FAB 4. Bucs’ Special Teams Are Anything But Special

The worst kept secret in the NFL is that the Bucs’ special teams have been awful for years – and not just because Tampa Bay has struggled mightily at the kicker position. For the second straight year, the Bucs cut a veteran kicker midseason and signed a replacement. Nick Folk was released and replaced by Patrick Murray in 2017, and last year saw Chandler Catanzaro get cut and replaced by Cairo Santos.

But the Bucs had other special teams concerns, including a pitiful kick return game, a lackluster punt return game and so-so coverage units. Longtime NFL reporter Rick Gosselin puts out his annual special teams rankings, and – no surprise – the Bucs didn’t fare too well.

The Big Takeaway
Tampa Bay finished with an aggregate 444 points and was tied with Dallas for 27th in the league in Gosselin’s special teams rankings. Green Bay was the worst-rated team with 470.5 points while the New York Jets were the best with 231, followed by New Orleans (243), Kansas City (248), Miami (296.5) and Arizona (301).

Ex-Falcons K Matt Bryant
Ex-Falcons K Matt Bryant – Photo by: Getty Images

Helping the Jets’ ranking was the fact that return specialist Andre Roberts and kicker Jason Myers went to the Pro Bowl last year. Keep an eye on Myers, who kicked for Bucs defensive coordinator Todd Bowles last year when he was New York’s head coach. Myers, who spent 2015-17 in Jacksonville before signing a one-year deal with the Jets where he connected on 33-of-36 field goals (91.7 percent), is an unrestricted free agent.

Matt Bryant, the former Bucs kicker who spent the last decade in Atlanta kicking for new Tampa Bay special teams coordinator Keith Armstrong, is another potential free agent signing for the team, as is re-signing Santos. By the way, Armstrong’s Falcons special teams were tied for 19th with 375.5 points last year.

The Bucs could be looking for a new punter with Bryan Anger set to make $3 million this year and coming off two average years. Special teams are as much about field position as it is about field goals.

Tampa Bay had just 15 punts inside the 20 last year, which was tied with New Orleans for the worst in the league. The Bucs were one of 16 teams that didn’t score any points on special teams outside of field goals or extra points. The Patriots, Dolphins, Jets and Titans were tied for the most special teams points in the league with 12.

Conversely, Tampa Bay was one of 16 teams that didn’t have any points allowed, either. That’s an improvement over 2017 when the Bucs allowed 18 points with two kick returns for touchdowns and a blocked punt for a touchdown that season.

Gosselin also points out that Tampa Bay was one of 12 teams that didn’t have any blocked kicks in 2018. New England led the way with five blocks last year.

Bucs ST coordinator Keith Armstrong
Bucs ST coordinator Keith Armstrong – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

The FABulous Ending
So there is a lot of work that Armstrong needs to do to make the Bucs special teams at least respectable again. It can be done rather quickly, too.

Jets special teams coach Brant Boyer inherited the league’s 31st-ranked special teams unit when he arrived in 2016. The Jets finished 30th in special teams in 2016, 20th in 2017 and improved to first in 2018. New York finished first in five of Gosselin’s categories and in the Top 5 in seven others.

Now it’s Tampa Bay’s turn to turn its special teams around.

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Scott Reynolds is in his 24th year of covering the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the vice president, publisher and senior Bucs beat writer for PewterReport.com. Author of the popular SR's Fab 5 column on Fridays, Reynolds oversees web development and forges marketing partnerships for PewterReport.com in addition to his editorial duties. A graduate of Kansas State University in 1995, Reynolds spent six years giving back to the community as the defensive line coach for his son's Pop Warner team, the South Pasco Predators. Reynolds can be reached at: [email protected]

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  1. I cannot figure out Rojo. On paper the Bucs 2018 second round picks still look brilliant. I was pretty happy at the time.
    Rojo was the second best running back in the Pac-12 in 2017 with 19 TDs and 1600 yards. He had great stats every year. Look at his college stats.

    Year Team G Att Gain Loss Yds Avg YPG Lg TD
    2015 USC (FBS) 14 153 1,005 18 987 6.45 70.5 74t 8
    2016 USC (FBS) 13 177 1,124 42 1,082 6.11 83.2 66t 12
    2017 USC (FBS) 12 261 1,584 34 1,550 5.94 129.2 86t 19
    Career Totals 39 591 3,713 94 3,619 6.12 92.8 86t 39

    I’m sure USC had a better offensive line than the Bucs last year, but that’s only part of the problem. Even with the bad o-line Jones still had the worst rushing stats on the team.
    I hope he improves this year. God knows I do. But, I really don’t understand what the problem is.

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    • The problem was on multiple levels. First of all, we tried running a ton of zone blocking concepts with him, which our OL simply isn’t good enough or athletic enough to run well. So every stretch or toss play we tried with Jones ended in someone blasting through the line and meeting Jones in the backfield. We simply didn’t have the horses to block on the move, and it showed. Secondly, the weird rotations Koetter used never allowed him to get into the feel of the game. He would be entered for one or two plays, where he’d either run up the middle or get blown up on a stretch play as described above…and then taken out. There was little (read: no) creativity with him. We kept trying the same thing over and over, expecting different results. The definition of insanity. That likely destroyed any confidence he had in his abilities, and resulted in him at times looking hestitant, like he expected to get hit as soon as he touched the ball (and more often than not, that’s exactly what happened).

      Reynolds is exactly right that we can’t just expect Arians to fix the problem. It’s more complicated than that. But he CAN find more creative ways to get him the ball and get him some confidence. It’ll be up to Licht to improve the guys up front to actually pave the way. We do that, and RoJo will be fine. His college tape speaks for itself. He was THE highest rated RB in the 2017 draft class by PFF. If you get him some space to run, he is dangerous as hell. We weren’t able to do that last season. If we want him to be the guy we drafted him to be, that starts with fixing the situation around him.

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      • That is a great answer. Thanks for the detailed response.

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        • Okay

          So,no thumbs down on my initial comment or DT25’s response, but somebody doesn’t like my comment that DT25 had a great response? Huh?

          So,

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      • Great response DT.

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      • Our OL sucks…totally agree. Why I have been unhappy with the last several drafts. We act like that part of the team doesn’t matter based on the way we choose in the draft. Donovan Smith, Benenoch, etc. etc. These guys are terrible. Last three drafts we’ve picked 2 OL (Benenoch and Cappa). Log jam at WR and TE but the line doesn’t matter. Licht’s drafting has been extremely suspect…

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      • I agree with most all of this as far as some stuff that went wrong last year. Koetter and co. constantly calling outside zone stretch plays for RoJo was maddening. In theory, all things being equal, he fits best in that kind of blocking scheme. But as a team, once you realize that your line just is NOT capable of executing a particular concept, you need to abandon it. Instead, we’d typically run Barber in primarily man blocking plays, and RoJo in mostly zone calls, and the results from the line created much of the disparity between their production numbers. It was sheer stupidity by both Koetter and Monken (who, overall, I still like reasonably well as an offensive coach) not to see the line flailing helplessly on zone concepts and make the conscious choice to stop calling them. Instead, they kept throwing RoJo back there, and the dude never had much of a chance.

        Now, that said – his weaknesses/issues as both a receiver and pass blocker are mostly if not all on him, and they’re enormous problems for a RB in today’s NFL. There are some truly one-dimensional runners who are able to carve roles out for themselves, but when your best traits are speed and quickness rather than pushing piles, I think you HAVE TO be able to be an asset in the passing game in order to be of great use to your team. Whatever it takes, RoJo needs to get to week one this year with softer hands, cleaner routes, and the ability to do his job as a blocker EVERY time it’s required of him in the passing game. If he doesn’t, then he’ll barely be able to get on the field to showcase his enormous physical gifts as a runner, whether the line is playing well or not.

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        • I get the feeling that Licht and the scouts saw something in Rojo that Koetter and Monken didn’t, so that could be another reason. I also think Koetter’s refusal to shape the schemes to the players’ strengths had a lot to do with Rojo’s inability to get much going offensively as well, but you’re dead-on correct about Rojo’s need to address his receiving and blocking skills, or lack thereof, this off season.

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  2. I like bringing in a veteran RB. My choice would be Yeldon or Coleman.

    That said I’m pulling for Rojo to turn it around. Just like Spence, he looked incredible in the training camp sessions I attended last summer and then nothing. Just too odd.

    BA is gonna have to do a lot of whispering this season…..

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    • How great would it be if this version of RoJo shows up this season.

      https://www.bing.com/search?q=ronald+jones+usc+highlights&form=APMCS1&PC=APMC

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  3. “I really don’t understand what the problem is” – Hopefully it’s something as simple as replacing George Warhop as the OL coach and run-game coordinator.

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  4. While appreciating Humphries’ story and contributions, agree that he’ll probably price himself out of the Bucs range. Would like to see a WR or two brought in to compete with Bobo Wilson for that #3/4 WR spot and bring some return ability to the ST side of things.

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  5. The Bucs can’t afford to spend an early round pick on another RB. They will continue to develop ROJO, but Barber needs help now. BA is partial to Temple players and will draft Ryquell “Rock” Armstead/Temple in the 7th round or sign as a UDFA. Rock is 5-11 233 4.56.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFHY9E14nb0

    Look for an affordable experienced FA RB as well (T.J. Yeldon/Carlos Hyde/Isaiah Crowell). Todd McNair, Bucs RB coach played under Arians at Temple and was the running backs coach at USC, guiding Reggie Bush to a Heisman Trophy in 2005 – hoping he can help develop ROJO.

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    • Macabee, this makes a lot of sense.

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  6. I’m in total agreement with most on here. The so called exerts who are dumb enough to believe tampa would spend a top five pick on an often injured running back is mind boggling. Offensive and defensive lines are a much bigger priority. I don’t even think they should draft a running back. Just get one of those veterans, hopefully Tevin Coleman, and roll with that. As far as Humphries, good god $10 million is absurd. Anything over $6, you let him walk. This team just can’t afford to throw money like that around. I’d rather keep Brate for the $7 million and draft a WR if needed or let Watson develop. BA sure has a lot of work cut out for him, but this team clearly has talent and some good pieces. Hopefully he can put this puzzle Together

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    • One of the reasons Arians came back to coaching is because the staff he wanted were pretty much all available. By every account I’ve read, BA likes to employ teachers, not just coaches. Helping guys like RoJo, Watson and Bobo get down the fundamentals is what these assistants do.

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  7. This is the year to change the attitude of the team. A tough thing to do when you have several players that have had two or three past coaches already with the Bucs.
    There are several players we can release who are being overpaid at this point in time as to what they actually bring to this team. Let’s get our cap backup and let the coach create a young and hungry team. We talked a lot about Licht’s drafting; I say that is not as terrible as made out, but what is bad is some players he has signed with huge contracts that weren’t necessary because of the players quality of play. I believe Licht’s weakness is negotiating with Agents and trading skills.

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    • Great point horse, which do you cut first?

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      • Jackson, ,Urien, E. Smith, Gholston, McCoy (unless he would take a big pay cut), Alexander (unless contract was reasonable), D. Smith (unless contract was reasonable);Dotson (as a backup and contract was reduced as to back up pay), wouldn’t have much patience with Hargreaves, Benenoch, Spence. There’s many more.

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        • Couple thoughts here – (1) Dotson is already paid basically like a backup or low-end starter at $4.8M. He’s not going to take less, and we shouldn’t ask him to. He had a down year, and it may be the beginning of his age-related decline, but his overall track record is strong enough, and our other needs are great enough in number, that I think we should give him a chance to rebound. (2) I agree with plenty of your cut candidates, but at the end of the day, every time you cut a guy, you have to sign someone else. Can’t just drop every single player on the roster who remotely underplayed their contract in 2019. It’s not feasible, unless you instead want to promote the guys who were only good enough to be their backups and bring in a ton of UDFA to take those places. Not enough resources available to us to address all the needs your cuts create.

          With that in mind, Hargreaves is one of the easier keeps on the roster. (1) I still believe in his talent, and (2) cutting him would create $0 in cap room, since his entire contract this year is guaranteed as a first round pick.

          I’d keep Benenoch as depth. Definitely need a new guy ahead of him, but off the bench, he’s affordable, and again, we can only create so many holes.

          I’m with you on Alexander and Donovan. Both somehow drastically overrated by the team, fans, and general football public.

          I could be wrong, but I think one of DeSean and McCoy stays and one goes. Probably DeSean staying, which if Arians thinks it’s best, I accept on faith.

          All those other guys are prime cut candidates, IMO. For some of them, I have no hope. For the rest, they need to step up big or hit the road.

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  8. RoJo is another reason why my faith in Licht has vanished.
    I really hope the guy succeeds and has a good year but what in the world are we drafting a RB with a high 2nd round pick who has never caught the ball much in college and that is one of the skills he needs to play in our offense.
    It’s mind boggling.

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  9. I am not sure if this is a reach or not but what if BA were to use OJ in that slot role like he did with Fitzgerald?? Size, speed and run blocking were the reasons he made the move with Fitzgerald. We could keep the receivers in their spots and take advantage of Brate against the linebackers too. Jimmy Graham was used similarly and it made a kind of hybrid TE/Receiver.

    I don’t see the ROI in keeping Hump for even 6mil with all of the needs we have on this Team. I even think Brate could be traded to say….NE??? They are losing Gronk and Brate’s value for what he is paid is high.

    What are your thoughts on these ideas???

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    • I would hate to see either of them go. But, the reality is, they are just luxuries. It felt weird calling them that since, 1, they are go to guys for Jameis, 2, they are both blue collar players.

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    • Philly I like your idea but I think Brate is the next name you’ll start hearing come up in trade talk, That only leaves OJ to play TE. I have always liked it when Koetter used to use Evans in the slot to take advantage of the mismatch. As Scott points out in the article BA may take that approach.

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  10. This is exactly what I have been talking about and what I am hoping for this season. This is the first time in years that we have had a completely new Staff to come in with fresh eyes and fresh ideas and completely re-evaluate our talent and stufmdy the tale and basically rebuild the team we already have.

    I am completely confident that when the season starts we will find out that we already have more talent than we ever realized and after FA and the Draft the holes that may have seemed glaring will be covered Uo with strengths… This offseason is going to be so exciting!!!

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  11. No problem Bruce Arians has the power of the force he’s like Obi-Wan Kenobi he can fix Jameis Winston’s turnover problem he can fix RoJo
    He can get Vita Vita in shape and turn him into a monster he can fix jpp’s hand and make him be able to not miss so many tackles.
    Bruce Arians will consult with Yoda and fix all these problems go ahead and release the five or six best players on this team so you can make cap space for Jameis cuz he will find others that can play just as well. . He can do all this because he’s Bruce Arians the same guy that took a team that was in NFC championship game Game the next season 8 and 8

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    • Get lots of thumbs down, this comment will. Lol.

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    • Jesus buc ass, you are probably the most miserable fan alive. You’re probably the type of person that turns on the AC in your house and then bitches because it’s too cold. If you don’t like anything, pick another team, you wouldn’t be missed I assure you.

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    • You gotta do research before you Troll… He’s got the largest staff we’ve ever had to turn pkaers around, no one is saying he will do it alone, and if you did research you would know that 8-8 team was one where they had lost Carson Palmer and a bunch of other players and still managed to go 500 and with the lineup he had he was proud of how they were able to do it with the 3rd string WB and a bunch of backups…

      That’s the kind of leadership he will bring, getting the most out of EVERYONE on the team…

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      • I’ve done my research he doesn’t have Carson Palmer here!!!!! . Doesn’t have anybody even close to Carson Palmer and they’re going to release a bunch of the good players.
        Joe Gibbs says head coach of a football team takes between 70 and 80 hours just to do the basics per week. Pewter boys got him fixing everything now he’s going to fix RoJo what you going to do glue some velcro to his hands and puts 30 pounds on him.

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        • Joe Gibbs was in another era; didn’t even know what a computer was much less internet.

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        • Again, you gotta read Buc-Ass, that’s what I said, Carson Palmer got hurt in the 8-8 season that you tried to use as a knock on BA. They went 8-8 with a 3rd string QB… You can’t just start to read a post and then try to argue against it.

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  12. With all respect I do think Bruce Arians is a good coach I do think he has his hands full when he was a quarterback coach he had time to work with a quarterback now he’s running the entire team he doesn’t have time to fix the entire team and I think he’s also happened to do some of the general manager’s job so just coaching the team is going to be enough for him.

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  13. I Love the idea of moving Godwin into the Slot… He is perfect for that role and we could reap the benefits… That could easily open up the outside spot for a speedy replacement for Jackson…

    Coleman or Peterson would be a great addition to the rungame. Any holes we could fill in FA would allow us to concentrate more on Oline and Secondary in the Draft…

    Bringing in the Jets kicker sounds like a great idea.

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  14. As OC, Bruce Arians used RB Willie Parker in Pittsburgh until they drafted RB Rashard Mendenhall. At WR the Steelers had AB and drafted WR Emmanual Sanders. Bruce was not retained by the Steelers in 2011 when his contract expired.

    In January of 2012 BA went to Indy and became the OC. The Colts notably drafted QB Luck(1st round), TE Coby Fleener(2), TE Dwayne Allen(3), WR TY Hilton(3), and RB Vick Ballard(5). Bruce took over as Interim HC for Chuck Pagano who took the year off to fight cancer. He won Coach of the Year after guiding a rookie led team to the playoffs in his first year.

    He was obviously a hot commodity and earned his first NFL head coaching job for Arizona in 2013. That year the Cards drafted OG Jonathan Cooper(1), LB Kevin Minter(2), S Tyrann Mathieu(3), LB Alex Okefor(4), OG Earl Watford(4), RB Stefan Taylor(5), WR Eric Swope(6a), Andre Ellington(6b). Cards went from 5-11 in 2012 to 10-6 in 2013.

    I think we’re going to see lots of similarities between the Colts and Arizona turnarounds. I think Licht drops back a few spots and gets Arians a little more early round ammuntion. I think the Bucs will draft LB’s, DL, and OL in the early rounds. I think the Bucs will draft a speed receiver and a couple of RB’s late. I think the draft will look like his AZ draft.

    I think the 2019 product on the field could look like the 2012 Colts on offense and the 2013 Cards on defense. I like the idea that SR put forth about the slot role going to a guy like Godwin, but why not use OJ in that capacity also? The offense can feature 1RB, 2 WR, 2 TE (with OJ in the slot getting vertical).

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    • …my comment submitted a bit early…

      I think the offense is mostly built and will be able to score on anyone. I think BA and Licht bring in a blue chip road grading guard in the 2nd or 3rd round. I think the biggest changes will come from revamping the defense to fit what TB wants to do. Linebackers and defensive line are strengths of the draft and its perfect timing for Tampa to implement a new system.

      Cant wait to watch it unfold.

      Go Bucs!

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  15. Can anyone imagine being a child and having BucAssbob as a parent.
    You would want to live in a permanent state of cognitive disassocation.
    Please, Pewter Report gurus, ban this annoying troll.

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    • He’s just frustrated…and allergic to punctuation. His comments are funny run on sentence mysteries from a guy that has had way too many cups of Hater-ade!

      Three cheers for Buc-Ass-Bob!!

      Go Bucs!

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    • He would probably boo his own daughter’s dance recital or his son’s trumpet solo.

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  16. Understand the rookie contract is to allow teams to work out problems with players before they get big bucks here is my question to the Pewter boys please Trevor CG Masters Chef bo ho ho Fedster bucray . All of you feel free to chime in buc ass Bob asks one simple question if Jameis Winston isn’t broken why does Bruce Arians need to fix him what morons give a broken player 21 million dollars.

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    • I just figured it out. BOB is Mrs. Grimes. You had us all fooled, Miko. But now I’m on to you.

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      • Every time Miko oops I mean Buc ass opens his mouth something funny comes out. I say let’s encourage him to stay around, because I’m still looking for his twin brother Naplefan.

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        • Yes, where is Naples these days? I miss him. Miss good ol’ BF47 too. Is it possible that Bob is them?

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      • No, no, no, good sir. We’ve established that bob is actually DeSean Jackson. It’s why he hates Winston so much. Lol

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  17. If you look at the blocking on Rojo’s runs last year, he had no chance. Barry Sanders wouldn’t have done any better. Improve the blocking and Rojo will be amazing.

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  18. Barber ran behind the same line last year and he was able to get in some good runs at times last year, Rojo ran behind the same line but his vision was lacking and he looked scared at times dropping passes in the backfield…I hope Rojo was just having a bad rookie season but I’m not so sure if he can be the guy, I hope he proves me wrong but he showed little improvement throughout the season last year while RB is supposed to be one of the easier positions to transition from college to NFL.

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  19. To my way of thinking, we can’t really make any legitimate prognostications until we find out more of what Bruce Arians and his new coaching staff are looking for. About the only legitimate pieces of information both the fans, like me, and the pundits at Pewter Report and other sites have at their disposal is the salary cap situation. Clearly, DeSean Jackson’s $10 million for limited production needs to do on down the road, but even that might change if Arians can work some motivational magic. We’ll know more when free agency hits and we see what kind of splash or not the Bucs make.

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  20. Bob reminds me of a child that knows what he’s saying is stupid and makes zero sense but craves any attention even negative.

    He must be a joy to live with. Beats a dead horse over and over and just spews idiotic non sense and never admits he’s wrong. Same old idiotic crap over and over.

    Oh and Vea isn’t out of shape moron your the only one that thinks that.

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    • I also think Vea is a fat out of shape guy but i wont call you moron

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      • Big guy looked pretty good to me. Sapp was fat and played OK.

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  21. Beat up on Bob day. look at the 40 year history yucks have earned plenty of hater-ade. Both ownership families are to blame 30+ yrs of losing. the fans should hold this team to higher standard. beat up the ownerships.

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    • I have never understood why fans blame the owners while still rooting for the same team. It’s like blaming Ford for building a crappie engine but then you go out and buy a brand new f150. Just go buy a Chevy or root for another team and all your problems will go away. Blaming the ownership is fruitless because you can’t fire owners.

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  22. Love your name 40+ year fan and you make a good point, especially with your name.
    Strange how you were as to do that without annoying anybody whereas Bob is incapable of doing the same.
    Bob also makes his insults cheap and very personal since he can hide behind his computer screen.
    We all know the type.

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  23. The Bucs could go back to Clemson and either draft late or sign as an undrafted free agent Hunter Renfro, he certainly has similarities in his game to Humphries.

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    • Check out SR’s take on the slot weapon in Arians offense…

      https://www.pewterreport.com/bucs-pewter-nation-podcast-episode-108-cuts-catches-and-captains/

      Suffice it to say, he’s doesn’t use his slot weapon that way. When Hump moves on, he will not be replaced with a cloned version basically.

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  24. Can sombody please tell me why this dumb buc ass wont just find his ass a new team???

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    • I’m not sure if the ‘Fins have a similar site to PR, but if they do, we would probably see a commentor on there from a few yrs back named something stupid like FIN-ASS-FRANK. I’m telling y’all, BOB is Miko Grimes

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  25. BA and Licht don’t want to tip there hand too much but its going to be pretty obvious after March 15 when they have to make a decision on LT Smith and LB Kwon Alaxander. For all the critics losing anyone of these two will leave a huge hole in the line up.

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  26. I just can’t imagine not drafting O-line and D-line with the first 2 if not 3 picks. All the more reason to trade back in the 1st round so that we have an extra pk or 2 which would allow us to get a RB in the early rounds. Arians keeps saying we have a lot of skilled players which is true but we once again have to get better in the trenches. Coach Dungy always believed in building a team from the trenches out and I love that philosophy. With that said we still have to address the RB position and IMO we need to pick one up in FA and we need to draft one. Bring in Adrian Peterson, keep Barber for the tough yards, Rojo will get better and I am confident Arians will know how to use him, and lastly we need to draft one (I like Singletary out of FAU).

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  27. I’m negative because I grew up in Denver watching the Denver Broncos a team that fired two head coaches for losing Super Bowls we’re sold out stadiums where the noise grounded out the opposing team to where they couldn’t hear the plays being called and then I go to the Bucs game and there’s more fans for the other team I feel bad for them I want the Buccaneers to win and be strong as now this team is 31st in attendance these pathetic owners in general manager have taken this team to the bottom and nobody says anything everybody talks about a tweak here and there now they think Bruce Arians a 66 year old man is going to fix the whole organization I would dream to see the Buccaneers be winners Buccaneer fans drowning out the opposing team’s play calling that’s what NFL football is about.

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    • You get a lot of people fighting your line of thinking, but I enjoy your perspective. You do make some good points.

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    • Don’t worry bob, even though people view you negatively, I enjoy the discussions you sometimes bring here..like I said before, I know you just want to win.

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    • Me too Bob. It’s not easy being a Bucs fan.

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  28. Dan Reeves and Mike Shanahan got it. The Bucs have fired Dungy, Gruden and I’ll just throw in Sam Wyche while we are talking about Super Bowl coaches who got fired. Your point is moot if you are suggesting that your negativety comes from the fact that you believe the Bucs are not trying to Win.

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  29. Good job of laying out many options Scott. I wish BA would watch the Kentucky vs. Florida game last year. Kentucky ran all over Florida with Benny Snell Jr. who reminded me of Cook. Snell can do it all. However he has been flying under the radar and was not in any all star game so he may fall to the last day of the draft. With a good line Snell could be a thousand yard rusher next year and also contribute in the passing game. He would be the best option for very little cost for the next four years.

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  30. Some guys prefer blondes, some guys prefer brunettes.

    Arians? He likes 5th round running backs. I would make a gentlemen’s bet that he and Jason take one in the 5th this year.

    I do like the idea of bringing in a veteran to ensure there’s a strong stable.

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  31. BucAss, 40plus and I have been here longer than you so we can certainly commisserate with you.
    But you don’t see us teeing off on everything that happens with the team with a negative spin and with so much personal venom directed with such personal animosity.
    I too cringe at the number of opposing team fans who populate the game, especial,y those in the lower bowl where the high end season ticket holders seem to be more than happy to sell their tickets as long as they can make a profit.
    The rich have no loyalty to anything other than a dollar.

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    • That’s my main complaint about the “stadium experience”. I get annoyed every game for having to endure the unfriendly surroundings of so many opposing fans. That and the almost certainty of losing the game causes many to choose to stay home and watch on TV. Unfortunately, they buyer for those tickets is more than likely a fan from the opponent.

      No need to look down your nose at who you are calling, “high end” and “rich”. I’m not going to apologize for having a high enough priority since being a ticket holder from the beginning and being successful enough to purchase my 6 seats. Many times over the years they weren’t affordable, but I still bought them. I used my beer, cigarette and tattoo money.

      A lot of those tickets you reference are owned by businesses who give them to clients and employees. Many who wouldn’t be able to go otherwise.

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  32. We can’t sign Hunt because he’s not PC. But now Adrian Peterson is PC? I hate this country

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    • I’ll go with the famous Metallica quote here: Kill em all

      Adrian “ Grandpappy” peterson isn’t coming here. Kareem “I barely even kicked that b*tch” Hunt isn’t either.

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    • I mean, time does matter. Hunt’s wrongdoing’s are much more recent than Peterson’s. I don’t know exactly what that’s worth, but it is worth something. One guy has had time to show he didn’t repeat his past mistakes, while the other hasn’t. Pretty simple.

      Not really advocating for signing Peterson in this discussion, just saying that (for a random example) a guy who did something bad 5 years ago and has since not done clearly bad things is easier to bring on with a clear conscience than a guy who did something bad 5 months ago is.

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  33. I’m very hopeful for RoJo. I have no doubt that Arians, Leftwich, and Goodwin will put him in the best position to succeed they can with the line we end up with. Whether or not that will be enough to lead to success for him remains to be seen. He has some things he has to fix about his game in order to maximize his potential, but I do believe in his talent.

    I have no interest in Ingram. He feels like a prime “quick dropoff” RB. At 29 years old, I’d rather just avoid him. Coleman at the right price is interesting due to his versatility, but it’s tough to justify with our whole host of other needs. I don’t see it for Powell or Yeldon, due to their middling talent and age concerns with Powell. Oddly, I’d be open to Peterson on a low-paying, one-year deal. As many times as we’ve been linked to him, this is the first I’d entertain the idea of actually signing him. Only because he may be super cheap, with only the one year required to commit, and even then, it wouldn’t be guaranteed, so if he looked questionable in camp, you cut him free and clear. And if he repeats last year, you get a big win at a low price tag.

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  34. Agree with you on Hump, Scott. I love the guy and what he does, but for THIS team, right now, he likely just isn’t worth the cost. We could probably make it happen, but at what cost elsewhere on the roster? An upgrade at starting RG is worth more than having a great #4 or #5 option in the passing game. Same for a new slot CB, starting safety, MLB, or pass rushing/rotational DE. The salary cap is, obviously, a zero sum game. With our financial resources limited this year, I can’t make it make sense to keep him here, as much as I wish we could.

    Now, a bit more on the cap…you laying out the numbers for our receivers this year sparked this idea for me. Do you think Licht would consider doing what he did with Vincent Jackson by converting a portion of Mike’s enormous $20M cap number into a signing bonus? If he turned, say, $10M into a signing bonus, that would lower his cap number to just $12M this year and only raise the remaining years on his deal by $2M each. I know it’s risky, but with Evans still being so young (he’s 25 right now), it seems less risky than it might be for some other veterans. With the crunch we’re experiencing, I really like this idea, whether it’s $10M, less, or more. Just something to help the team plug the holes right now, in this pivotal first year for Arians and his staff.

    Thought?

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  35. Fab1: No blocking and misuse of Rojo’s skillset created a serious confidence issue. The Oline needs help for this and 20 other reasons.

    Fab2: AJ Ajayi, TJ Yeldon, Mike Davis all make sense to me in FA. A draftee RB/KR/PR in later rounds makes too much sense too.

    Fab3: I think Hump goes to the highest bidder which won’t be the Bucs. We’ll need another WR in FA or Draft (because Hump and Jackson are both goners.) I think it’s time for someone to get Kevin White in for a risk-it-no-biscuit-deal… Bryant, Matthews and Nelson also make sense to me.

    Fab4: Robbie Gould and Aldrick Rosas (ERFA) are both worth looking at for the kicking job. I would love to see some creativity coupled with sound, aggressive play in our ST’s…

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