a backup and contract was reduced as to back up pay), wouldn’t have much patience with Hargreaves, Benenoch, Spence. There’s many more.

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        • Couple thoughts here – (1) Dotson is already paid basically like a backup or low-end starter at $4.8M. He’s not going to take less, and we shouldn’t ask him to. He had a down year, and it may be the beginning of his age-related decline, but his overall track record is strong enough, and our other needs are great enough in number, that I think we should give him a chance to rebound. (2) I agree with plenty of your cut candidates, but at the end of the day, every time you cut a guy, you have to sign someone else. Can’t just drop every single player on the roster who remotely underplayed their contract in 2019. It’s not feasible, unless you instead want to promote the guys who were only good enough to be their backups and bring in a ton of UDFA to take those places. Not enough resources available to us to address all the needs your cuts create.

          With that in mind, Hargreaves is one of the easier keeps on the roster. (1) I still believe in his talent, and (2) cutting him would create $0 in cap room, since his entire contract this year is guaranteed as a first round pick.

          I’d keep Benenoch as depth. Definitely need a new guy ahead of him, but off the bench, he’s affordable, and again, we can only create so many holes.

          I’m with you on Alexander and Donovan. Both somehow drastically overrated by the team, fans, and general football public.

          I could be wrong, but I think one of DeSean and McCoy stays and one goes. Probably DeSean staying, which if Arians thinks it’s best, I accept on faith.

          All those other guys are prime cut candidates, IMO. For some of them, I have no hope. For the rest, they need to step up big or hit the road.

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  8. RoJo is another reason why my faith in Licht has vanished.
    I really hope the guy succeeds and has a good year but what in the world are we drafting a RB with a high 2nd round pick who has never caught the ball much in college and that is one of the skills he needs to play in our offense.
    It’s mind boggling.

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  9. I am not sure if this is a reach or not but what if BA were to use OJ in that slot role like he did with Fitzgerald?? Size, speed and run blocking were the reasons he made the move with Fitzgerald. We could keep the receivers in their spots and take advantage of Brate against the linebackers too. Jimmy Graham was used similarly and it made a kind of hybrid TE/Receiver.

    I don’t see the ROI in keeping Hump for even 6mil with all of the needs we have on this Team. I even think Brate could be traded to say….NE??? They are losing Gronk and Brate’s value for what he is paid is high.

    What are your thoughts on these ideas???

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    • I would hate to see either of them go. But, the reality is, they are just luxuries. It felt weird calling them that since, 1, they are go to guys for Jameis, 2, they are both blue collar players.

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    • Philly I like your idea but I think Brate is the next name you’ll start hearing come up in trade talk, That only leaves OJ to play TE. I have always liked it when Koetter used to use Evans in the slot to take advantage of the mismatch. As Scott points out in the article BA may take that approach.

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  10. This is exactly what I have been talking about and what I am hoping for this season. This is the first time in years that we have had a completely new Staff to come in with fresh eyes and fresh ideas and completely re-evaluate our talent and stufmdy the tale and basically rebuild the team we already have.

    I am completely confident that when the season starts we will find out that we already have more talent than we ever realized and after FA and the Draft the holes that may have seemed glaring will be covered Uo with strengths… This offseason is going to be so exciting!!!

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  11. No problem Bruce Arians has the power of the force he’s like Obi-Wan Kenobi he can fix Jameis Winston’s turnover problem he can fix RoJo
    He can get Vita Vita in shape and turn him into a monster he can fix jpp’s hand and make him be able to not miss so many tackles.
    Bruce Arians will consult with Yoda and fix all these problems go ahead and release the five or six best players on this team so you can make cap space for Jameis cuz he will find others that can play just as well. . He can do all this because he’s Bruce Arians the same guy that took a team that was in NFC championship game Game the next season 8 and 8

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    • Get lots of thumbs down, this comment will. Lol.

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    • Jesus buc ass, you are probably the most miserable fan alive. You’re probably the type of person that turns on the AC in your house and then bitches because it’s too cold. If you don’t like anything, pick another team, you wouldn’t be missed I assure you.

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    • You gotta do research before you Troll… He’s got the largest staff we’ve ever had to turn pkaers around, no one is saying he will do it alone, and if you did research you would know that 8-8 team was one where they had lost Carson Palmer and a bunch of other players and still managed to go 500 and with the lineup he had he was proud of how they were able to do it with the 3rd string WB and a bunch of backups…

      That’s the kind of leadership he will bring, getting the most out of EVERYONE on the team…

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      • I’ve done my research he doesn’t have Carson Palmer here!!!!! . Doesn’t have anybody even close to Carson Palmer and they’re going to release a bunch of the good players.
        Joe Gibbs says head coach of a football team takes between 70 and 80 hours just to do the basics per week. Pewter boys got him fixing everything now he’s going to fix RoJo what you going to do glue some velcro to his hands and puts 30 pounds on him.

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        • Joe Gibbs was in another era; didn’t even know what a computer was much less internet.

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        • Again, you gotta read Buc-Ass, that’s what I said, Carson Palmer got hurt in the 8-8 season that you tried to use as a knock on BA. They went 8-8 with a 3rd string QB… You can’t just start to read a post and then try to argue against it.

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  12. With all respect I do think Bruce Arians is a good coach I do think he has his hands full when he was a quarterback coach he had time to work with a quarterback now he’s running the entire team he doesn’t have time to fix the entire team and I think he’s also happened to do some of the general manager’s job so just coaching the team is going to be enough for him.

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  13. I Love the idea of moving Godwin into the Slot… He is perfect for that role and we could reap the benefits… That could easily open up the outside spot for a speedy replacement for Jackson…

    Coleman or Peterson would be a great addition to the rungame. Any holes we could fill in FA would allow us to concentrate more on Oline and Secondary in the Draft…

    Bringing in the Jets kicker sounds like a great idea.

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  14. As OC, Bruce Arians used RB Willie Parker in Pittsburgh until they drafted RB Rashard Mendenhall. At WR the Steelers had AB and drafted WR Emmanual Sanders. Bruce was not retained by the Steelers in 2011 when his contract expired.

    In January of 2012 BA went to Indy and became the OC. The Colts notably drafted QB Luck(1st round), TE Coby Fleener(2), TE Dwayne Allen(3), WR TY Hilton(3), and RB Vick Ballard(5). Bruce took over as Interim HC for Chuck Pagano who took the year off to fight cancer. He won Coach of the Year after guiding a rookie led team to the playoffs in his first year.

    He was obviously a hot commodity and earned his first NFL head coaching job for Arizona in 2013. That year the Cards drafted OG Jonathan Cooper(1), LB Kevin Minter(2), S Tyrann Mathieu(3), LB Alex Okefor(4), OG Earl Watford(4), RB Stefan Taylor(5), WR Eric Swope(6a), Andre Ellington(6b). Cards went from 5-11 in 2012 to 10-6 in 2013.

    I think we’re going to see lots of similarities between the Colts and Arizona turnarounds. I think Licht drops back a few spots and gets Arians a little more early round ammuntion. I think the Bucs will draft LB’s, DL, and OL in the early rounds. I think the Bucs will draft a speed receiver and a couple of RB’s late. I think the draft will look like his AZ draft.

    I think the 2019 product on the field could look like the 2012 Colts on offense and the 2013 Cards on defense. I like the idea that SR put forth about the slot role going to a guy like Godwin, but why not use OJ in that capacity also? The offense can feature 1RB, 2 WR, 2 TE (with OJ in the slot getting vertical).

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    • …my comment submitted a bit early…

      I think the offense is mostly built and will be able to score on anyone. I think BA and Licht bring in a blue chip road grading guard in the 2nd or 3rd round. I think the biggest changes will come from revamping the defense to fit what TB wants to do. Linebackers and defensive line are strengths of the draft and its perfect timing for Tampa to implement a new system.

      Cant wait to watch it unfold.

      Go Bucs!

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  15. Can anyone imagine being a child and having BucAssbob as a parent.
    You would want to live in a permanent state of cognitive disassocation.
    Please, Pewter Report gurus, ban this annoying troll.

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    • He’s just frustrated…and allergic to punctuation. His comments are funny run on sentence mysteries from a guy that has had way too many cups of Hater-ade!

      Three cheers for Buc-Ass-Bob!!

      Go Bucs!

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    • He would probably boo his own daughter’s dance recital or his son’s trumpet solo.

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  16. Understand the rookie contract is to allow teams to work out problems with players before they get big bucks here is my question to the Pewter boys please Trevor CG Masters Chef bo ho ho Fedster bucray . All of you feel free to chime in buc ass Bob asks one simple question if Jameis Winston isn’t broken why does Bruce Arians need to fix him what morons give a broken player 21 million dollars.

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    • I just figured it out. BOB is Mrs. Grimes. You had us all fooled, Miko. But now I’m on to you.

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      • Every time Miko oops I mean Buc ass opens his mouth something funny comes out. I say let’s encourage him to stay around, because I’m still looking for his twin brother Naplefan.

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        • Yes, where is Naples these days? I miss him. Miss good ol’ BF47 too. Is it possible that Bob is them?

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      • No, no, no, good sir. We’ve established that bob is actually DeSean Jackson. It’s why he hates Winston so much. Lol

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  17. If you look at the blocking on Rojo’s runs last year, he had no chance. Barry Sanders wouldn’t have done any better. Improve the blocking and Rojo will be amazing.

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  18. Barber ran behind the same line last year and he was able to get in some good runs at times last year, Rojo ran behind the same line but his vision was lacking and he looked scared at times dropping passes in the backfield…I hope Rojo was just having a bad rookie season but I’m not so sure if he can be the guy, I hope he proves me wrong but he showed little improvement throughout the season last year while RB is supposed to be one of the easier positions to transition from college to NFL.

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  19. To my way of thinking, we can’t really make any legitimate prognostications until we find out more of what Bruce Arians and his new coaching staff are looking for. About the only legitimate pieces of information both the fans, like me, and the pundits at Pewter Report and other sites have at their disposal is the salary cap situation. Clearly, DeSean Jackson’s $10 million for limited production needs to do on down the road, but even that might change if Arians can work some motivational magic. We’ll know more when free agency hits and we see what kind of splash or not the Bucs make.

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  20. Bob reminds me of a child that knows what he’s saying is stupid and makes zero sense but craves any attention even negative.

    He must be a joy to live with. Beats a dead horse over and over and just spews idiotic non sense and never admits he’s wrong. Same old idiotic crap over and over.

    Oh and Vea isn’t out of shape moron your the only one that thinks that.

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    • I also think Vea is a fat out of shape guy but i wont call you moron

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      • Big guy looked pretty good to me. Sapp was fat and played OK.

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  21. Beat up on Bob day. look at the 40 year history yucks have earned plenty of hater-ade. Both ownership families are to blame 30+ yrs of losing. the fans should hold this team to higher standard. beat up the ownerships.

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    • I have never understood why fans blame the owners while still rooting for the same team. It’s like blaming Ford for building a crappie engine but then you go out and buy a brand new f150. Just go buy a Chevy or root for another team and all your problems will go away. Blaming the ownership is fruitless because you can’t fire owners.

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  22. Love your name 40+ year fan and you make a good point, especially with your name.
    Strange how you were as to do that without annoying anybody whereas Bob is incapable of doing the same.
    Bob also makes his insults cheap and very personal since he can hide behind his computer screen.
    We all know the type.

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  23. The Bucs could go back to Clemson and either draft late or sign as an undrafted free agent Hunter Renfro, he certainly has similarities in his game to Humphries.

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    • Check out SR’s take on the slot weapon in Arians offense…

      https://www.pewterreport.com/bucs-pewter-nation-podcast-episode-108-cuts-catches-and-captains/

      Suffice it to say, he’s doesn’t use his slot weapon that way. When Hump moves on, he will not be replaced with a cloned version basically.

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  24. Can sombody please tell me why this dumb buc ass wont just find his ass a new team???

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    • I’m not sure if the ‘Fins have a similar site to PR, but if they do, we would probably see a commentor on there from a few yrs back named something stupid like FIN-ASS-FRANK. I’m telling y’all, BOB is Miko Grimes

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  25. BA and Licht don’t want to tip there hand too much but its going to be pretty obvious after March 15 when they have to make a decision on LT Smith and LB Kwon Alaxander. For all the critics losing anyone of these two will leave a huge hole in the line up.

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  26. I just can’t imagine not drafting O-line and D-line with the first 2 if not 3 picks. All the more reason to trade back in the 1st round so that we have an extra pk or 2 which would allow us to get a RB in the early rounds. Arians keeps saying we have a lot of skilled players which is true but we once again have to get better in the trenches. Coach Dungy always believed in building a team from the trenches out and I love that philosophy. With that said we still have to address the RB position and IMO we need to pick one up in FA and we need to draft one. Bring in Adrian Peterson, keep Barber for the tough yards, Rojo will get better and I am confident Arians will know how to use him, and lastly we need to draft one (I like Singletary out of FAU).

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  27. I’m negative because I grew up in Denver watching the Denver Broncos a team that fired two head coaches for losing Super Bowls we’re sold out stadiums where the noise grounded out the opposing team to where they couldn’t hear the plays being called and then I go to the Bucs game and there’s more fans for the other team I feel bad for them I want the Buccaneers to win and be strong as now this team is 31st in attendance these pathetic owners in general manager have taken this team to the bottom and nobody says anything everybody talks about a tweak here and there now they think Bruce Arians a 66 year old man is going to fix the whole organization I would dream to see the Buccaneers be winners Buccaneer fans drowning out the opposing team’s play calling that’s what NFL football is about.

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    • You get a lot of people fighting your line of thinking, but I enjoy your perspective. You do make some good points.

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    • Don’t worry bob, even though people view you negatively, I enjoy the discussions you sometimes bring here..like I said before, I know you just want to win.

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    • Me too Bob. It’s not easy being a Bucs fan.

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  28. Dan Reeves and Mike Shanahan got it. The Bucs have fired Dungy, Gruden and I’ll just throw in Sam Wyche while we are talking about Super Bowl coaches who got fired. Your point is moot if you are suggesting that your negativety comes from the fact that you believe the Bucs are not trying to Win.

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  29. Good job of laying out many options Scott. I wish BA would watch the Kentucky vs. Florida game last year. Kentucky ran all over Florida with Benny Snell Jr. who reminded me of Cook. Snell can do it all. However he has been flying under the radar and was not in any all star game so he may fall to the last day of the draft. With a good line Snell could be a thousand yard rusher next year and also contribute in the passing game. He would be the best option for very little cost for the next four years.

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  30. Some guys prefer blondes, some guys prefer brunettes.

    Arians? He likes 5th round running backs. I would make a gentlemen’s bet that he and Jason take one in the 5th this year.

    I do like the idea of bringing in a veteran to ensure there’s a strong stable.

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  31. BucAss, 40plus and I have been here longer than you so we can certainly commisserate with you.
    But you don’t see us teeing off on everything that happens with the team with a negative spin and with so much personal venom directed with such personal animosity.
    I too cringe at the number of opposing team fans who populate the game, especial,y those in the lower bowl where the high end season ticket holders seem to be more than happy to sell their tickets as long as they can make a profit.
    The rich have no loyalty to anything other than a dollar.

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    • That’s my main complaint about the “stadium experience”. I get annoyed every game for having to endure the unfriendly surroundings of so many opposing fans. That and the almost certainty of losing the game causes many to choose to stay home and watch on TV. Unfortunately, they buyer for those tickets is more than likely a fan from the opponent.

      No need to look down your nose at who you are calling, “high end” and “rich”. I’m not going to apologize for having a high enough priority since being a ticket holder from the beginning and being successful enough to purchase my 6 seats. Many times over the years they weren’t affordable, but I still bought them. I used my beer, cigarette and tattoo money.

      A lot of those tickets you reference are owned by businesses who give them to clients and employees. Many who wouldn’t be able to go otherwise.

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  32. We can’t sign Hunt because he’s not PC. But now Adrian Peterson is PC? I hate this country

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    • I’ll go with the famous Metallica quote here: Kill em all

      Adrian “ Grandpappy” peterson isn’t coming here. Kareem “I barely even kicked that b*tch” Hunt isn’t either.

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    • I mean, time does matter. Hunt’s wrongdoing’s are much more recent than Peterson’s. I don’t know exactly what that’s worth, but it is worth something. One guy has had time to show he didn’t repeat his past mistakes, while the other hasn’t. Pretty simple.

      Not really advocating for signing Peterson in this discussion, just saying that (for a random example) a guy who did something bad 5 years ago and has since not done clearly bad things is easier to bring on with a clear conscience than a guy who did something bad 5 months ago is.

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  33. I’m very hopeful for RoJo. I have no doubt that Arians, Leftwich, and Goodwin will put him in the best position to succeed they can with the line we end up with. Whether or not that will be enough to lead to success for him remains to be seen. He has some things he has to fix about his game in order to maximize his potential, but I do believe in his talent.

    I have no interest in Ingram. He feels like a prime “quick dropoff” RB. At 29 years old, I’d rather just avoid him. Coleman at the right price is interesting due to his versatility, but it’s tough to justify with our whole host of other needs. I don’t see it for Powell or Yeldon, due to their middling talent and age concerns with Powell. Oddly, I’d be open to Peterson on a low-paying, one-year deal. As many times as we’ve been linked to him, this is the first I’d entertain the idea of actually signing him. Only because he may be super cheap, with only the one year required to commit, and even then, it wouldn’t be guaranteed, so if he looked questionable in camp, you cut him free and clear. And if he repeats last year, you get a big win at a low price tag.

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  34. Agree with you on Hump, Scott. I love the guy and what he does, but for THIS team, right now, he likely just isn’t worth the cost. We could probably make it happen, but at what cost elsewhere on the roster? An upgrade at starting RG is worth more than having a great #4 or #5 option in the passing game. Same for a new slot CB, starting safety, MLB, or pass rushing/rotational DE. The salary cap is, obviously, a zero sum game. With our financial resources limited this year, I can’t make it make sense to keep him here, as much as I wish we could.

    Now, a bit more on the cap…you laying out the numbers for our receivers this year sparked this idea for me. Do you think Licht would consider doing what he did with Vincent Jackson by converting a portion of Mike’s enormous $20M cap number into a signing bonus? If he turned, say, $10M into a signing bonus, that would lower his cap number to just $12M this year and only raise the remaining years on his deal by $2M each. I know it’s risky, but with Evans still being so young (he’s 25 right now), it seems less risky than it might be for some other veterans. With the crunch we’re experiencing, I really like this idea, whether it’s $10M, less, or more. Just something to help the team plug the holes right now, in this pivotal first year for Arians and his staff.

    Thought?

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  35. Fab1: No blocking and misuse of Rojo’s skillset created a serious confidence issue. The Oline needs help for this and 20 other reasons.

    Fab2: AJ Ajayi, TJ Yeldon, Mike Davis all make sense to me in FA. A draftee RB/KR/PR in later rounds makes too much sense too.

    Fab3: I think Hump goes to the highest bidder which won’t be the Bucs. We’ll need another WR in FA or Draft (because Hump and Jackson are both goners.) I think it’s time for someone to get Kevin White in for a risk-it-no-biscuit-deal… Bryant, Matthews and Nelson also make sense to me.

    Fab4: Robbie Gould and Aldrick Rosas (ERFA) are both worth looking at for the kicking job. I would love to see some creativity coupled with sound, aggressive play in our ST’s…

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