FAB 2. The Case For Drafting James At No. 7

The last time the Buccaneers spent a first-round draft pick on a safety it was a disaster.

In 2012, Tampa Bay selected Mark Barron – also known as the guy that was picked instead of linebacker Luke Kuechly – with the seventh overall selection. Barron lasted two and a half years with the Bucs before former head coach Lovie Smith deemed him not to be a fit in his Tampa 2 scheme and traded him to St. Louis.

Former Bucs SS Mark Barron - Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR
Former Bucs SS Mark Barron – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

Barron notched 225 tackles, 19 passes defensed, three interceptions, two sacks and one forced fumble in Tampa Bay before becoming a Ram where he was moved to linebacker in 2015. In his St. Louis-Los Angeles career, Barron has recorded 338 tackles, 18 passes defensed, six sacks, five interceptions and three forced fumbles, and earned a five-year, $45 million contract extension in 2016 that included $20 million and a $5 million signing bonus.

Although he hasn’t been selected to a Pro Bowl, Barron has become a very good player for the Rams – but not at safety where he was originally drafted to play. The Bucs have nothing to show for Barron or the fourth- and sixth-round picks he was traded for in 2014.

Ironically, the Buccaneers have the seventh overall pick again and could spend it on a safety, which was a position of need that was not addressed in free agency outside of re-signing reserve Keith Tandy.

In last week’s SR’s Fab 5 we discussed how a potential trade up by Buffalo for a quarterback could force one of Tampa Bay’s top tier prospects – North Carolina State defensive end Bradley Chubb, Notre Dame guard Quenton Nelson or Penn State running back Saquon Barkley – down to the Bucs at No. 7.

But there is another player that Tampa Bay will certainly consider with the seventh overall selection – and that’s Florida State safety Derwin James.

Notice how I didn’t say Alabama defensive back Minkah Fitzpatrick?

From what I’ve been able to gather, the team has James, whose pro day on Tuesday was attended by general manager Jason Licht, ranked as the top safety on the Bucs’ draft board – not Fitzpatrick. While Fitzpatrick may be a versatile football player, capable of playing free safety, strong safety and slot cornerback, James is regarded as the superior athlete of the two and a better strong safety, which is where Tampa Bay has a pressing need.

FSU SS Derwin James – Photo by: Getty Images

The Bucs have just four safeties on the roster – starting free safety Justin Evans, strong safety Chris Conte and reserves Keith Tandy and Isaiah Johnson – and want to find someone to compete with Conte for the right to start opposite Evans. But is there value in drafting a safety with the seventh overall pick?

The goal of any team drafting in the first round, especially in the top 10, is to select an impactful Pro Bowl-caliber player. If Chubb, Nelson and Barkley are gone, then a player like James or Washington defensive tackle Vita Vea comes into play for Tampa Bay.

“I just feel like I am the best player in this draft,” James said at his pro day workout at Florida State. “There is no question.”

While Fitzpatrick may have better ball skills at this stage of his career, James is the more ferocious player. He’s an angry tackler and a punishing hitter in the box, the perimeter or across the middle of the field.

Jacksonville Pro Bowl cornerback Jalen Ramsey, a former Seminoles star, was on-hand to see James and his former teammates perform in front of throngs of NFL scouts and raved about James’ ability.

“Derwin could probably even have more of an impact than I had,” Ramsey said. “Derwin is easily going to go down as one of the greatest – if not the greatest – safeties to ever come through Florida State. What he has done and what he has put on film speaks for itself. What he has done through the whole draft process – Combine, pro day – he really has nothing left to prove. He has done everything he needs to do. He will be an impact player from Day 1 as a rookie. Whatever teams that decides they want to draft him, they are going to get a hell of a player. He has the ability to be a Pro Bowl, All-Pro (player) from his rookie year on throughout his career. He is that good of a player.

“When I was here at Florida State he was only a freshman and he was the best safety I ever played with. He was really one of the only safeties I trusted over the top. What he is going to do at the next level, it will definitely speak for itself. Actions definitely speak louder than words, people will see. All the teams that pass on him – it’s not smart, first of all – but they are going to come back and pay for it later on.”
That’s quite the endorsement.

FSU SS Derwin James - Photo by: Getty Images
FSU SS Derwin James – Photo by: Getty Images

James dazzled at the NFL Scouting Combine where he ran a 4.47 time in the 40-yard dash and checked in at 6-foot-3, 215 pounds. The Haines City, Fla. native showed how explosive of an athlete he is with a 40-inch vertical, an 11-foot broad jump and benching 21 reps of 225 pounds.

Put on the film and James displays hard-hitting ability in run support with six games featuring double-digit tackles and emerging awareness and playmaking ability in the passing game.

James just four tackles in a 26-19 win at Wake Forest, but it was his game-saving pass breakup in the end zone on the game’s last play that made the biggest impact. He had a career-high four pass breakups and an interception in a 27-24 home win over Syracuse, but it was his onside kick recovery as a member of Florida State’s “hands team” with just seconds left that sealed the Seminoles’ win.

Aside from helping the Bucs’ run defense and pass coverage, which ranked dead last in the league last year, James can also help Tampa Bay’s pass rush, which was also the worst in the NFL with just 22 sacks. James was an effective blitzer at FSU where he recorded 5.5 career sacks, including 4.5 as a freshman.

The Bucs need to have more success rushing the passer in 2018 and blitzing a player like James could have an impact. Tampa Bay only had two defenders that weren’t linemen – linebackers Kendell Beckwith and Adarius Glanton – record sacks last year. Two of the best teams at getting to the quarterback – New Orleans (42 sacks) and Baltimore (41 sacks) – often blitz their safeties. The Saints had eight sacks from the safety position, led by Von Bell’s 4.5, while the Ravens had 4.5 sacks from safety, led by 2.5 sacks from Tony Jefferson.

NFL media types and draft pundits often compare James to the likes of the late Sean Taylor, Eric Berry and Kam Chancellor, in addition to Ramsey, who played by safety at cornerback at Florida State.

“People try to compare us at times, but I don’t think it’s fair,” Ramsey told Bleacher Report. “My versatility was with corner, nickel and free safety. But Derwin’s is strong safety, free safety, linebacker and defensive end. Derwin is a freak. He can do pretty much everything.”

FSU strength and conditioning coach Vic Viloria took the James comparisons a step further.

“I think if you take all the attributes of all the best ones, combine it into one, you’re getting close to Derwin,” Viloria told NFL.com. “He’s got strength like (Nigel) Bradham. He’s got the desire to chase the deep ball like (Lamarcus) Joyner, competitiveness like Jameis (Winston). His ability to hit and be strong for a skill player is like Jalen (Ramsey). … His acceleration is freakish; it’s that of a Devonta Freeman. … You can keep going down the list.”

FSU SS Derwin James - Photo by: Getty Images
FSU SS Derwin James – Photo by: Getty Images

James has all the physical tools Tampa Bay needs to do it all on the field, but it’s his mental makeup when it comes to his competitiveness and leadership ability that might intrigue Licht and the Bucs the most. The Bucs had accountability issues on defense last year. Pro Bowl defensive tackle Gerald McCoy admitted that.

During his three years at Florida State, including a sophomore season that ended due to a knee injury after two games, James was the leader of the Seminoles defense after Ramsey left.

“Everybody pretty much knows everything Derwin is capable of,” Seminoles cornerback Tavares McFadden said. “He is a great football player. He is a great player off the field, too. He is one of those guys – he is a high-caliber guy, but he is going to stay the same no matter what. Derwin is a great leader off the field. He keeps people out of trouble. He is very accountable for other guys. Derwin is a vocal leader and he is just one of those guys you just want to follow. He also leads by example, and not to mention how he plays. He plays hard all the time. He’s one of those freak athletes, but whoever is drafting Derwin is getting a great one.”

Florida State defensive end Josh Sweat agreed with McFadden about James’ presence.

“He is an accountable guy,” Sweat said. “He does what he needs to do. He is definitely going to make an impact (in the NFL). We all know what he can do on the field. You can’t go wrong. That is what I tell other teams that ask about him. Big-time accountability. Most definitely (he held others accountable).”

James’ personality is akin to that of Winston or Bucs Pro Bowl middle linebacker Kwon Alexander. He’s an upbeat, outspoken player that others naturally gravitate towards. Another guy like that is needed in the locker room, and especially in the secondary.

“I don’t mind saying something (to vets),” James said. “I lead by two ways. I lead by example first and foremost on and off the field. And when things aren’t going right or we need a spark, I am that alpha dog in the locker room that is going to get everybody going. I do the best I can do.”

Florida State S Derwin James - Photo by: Getty Images
Florida State S Derwin James – Photo by: Getty Images

Alpha.

That word is used a lot to describe James’ attitude and leadership ability, such as in Lance Zierlein’s scouting report on NFL.com.

“Absolute alpha in the locker room. Comes up to handle film sessions on weekends. When he talks, players listen. Hits all the height, weight, speed marks you want for an early-round safety. Extremely versatile weapon. Can be deployed anywhere on the field on any given snap. Rangy with ability to chase throws from deep middle. Quick to squeeze routes approaching his area of influence. Doesn’t just look to hit, he looks for the football once he ranges to the spot. Used in hybrid role near the line of scrimmage. Reliable in his fits and standing up to the run or peeling off and covering tight ends. Savvy blitzer with speed and athleticism to get home. Smooth, loose movement allows for coverage potential against big slots. Careful to leverage ball carriers to the sideline and won’t give away an inside cutback. Pursuit strides are fluid and powerful. Solid open-field tackler with reactive athleticism to handle late elusiveness.”

James is an alpha with attitude.

“I do believe I am the best player in the country,” he says. “I make people around me better.

“I give them all I’ve got. They give me all they’ve got. I just like to push them to the limits. I just tell them, ‘I’m going to get you better every day. Y’all get me better.’ I’m going to get it out of them one way or the other.”

Longtime Bucs radio play-by-play announcer Gene Deckerhoff also handles the play-by-play duties for Florida State radio and saw James’ leadership ability affect others.

“You need to have a player like Derwin James to direct traffic, and make his teammates play to the level he knows they can play,” Deckerhoff told FSUNews.com. “That’s what he brings to the table.”

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Scott Reynolds is in his 25th year of covering the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the vice president, publisher and senior Bucs beat writer for PewterReport.com. Author of the popular SR's Fab 5 column on Fridays, Reynolds oversees web development and forges marketing partnerships for PewterReport.com in addition to his editorial duties. A graduate of Kansas State University in 1995, Reynolds spent six years giving back to the community as the defensive line coach for his sons' Pop Warner team, the South Pasco Predators. Reynolds can be reached at: [email protected]
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CrustyClam

Well said. Well written. We may not go to the big game, but I believe a little more than I did last season.

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tomcin

Let me just say, I believe CB is a higher priority than S. With that being said I would draft a pure CB Denzil Ward before James or Kirkpatrick. I would also cut underachieving sackless & might I say worthless Gholston.

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FLBoy84

Not disagreeing that he needs to step up, but there’s no salary cap relief by cutting Gholston, as his $6.5M is already guaranteed for 2018. Only thing you’re doing is just weakening your depth. While he’s not a QB hunter, he is solid in setting the edge and defending the run.

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BadgerW4

I’m right there with you, despite what will no doubt be a slew of downvotes. Allow this to be me going on record saying Ward will be a better NFL player than James. It’s my personal belief taking James at 7 would be a HUGE error, but I’d be very happy with getting Ward there. I’m not as high on Golston as others, either, but for now he’ll have to do due to the guaranteed money.

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plopes808

We’re on the hook this year either way, so we may as well keep him for depth and versatility. We can still use him as a rotational DE/DT and cut him with no loss next year after we have time to find a worthy replacement.

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buddah

Licht’s having a great off-season. Good essay on James. I’m ok with either James or Fitzpatrick. Skip the politics. I don’t come here for that. I come here to get away from the incessant political divisions currently plaguing our country. My partisanship is to the Buccaneers.

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e

Nice work, Scott! I do like James, but the whole “ferocious hitter” thing in today’s NFL is becoming a liability. I do like his leadership and other abilities, where I would put him above Vea. I really think though, that the QBs are going to go pretty quickly before the Bucs get their choice of Chubb, Nelson or Barkley… (most likely Barkley?). So, would you take Barkley or James at that point? Tough choice. I still hope that the scenario leads to a sliding QB at #7 and the Bucs end up trading back for more picks. On your other… Read more »

Devasher

As a FSU fan/alum, NO to Derwin James at 7. He’s a clear notch below the top 3 non QB’s, he didn’t have a good year last year and FSU’s defense was largely hot garbage as the barely held on to a 36 year bowl streak. Trade down to the teens and take him? Fine. Want to compare Derwin James to Sean Taylor? Sure, Sean Taylor had 10 Interceptions his Junior year at Miami and 14 interceptions, 3 TD’s (included in that 2 Int’s in the CFB championship game) in his two year playing career there. Miami was a very… Read more »

Bucsfan1983

I guess you forgot James was coming off of a season ending knee injury the year before. You can’t blame him for FSU’s defense being so poor. That is a 100% on former DC Charles Kelly.

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Devasher

So you’re telling me that James coming off a major knee injury and being less explosive last year gives me more reason to support why he should be a top 10 pick at safety? Do tell! And believe me, Charles Kelly was an atrocious DC whom I actively wanted replaced halfway through his first sesaon ruining the defense. That said, it wasn’t as though Derwin James was making big plays in between the blown coverages that plagued the defense. He just wasn’t. If you want to gamble 7 overall on a player that hasn’t shown that he’s game changer in… Read more »

cgmaster27

Less explosive Devasher? Did you miss the combine I assume? James did not lose a step. For those who don’t watch FSU football, which I’m guessing you don’t. The defensive scheme and coaching was awful at FSU last year, ask any Noles fan. James was never asked to blitz like his first year and still came out the number one rated cover safety in college football last year. So no, he hasn’t lost anything. No one is comparing his game to Taylor. Sean Taylor is one of the greatest ever. But you can book it that James will be a… Read more »

cgmaster27

Sorry, didn’t see you’re an FSU fan on there. It was clear to most FSU fans that the coaching had everything to do with blown coverage’s last year. And most players, not saying James, didn’t even bust their asses as coach Fisher had two feet out the door by week 3 of last year. Just my opinion, but James wold be an easy choice if the big three of Chubb, Barkley, and Nelson are gone. We need a strong safety badly and our secondary is now our weakest link on this team. Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating00 No votes… Read more »

Devasher

So far Bucsfan1983 said “I guess you forgot James was coming off a season ending injury the year before” in reply to my post stating “and 10-3 the year he largely missed due to his knee injury, so tell me how big an impact he was on the overall record.” cgmaster writes “For those who don’t watch FSU football, which I’m guessing you don’t.” in reply to the original post where I open with “As a FSU fan/alum” If y’all can’t be bothered to actually read what I’m typing what is the point of arguing with you? Yes, I’ve watched… Read more »

Darin

So part of it was the coaching and defensive scheme was awful last year? Sound familiar? I’d say the exact same thing to sum up the bucs season. Smith, for whatever reason, cant seem to coach up the secondary. Now some of that is the lack of pass rush but most is on him. You dont have guys lining up 10 yards off, then when asked about it say its up to the players. Umm what? Its his defense. How is James gona be a pro bowler every year if the bucs coaching doesnt improve? Maybe you have a higher… Read more »

Bucsfan1983

Did you not watch the Combine? He absolutely killed it. He finally has that burst back. It wasn’t nearly where it’s at now, during much of the 2017 season. Derwin is definitely a top 10 talent. James is like a much bigger Honey Badger mixed with some Kam Chancellor. While Mathieu was a 3rd round pick in 2013, he slipped due to some red flags including some failed drug tests for pot. IIRC he’s stayed out of trouble since being in the league. Now let’s look at the Safeties that were drafted in round 1 in 2013. Kenny Vaccaro, Eric… Read more »

Devasher

So we are spending the 7th pick overall because of Derwin James combine performance? Well I’m glad that strategy has always panned out. It’s a good thing we’ve never heard of people who blow up the combine and fail to meet expectations. How’s John Ross doing btw? Isn’t he the fastest guy in the NFL? 😂 You brought up Mathieu so let’s compare. Honey Badger was a consensus all american, Chuck Bednarik award winner as best defensive player in college football and a freaking Heisman finalist as a true Sophomore. He forced 11 fumbles, had 4.5 sacks, 4 interceptions and… Read more »

Bucsfan1983

I’m glad SR and Trevor have come around on James. Like Mark Cook, I am also an FSU fan and have seen plenty of James in action. IF Chubb or Barkley aren’t there at 7, I take James over Nelson and Vea all day long!!

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stlbucsfan

The real concern I have with selecting Derwin James is Mike Smith. The number 7 pick should be someone that is expected to have an immediate impact on the team. The way Mike Smith handled the safety position last year with veteran players was atrocious. We entered the season rotating players at a position that requires continuity. Also Mike Smiths defense was so vanilla last season that he did his players no favors most Sundays. I have little confidence that he would get Derwin on the field enough to have the impact needed at 7. Also I haven’t seen anything… Read more »

Devasher

As far as Scott “O Reilly” Reynolds Fab 4 is concerned….could you maybe just announce that the political Fab is hidden in the Pirates Cove? It could be like a treasure hunt, where Bucs fans can hear all about Scott’s views on politics and religion but only if they make the effort to go and find it. I do continue to find it interesting that Scott has expressed outrage over players kneeling due to it happening during NFL games (for which his argument would be that it is a business) then simultaneously wax poetic about his political thoughts or religion… Read more »

cgmaster27

While it’s the players right to do as they please, you clearly aren’t seeing the business angle of this whole thing. The NFL ratings went down last year because of the kneeling, that’s a fact. When you own a business, would you take an employee who is just as good as another minus the ability of the other person to LOSE you money? That’s common sense and business. People seem to keep forgetting that’s the NFL is; a business. If your boss tells you to do something at your job, you do it or you get fired, that’s how it… Read more »

Devasher

Last I checked PR is a business too and the owner of this business is Hugh MacArthur not “O Reilly” Reynolds. I occasionally follow the podcast of JBF, which in my opinion is not nearly as good as the one PR puts out. However, I’ve heard them proclaim themselves the most followed Bucs pod and/or Bucs site in the past. If Scott’s political diatribes have turned off some readers who have found less political alternatives to listen to or read, isn’t that the same thing as the reduction of viewership of the NFL? Isn’t Scott then doing the same to… Read more »

Bucsfan1983

Mike Smith or not, Derwin James will make an impact from day 1. He’s a great teammate, vocal leader and a straight dog on the field.

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FLBoy84

Mentioned yesterday that JPP is the closest player to Simeon Rice the Bucs have had since, well, Simeon Rice. Read the Giants SB Nation blog yesterday and most of their fans were glad to get rid of him, even though he friggin’ had 68 tackles and 8.5 sacks last year!!! They’ve obviously been spoiled with solid DE play over the years. Guess one man’s trash really is another man’s treasure. Juiced to see the revamped DL in action under Buckner and think it’ll free up our LB corp to make even more plays, as well as helping out the DB’s.… Read more »

FLBoy84

Speaking of DB’s, our top four CB’s right now are Grimes, VH3, Smith and Elliott. Other than Breeland (who is prob out another 3-4 months), DRC and Breaux there’s not much left on the FA CB market at the moment. Love what Jason has done so far, but curious what kind of rabbit he’s going to pull out of his hat to address the position. Definitely think he’ll draft one next month, but hard to rely on rookie CB’s in year 1. Hoping Grimes’ health holds out all year.

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Buc 1976

With most of FA signings on the Defensive side IMO the Bucs will draft offensive players mostly RB, G or tackle.

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FLBoy84

Being that we still have multiple holes to fill, would be really hard imo to be disappointed if the Bucs took Nelson, Barkley, Chubb, James, Ward or even Vea if they don’t get an offer to their liking to trade down. As long as we come out of the first two rounds with starters to fill two of those holes , as well as JPP to show for the 3rd, I’m good.

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Benjamin

If Chubb and Nelson are gone then please please take Derwin James. I am not sold on Barkley plus i do not like the idea of taking a RB at 7. There are so many good rb’s in this years draft that we can get a very good one in rounds 2 or 3 and take the best non RB at 7. If we had our defense completely fixed then I’d be ok with taking Barkley but i feel taking James, Vea, or Ward in the first round and grabbing Michel, Nick Chubb, or Guice in the 2nd or 3rd… Read more »

Dude

You must have not watched Barkley play much last year, I take it. He is the complete package. He’s fast, can cut on a dime, and possibly take it to the house on any carry. Then you add his size, stellar blocking skills, with good hands coming out of the backfield, he is a rare player, and better than Elliott, or Cook,the top drafted running backs from the previous two drafts. Imagine if he falls to us like Howard did last year? Our offense would be set for many years to come with the great young nucleus we would have… Read more »

Dy-nasty D

Love the football article.
Hate the a,m radio political rant.

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sunshineben

Scott..Did the bucs actually contact Gruden to be the bucs coach.? what was stated by him in Ca. was he never had an offer from the bucs,Gruden will always be a bucs hero so i’d like to know

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Horse

Scott; not one word about Kansas State Basketball team making it to the Elite Eight? Fab 4 ruined the Article for me, but I understand Scott is a serious Trump guy and I encourage him and others like him support and vote for Trump after all he is a good Christian, devoted husband,family man. He’s been a wonderful business man; after all, he loves to take other peoples money and ignore paying creditors. Best of all he builds, condo’s for the purpose of money laundering for the Russian and other mafia connected countries for decades. Some of you Trump supporters… Read more »

Dude

“Good philosophy must exist, if for no other reason, because bad philosophy needs to be answered.” —C. S. Lewis Scott did his due diligence, what about you? What, or who, do you stand up for? Or do you just troll around looking to cut people down for their belief’s that are different from yours? You do realize that he has the right to write about what he wants on ‘his’ website, right? If you don’t agree, then focus on the things in the article that you do like. Or you can just ignore it, or go away, and make like… Read more »

Devasher

Dearest Dude, Last I checked, Scott “O Reilly” Reynolds was not the majority owner of Pewter Report but rather Hugh MacArthur was (maybe there’s been a change). So it’s Hugh’s site, not Scott’s (or at least it was). Is Bill, er Scott’s goal to try to get more political discourse into this Bucs site? If so, is that something you, the Dude fully support? Do you want PR to be a place where fans of the Bucs can not only talk Bucs football and the draft but the latest thing Scott saw on Fox & Friends? Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb… Read more »

Horse

How about he just uses it what is supposed to be about which is the Buccaneers as to sports.

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Devasher

Isn’t it ironic Horse, that Scott’s writings lead to political discourse, the same discourse he would rather not have if it comes from players in the NFL and a viewpoint he doesn’t share? Republican or Democrat, I would hope Bucs fans can agree on one thing: the Glazer Babies’ general incompetence is largely to blame for the past 10+ years of pathetic play an zero playoff appearances for this team. So if the spoiled children of Malcolm, who’s greatest accomplishment in life is being born rich, strongly support something or someone, I’m happy to suggest they might be as wrong… Read more »

cgmaster27

Always support ya horse and love ya, but you fail to realize the MAIN reason Trump won is because the Democrats marched the most corrupt incompetent opposition to ever hit the presidential trail. Even with the media at her back she couldn’t win. People just got tired of the previous 8 years. As for con Jobs, look at the last 8 years, now THAT is a con job.

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e

How much of that was Russian bot action, CG? This guy is T-R-A-S-H.

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cgmaster27

If you really think bots of facebook decided this election, then I got some beach front property in Pennsylvania for you e. The left is still searching for reasons they lost when they thought they had it in the bag. Killary was a fraud and exposed as such. THAT is why the dems lost. Weather you like him or not, and I don’t as a person, people were tired of the last 8 years of PC crap and socialistic handouts. And Hillary was four more years of that. Your “bots” didn’t influence a darn thing. Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit… Read more »

Devasher

Scott, are you trying to get more posts like cgmaster’s above? Just let us know if this is the type of conversation you think is appropriate for Hugh’s website.

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Horse

I hear you but you and I are not putting something out like Scott does.

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JustaBuc

Ok, first off, let’s get the obvious out of the way first. The draft order at 7 you wrote about is mostly correct, but let’s be honest and say that with all the DLine signings there is basically no way we’re looking at Vea anymore. Our entire DLine is under contract for basically 3 years and it’s just a waste of resources to tie so much money and picks into one spot. The updated draft priority is probably Nelson -Chubb -Barkley -Trade -James -Ward. I’m even beginning to think that Chubb might be running 3rd at this point since next… Read more »

cgmaster27

Strong Fab five Scott. For Fab one,I love the JPP signing. His stats last year are crazy for getting used to doing it with one hand. He is automatically the best DE on our roster day one. With the signings of Curry as well as our new run stuffers, Licht has done a good job working on the tranches. I give him props for that as I was one of those clamoring for him to do something after we missed out on Robert Quinn. I was never a big fan of Bennett coming back as he is 33 years old… Read more »

cgmaster27

That wasn’t supposed to be a response to you JustaBuc sorry.

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JustaBuc

Nah, it’s all good my man.

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Brandonges

I would enjoy Pewter Report a lot more if I wasn’t forced to know that Scott is a hardline GOPer. Unfortunately, he feels the need to remind us every couple months or so.

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Buc 1976

WTH I thought this is a format for SPORTS NOT FING
POLITICS!!!

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Devasher

Fun fact: Raymond James Stadium, that privately owned palace was built completely by publicly funded money. Our community taxes undoubtedly helped to enrich the Glazers.

“Glazer never contributed a dime to stadium construction. ”

http://www.sptimes.com/News/012501/news_pf/SuperBowl2001/We_paid_for_it_it_pai.shtml

You’re welcome Glazer Babies.

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Charlie

I love the piece about calling out our toughness as a football team, obviously we have talked about the soft training camp and practices, but we also had some soft players. I think Jason Licht has improved that a bit this year so far as well. And I think the front office ranks the non QB players like this:
1: Nelson
2: Chubb
3: Barkley
4: Vea
5: James
And I wouldn’t be upset with any of those outcomes either.

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chetthevette

Exactly how I would pick em’.

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JustaBuc

But why would both of you pick Vea over James? Our entire DLine is under contract for 3 years. Unless you think there’s some complete catastrophic failure in the DLine, but even then Vea only really makes sense if you think Unrein and Allen are going to blow chunks. If JPP and Curry blow chunks, then we’ll probably just look to the next draft for DEs. Vea isn’t really a McCoy clone if you wanted to replace him as well. Vea is, imo, more suited to play the NT role. Sure, he MIGHT have some pass rush in him. But… Read more »

WinstonMVP

Great Fab 5 Scott. I’m ok with James if that’s who they choose. Obviously it depends on how the draft board falls. I love the moves Licht has made in FA. Cant wait for the draft! I hate politics in my sport’s but thanks for sticking up for one of our owners ( Bucs Related News) who had a political fund raiser in his home. That’s totally different than a player protesting during a televised game, during the national anthem at his JOB. Who protests at a job? If you do you should expect consequences in some form. That;s just… Read more »

Dman

I like the toughness angle. And I initially wanted to resign Pamphile. Looks like with only a 1 year deal from the Titans, everybody else saw what Licht/Koetter saw. For continuity on the O-Line, I move Marpet back to the right side where he was a stud, let’s stop moving the guy around. Draft or bring someone in to compete with Sweezy on the left side. As #7, go for the highest rated guy we think is a Pro Bowler. If that’s Chubb, Nelson, Barkley or any of the other guys, pull the trigger. If the guys available are only… Read more »

WinstonMVP

Fun Fact….. PFT: NFL stadiums have received an estimated $6.7 billion from taxpayers Posted by Michael David Smith on March 28, 2017, 9:23 AM EDT With Nevada kicking in $750 million to build the Raiders a new stadium, NFL teams have now received nearly $7 billion in tax money to build stadiums over the last two decades. According to an analysis from ESPN, the total price tag to taxpayers for building new stadiums and renovating old ones has been $6.7 billion since 1997. That includes 19 new stadiums and three major renovation projects. Not every team has received public money.… Read more »

Devasher

Oh, so you’re saying if you were a Bucs fan in the 80’s you had to like the Culverhouses? If you like Chick-Fil-A that means you believe in the same things the owners do? Is that so WinstonMVP? Tell me more about how I should live my life please. I appreciate your lessons. The Glazer Babies were some of the cheapest owners in the NFL the decade after Malcolm’s stroke. That is a fact, and it undoubtedly played a role in the team’s record thereafter. They made a bunch of poor decisions on coaches and GM’s and are rumored to… Read more »

Buc-n-Philly Fan

Devasher, you sound like a bittermen. Apparently capitalism is not your favorite. Would socialism be better for you? This way everyone else can work hard and we can take their money and redistribute it to those who would rather suck off the preverbeable tit.
Try not to hate so much on folks who have success no matter how they achieved it. It’s not a good look for you.

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cgmaster27

Don’t mind the snowflakes Buc-n-philly, they are still looking for safe places to vent.

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Devasher

Great use of ad-hominem cgmaster . When you have nothing of merit to say, just call people who disagree with you names 😂

Don’t worry guys, I watched Fox News too back in the day before it became unbearable. I know y’alls dog whistles and tricks.

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Devasher

Well Philly Fan,I have a bacherlors in economics, minored in business and have a higher net worth than most people, though I didn’t “earn” my wealth by being born into a rich family like our current very “successful” NFL owners. In fact, we’ve been winning so much since the Glazer Babies took the reigns from Malcolm (the guy who actually earned it and was a great owner) I’m tired of it 😂 But I love the straw man though. My point which you missed because of your own political filter and BS is that the public funded the stadium, the… Read more »

Hit55Fan

I dont login much anymore these days, I normally read from the outside.. Love the PR website and recommend it to any bucs fan I meet. Ill just come out and say it.. Jamele Hill is a Racist B**CH. ESPN has totally lost me as a viewer because of how bad that channel has become. The color of a persons skin was ALWAYS a non issue when it came to sports when I was growing up.. that was my brother on the team weather he was red, white, black or brown. yet this person and company continue to push the… Read more »

WinstonMVP

PFT: Eagles’ Michael Bennett indicted on felony charge of injuring elderly woman.

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cgmaster27

Yup the same guy some bucs fans were complaining we didn’t go after. The guy is a walking disaster.

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EastEndBoy

Good grief – I thought the last time (which was like the third time, I think) you said you’d stop the political posts Scott. But, okay: 1) “Trump? Don’t vote for him”…that completely misses the point that whether or not someone voted for him or didn’t, because they liked him or didn’t, nobody in America should be okay with the POTUS breaking the law (be that emoluments left right and center; prostitution, blackmail, obstruction of justice, etc.), repeatedly. I know your a huge Trumpie….I get that you love all of this red-meat America-first stuff he spouts out – but at… Read more »

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Well said, East.

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Horse

I agree with you, but it’s not going to stop Scott doing this; he believes he’s right and he has the right to believe it. I just wish he wouldn’t post on Pewter Report because I will just respond and I don’t like having to call out someone, especially when it has nothing to do with the Buccaneers and the game of football.

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WinstonMVP

Bucs fan since 1980 and i hated the previous owners because they were truly bad owners. The Glazers at least are trying hard to bring a good product. That don’t make them bad owners unless your just mad because of there political beliefs. Besides that I don’t know what your trying to say about telling you how to live your life. lol . I just said I’m sick of you whiners, hating, bashing fans. get a life. If you hate the Glazers because of there political beliefs that’s fine but it sounds like your whining about stuff that happen over… Read more »

chetthevette

Every time I purchase anything money comes out of my pockets.
Extra 1 cent sales tax county wide Hillsborough County, so, yeah I pay for the stadium.
Also, people have been harsh on the Glazers ,not great football minds but think they try.
GO BUCS

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Horse

Chetthevette, agree with you. The Glazer’s have given alot to the community.

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Devasher

Robert Kraft is friends with Trump right? Best owner in the game and it’s kinda easy to see, given the objective W-L record which could care less about BS arguments of “they try.” As I said, the children of Malcolm most certainly weren’t trying when they cheaped out on the roster for almost 10 years after his stroke. How do you ignore the lack of spending for years? Firing the SB winning coach for a DB coach only to come back to him begging a decade later? One great thing about sports is that wins and losses don’t care about… Read more »

buccaneerNW

I don’t care about what Jemele Hill says about hypocrisy. But she’s been right in calling Trump a white supremacist. When you fail to vigorously condemn those torch-wielding fascist assclown white supremacists in Charlottesville, you condone it… which makes you a sympathizer, which effectively makes you a white supremacist.

Ed Glazer holding a fundraiser for Trump makes me hate this ownership family even more. Foueck these goddamn planet destroyers.

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cgmaster27

You mean like Obama failed to condemn black lives matters as they rolled over people and just generaly blew stuff up and robbed stors? Ahh the hypocrisy.

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buccaneerNW

Please identify instances where BLM “rolled over people and just generally blew stuff up and robbed stors [sic].” Because, as far as I know, that never actually happened and it’s another made up diversion to avoid dealing with the actual fascist assclown, racist, narcissist, lying sack of shit, pile of crap, ignoramus, clueless unhinged manbaby who currently resides in the WH. Get a fouecking clue dude.

You’re probably getting your news from InfoWars with that paragon of truth and virtue, Alex Jones.

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chetthevette

Good article Scott, right up until you started the political stuff. I am way over Trump and his band of pirates. Even though it’s hard to keep up when he keeps on making them walk the plank. As far as the Glazers throwing Trump a party, why the hell not? If some one gave me a huge ass tax break I throw him a party too. The Glazer’s and Trump have a lot in common. Dubious slum lords for fathers embolden with Daddies money. All great fortunes are usually accompanied by a great crime. At this point I feel quite… Read more »

BKNYfootballhead

Fab 4 is pure garbage. The ESPN article is pure garbage. Scott’s word is pure garbage.

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cgmaster27

And yet here you are soaking it all up like. I find it funny that people bitch about something they don’t have to read.

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flarick

Excellent piece on James and generally a real eye opener as to why the Bucs might pick him at #7, if “North Carolina State defensive end Bradley Chubb, Notre Dame guard Quenton Nelson or Penn State running back Saquon Barkley” are all off the board by then. The film reveals that nearly every thing written about Derwin James is true and he could very well combine with Justin Evans to form the basis for a very strong secondary. Watching the film, however, did reveal one concerning tendency. While James tackles well against the run game, squaring up, lowering his shoulder,… Read more »

Bucsfan1983

@Devasher No where did I say draft him based on his combine performance. You’re putting words into people’s mouths. I brought up the combined performance to show you that his burst from freshman year is finally back. That is all. You draft him based on his college career. You continue to blame not being 100% and not having that burst back during the 2017 season, as a reason to not draft him. And that is lazy. You say you are an FSU fan, well you damn know the talent he is. For whatever you just don’t like the pick, you… Read more »

Devasher

No, I continue to point to Derwin James lack of game changing plays, he’s not shown any history of turnovers compared to Mathieu, Taylor et al. And yes give me Quentin Nelson 7 days a week and twice on Sunday. Dude is a brawler. FSU has not been significantly altered either when Derwin James was on the field 10-3 (15), 6-6 (17, James didn’t play the bowl game), or when he missed the majority of the 10-3 (16) season. Shluldn’t his college career matter when trying to project a strong safety at pick 7? I’m a FSU fan. not a… Read more »

cgmaster27

Well you seem to be the only one who sees Derwin that way, literally., I’ll take my eyes and the eyes of the 100’s of scouts who would put him in the top ten over your eyes. And no those aren’t rose colored glasses, those are facts. And yet you still don’t mention James was the highest rated cover saftey last year. You keep skipping over that fact. He has more interceptions coming out than Jalen Ramsey did as a corner, but I”m assuming you probably thought Ramsey didn’t have the ball skills to play in the pros either right?… Read more »

Devasher

Someone needs to give you a statue of a strawman with your name on it cgmaster. If Derwin James is so clearly this top 5 player and generational SS (which one would need to be to be taken at 7) then why is he only being hyped up as a top 10 pick only after the combine? Why was FSU’s defense no worse for wear when they played the Independence Bowl without him, or 2016 without him? Number 1, Ramsey and James have the same amount of int’s and sacks at FSU (look it up), Ramsey was a consensus all-american… Read more »

drdneast

I don’t mind a political discussion with my sports, as long as it is germaine. In this case, I believe Cook was right to touch on the subject since the owners of the Bucs were attacked by this woman for being hypocrites. I certainly am no fan of Trump, quite the contrary. I believe he is leaving a terrible stain and smell in the White House which will take time to remove. Hopefully that will happen sooner than later if the Mueller Investigation can prove what many of us suspect. What the Hill article showed me proves the old adage,… Read more »

drdneast

Sorry about the few typos and misspellings in the above post but for some reason I can’t type on this page because it sticks or bogs down. Does this happen to anyone else of am I just getting picked on. After reading a few more posts though I had to continue on with the political roundtable. Back in the 70s I was in college when Watergate came out and came home every afternoon to watch the hearings. I actually voted for Nixon, my first vote in an election. but it became apparent to me after a period of time this… Read more »

Buc-n-Philly Fan

drdneast, I too have issues with the site. It cuts out and refreshes frequently. I appreciate your view point though I disagree politically. I voted for Trump because at the time I was tired of the same old politics and did not trust HC. It turns out Trump is unfit as Commnadet and Chief but do to his being in the position our Country will benefit due to none of us accepting corruption and same old politics from either side. Most of us reside some where in the middle with leanings swayed a little more right or left. I am… Read more »

skipper

Scott, not understanding why you want to get into politics on your sports forum. You enjoy trying to divide your readers? This should be a forum where right and left can come together to discuss football and forget about politics.

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scubog

Please stick to football!!!!! I’m just over all of this political crap with it’s completely biased viewpoints and total intolerance of opposing opinions.

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Will

The trenches were address during the free agency period. I’m going with James if Chubb or Berkeley is off the board.James is really going to help the secondary out ALOT!!!!! If we don’t get him remember I said this, we going to miss out on one of the best Safties that ever played the game.

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Devasher

You’re noles right and follow the team? Do you remember when Jacob Pugh called out the lack of leadership for the awful 2-5 start to the season right, specifically calling out players for looking forward to the draft? But Derwin James is a great leader? What am I missing here guys?

https://www.tomahawknation.com/florida-state-football-fsu-noles/2017/10/30/16573060/jacob-pugh-leadership-2017-team-compares-fsu-season-nightmare-cites-lack-of-player-leadership

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Bmore.Buc

Probably one of the best Fab’s I’ve read in a while, despite Fab 4. I believe Scott thoroughly missed the point Miss Hill was trying to make, but I don’t even want to get into that.

Plain ad simple, the closest thing I wanna see on my favorite Bucs site that has any resemblance to a political party, is NFC vs AFC

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herryjames

Last year, the rating was down due to some major mistakes. It is of the utmost priority of an employee to do what is ordered. Well, still we have to stick to the football instead of involving in the politics. But opinions are always welcome, as i loved to read different views. 🙂

https://www.americanseats.com/

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